They're 6-3.

And you keep putting words in people's mouths.

I never said they were good. But to call a 6-3 team bad is laughable.
- Powerslave

Not if you've watched the games.

So Mayfield is obviously at this point a total bust, correct?
- sbroads24

Mayfield has actually shown signs. Allen hasn't. Correct?

40 better quarterbacks


Holy hell

Mayfield has actually shown signs. Allen hasn't. Correct?
- Mentalorgasm5

Lol. What?

Mayfield has more turnovers than TD’s with one of the most talented offenses in football

It’s been 20 games so he’s (frank)ed. Just glad we’re on the same page here

Not if you've watched the games.
- Mentalorgasm5

Ok. Whatever you say. 😂

Mayfield has actually shown signs. Allen hasn't. Correct?
- Mentalorgasm5

He has? 😂😂😂

And he has Chubb, Landry, Beckham...

Agreed.

But if they do win these next two, they'll be, ahem, the absolute, unequivocally, straight out, flat out, downright WORST 8-3 team in the history of football.
- Powerslave

I don’t remember many 6-2 teams being under dogs to 2-6 teams.

Detroit's playxplay guy (the one who sounds ancient) is just terrible...

Ok. Whatever you say. 😂
- Powerslave

Oh, were the bills not bad in 2011 when they started 5-2 and then finished 6-10? A 6-3 start against with wins against every team at the bottom of the standings, definitely doesnt mean they are not bad.

I don’t remember many 6-2 teams being under dogs to 2-6 teams.
- Swedish_Jesus

I actually dont think it has ever happened before today. Was trying to find it out.

Why does this all seem to be put on Allen's shoulders. Does he need work (YES) can anybody tell me how many dropped passes have killed drives, how many penalties have wiped out 1st downs or big gains. Has Allen made mistakes and could have done things better( OF COURSE). They can move the football with Allen but to many times they have killed themselves with stupid mistakes. This is a team sport and there's 10 other guys on offense that need to take some blame for this offensive ineptitude.

I don’t remember many 6-2 teams being under dogs to 2-6 teams.
- Swedish_Jesus

It'S bEcAuSe ThE bIlLs ArE bAd

The Sabres could have Travis Konecny and Brock Boeser.

Instead they have Brandon Montour and three years of a drunk goalie

Why does this all seem to be put on Allen's shoulders. Does he need work (YES) can anybody tell me how many dropped passes have killed drives, how many penalties have wiped out 1st downs or big gains. Has Allen made mistakes and could have done things better( OF COURSE). They can move the football with Allen but to many times they have killed themselves with stupid mistakes. This is a team sport and there's 10 other guys on offense that need to take some blame for this offensive ineptitude.
- Buff36

Especially that goddamn Lee Smith and his penalties

He has? 😂😂😂

And he has Chubb, Landry, Beckham...
- Powerslave

Seriously, if you dont think mayfield has shown signs, you either dont watch football, dont watch anything beside the bill, or do not have an opinion on football that deserves any weight.

Why does this all seem to be put on Allen's shoulders. Does he need work (YES) can anybody tell me how many dropped passes have killed drives, how many penalties have wiped out 1st downs or big gains. Has Allen made mistakes and could have done things better( OF COURSE). They can move the football with Allen but to many times they have killed themselves with stupid mistakes. This is a team sport and there's 10 other guys on offense that need to take some blame for this offensive ineptitude.
- Buff36

because people are weird.

Oh, were the bills not bad in 2011 when they started 5-2 and then finished 6-10? A 6-3 start against with wins against every team at the bottom of the standings, definitely doesnt mean they are not bad.
- Mentalorgasm5

Again, your opinion, and they vary.

We'll see where they finish.

Why does this all seem to be put on Allen's shoulders. Does he need work (YES) can anybody tell me how many dropped passes have killed drives, how many penalties have wiped out 1st downs or big gains. Has Allen made mistakes and could have done things better( OF COURSE). They can move the football with Allen but to many times they have killed themselves with stupid mistakes. This is a team sport and there's 10 other guys on offense that need to take some blame for this offensive ineptitude.
- Buff36

Every team has drops. Why does everyone give 10 different excuses why its not Allen's fault?

The Sabres could have Travis Konecny and Brock Boeser.

Instead they have Brandon Montour and three years of a drunk goalie
- sbroads24

I have to find this funny, knowing that it really isn't.

Seriously, if you dont think mayfield has shown signs, you either dont watch football, dont watch anything beside the bill, or do not have an opinion on football that deserves any weight.
- Mentalorgasm5

He’s been worse than Allen in every statistical category this year dude. What are you even talking about

More turnovers
Less touchdowns
Less yards per attempt
More 3 and outs
Worse red zone %

Why does this all seem to be put on Allen's shoulders. Does he need work (YES) can anybody tell me how many dropped passes have killed drives, how many penalties have wiped out 1st downs or big gains. Has Allen made mistakes and could have done things better( OF COURSE). They can move the football with Allen but to many times they have killed themselves with stupid mistakes. This is a team sport and there's 10 other guys on offense that need to take some blame for this offensive ineptitude.
- Buff36

Daboll can definitely help with better play calling. Guy thinks he has Mahomes back there with all these empty sets. Even the patriots run the ball a ton with the best QB of all time.

The Sabres could have Travis Konecny and Brock Boeser.

Instead they have Brandon Montour and three years of a drunk goalie
- sbroads24

Tim Murray your services will be missed.

I do like Montour though.

Tim Murray your services will be missed.

I do like Montour though.
- Swedish_Jesus

I do too but he doesn’t compare to the players we should have

Again, your opinion, and they vary.

We'll see where they finish.
- Powerslave

No, they are facts and numbers. If the bills lose to the Broncos, they will not make the playoffs with one of, if not the easiest schedules in the modern football era.

But I'll let you be in your naivety

No, they are facts and numbers. If the bills lose to the Broncos, they will not make the playoffs with one of, if not the easiest schedules in the modern football era.

But I'll let you be in your naivety
- Mentalorgasm5

Yeah, but when comparing numbers, thow’em out the window if someone shows “signs”