your point is fine but the reference is cringe
- robz228

The reference is entirely appropriate. Gee, it's almost like that book was written specifically for situations like this. Maybe if you flag my comment you can get a moderator to take them down.

Bad-mouthing your boss at work is not the same as corporations controlling every public platform in the internet era, and deciding what is to be considered "right-think".
- SoCalPucks

No, they are the same. In both cases the employer found the activity to be out of bounds. Again, Cherry was warned about this. If he wanted to talk about that kind of stuff in that way he could go find another channel. He knew exactly what he was doing and he wasn't surprised. While I don't love that people get fired for this stuff I completely get why a guy that repeatedly makes very questionable comments about non-hockey topics on a hockey show was finally shown the door.

But, at the same time, though, they do have a right to terminate you for doing something that damages their brand, especially while you are working for them. If I'm a FedEx Delivery driver, and I slap a "Make America Great Again" bumper sticker on the truck I make deliveries in (or one for whoever the Democratic Candidate is going to be), FedEx has every right to fire me. Whether it's because they don't like my political stance, or they don't want to show one at all doesn't change this.

In your example with the NFL kneelers, these players are taking a stance while exhibiting the NFL's brand, and while working for them. It's the same thing. Do they have a right to do it? Yes. Is it a good idea? Not necessarily.
- buffalofan19

I agree to some extent. Problem is I don't see any "brand damage". They didn't wait to see if there were implications to what he said. They fired him because a twitter mob freaked the frank out. I don't think this is healthy for a Democracy. I believe that statements like his are what get people like blackface Trudeau elected. Sunlight remains the best disinfectant of bad ideas.

I agree to some extent. Problem is I don't see any "brand damage". They didn't wait to see if there were implications to what he said. They fired him because a twitter mob freaked the frank out. I don't think this is healthy for a Democracy. I believe that statements like his are what get people like blackface Trudeau elected. Sunlight remains the best disinfectant of bad ideas.
- SoCalPucks

You're absolutely right in the last line. I too loathe the mob mentality. I generally don't think people or (especially) comedians should be fired for things they say on their personal time. That's the difference here - he was on their time and had been asked to stop. That's on him.

I agree to some extent. Problem is I don't see any "brand damage". They didn't wait to see if there were implications to what he said. They fired him because a twitter mob freaked the frank out. I don't think this is healthy for a Democracy. I believe that statements like his are what get people like blackface Trudeau elected. Sunlight remains the best disinfectant of bad ideas.
- SoCalPucks

I don't agree with it either, but there's a big distinction between whether they "can" and whether they "should". They have every right to fire Don Cherry for whatever they want, and the public, or a certain percentage of the public, has every right to tell them they are stupid for doing so, and even boycotting if they feel strongly enough about it.

I agree to some extent. Problem is I don't see any "brand damage". They didn't wait to see if there were implications to what he said. They fired him because a twitter mob freaked the frank out. I don't think this is healthy for a Democracy. I believe that statements like his are what get people like blackface Trudeau elected. Sunlight remains the best disinfectant of bad ideas.
- SoCalPucks

Sportsnet isn't a democracy.

Sportsnet isn't a democracy.
- TheHank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8wudlqC5Y

I don't agree with it either, but there's a big distinction between whether they "can" and whether they "should". They have every right to fire Don Cherry for whatever they want, and the public, or a certain percentage of the public, has every right to tell them they are stupid for doing so, and even boycotting if they feel strongly enough about it.
- buffalofan19

Having corporations control every modern platform for public speech is a real problem. It opens the door for those with a mob mentality to justify violating the spirit of the First Amendment, (or just free speech if you're unlucky enough to live in a country where it's not written into your rights as an individual) if not it's actual wording. We may need to suck it up and hear some poop we don't like in order to preserve our own freedoms. I, for one, am not comfortable with the prospect of handing that power to corporations.

Having corporations control every modern platform for public speech is a real problem. It opens the door for those with a mob mentality to justify violating the spirit of the First Amendment, (or just free speech if you're unlucky enough to live in a country where it's not written into your rights as an individual) if not it's actual wording. We may need to suck it up and hear some poop we don't like in order to preserve our own freedoms. I, for one, am not comfortable with the prospect of handing that power to corporations.
- SoCalPucks

At the same time, though, corporations ultimately act with their bottom line. If doing things like this hurts that, they will stop real fast. Right now, there's a perception that Social Media reflects the opinion of the majority of the population, which is not necessarily the case.

But yeah we should have traded Risto in the summer the sabres trusted Casey once again and that was their downfall

He needs to be in the ahl
- gerbe75pts

On pace for 35 points. Average 3rd liner, increase from last season, playing with scrubs.
Yup, they should kill Skinner and Casey...promote Vesey to 1st line with Sobotka

You People killed the thread.

You People killed the thread.
- buffalofan19

Think it's time we wait for a new post from Pach.

That's the only way to save it.

Does Pach get a bonus for clicks?

You People are making him rich if so

Does Pach get a bonus for clicks?

You People are making him rich if so
- IonSabres

probably not in the comments

On pace for 35 points. Average 3rd liner, increase from last season, playing with scrubs.
Yup, they should kill Skinner and Casey...promote Vesey to 1st line with Sobotka
- IonSabres

You cant be serious with this response Are you seriously sticking up for Casey?

You cant be serious with this response Are you seriously sticking up for Casey?
- gerbe75pts

You People need to understand he's still young.

You People need to understand he's still young.
- buffalofan19

he cant even have a beer yet

You People killed the thread.
- buffalofan19

Don Cherry signs with foxnews

news at 11

he cant even have a beer yet
- hubie

I really wish Don Cherry made these comments in the preseason. "You People" would be a fantastic fantasy hockey team name.

do any of you people think the sabres will make the playoffs or are we destined to fall off the map and end up with the 3rd overall pick next spring..

do any of you people think the sabres will make the playoffs or are we destined to fall off the map and end up with the 3rd overall pick next spring..
- SabresFaninIndiana

If I had to bet.....

do any of you people think the sabres will make the playoffs or are we destined to fall off the map and end up with the 3rd overall pick next spring..
- SabresFaninIndiana

How many more nacho bars can Botts flip before he shakes up the core?

Management, coaching, goaltending and depth players have been swapped multiple times with the same result.

Fitz please let me know if something happens that it’s possible for things to change and it might occur.

How many more nacho bars can Botts flip before he shakes up the core?

Management, coaching, goaltending and depth players have been swapped multiple times with the same result.

Fitz please let me know if something happens that it’s possible for things to change and it might occur.
- washedup20

The coach is a nonfactor.

The theme of every sabres roster under TM and Botts is an overall lack of talent. We focus on strong players, or faster players, or younger players, or veterans, but the problem is bad players versus good players. It's really that stupidly simple.

There's nothing to overthink. They went into the the season with a top six that included only three actual top six forwards, with one converted third line winger to 2C, one AHL player, and Sobotka who might be the worst forward in hockey.

Their bottom six is equally full of question marks or dead weight players.

They are still relying on Risto to be a #1 D when this is the 7th year of him proving he isn't one.

They brought back two goaltenders who were both below average last year.

Where is the talent? Where is the reason to think they were good? It's all, well if Mitts makes a jump and if Dahlin makes a jump and if Olofsson gets 60pts and if Ullmark can take that step and if Krueger can work his magic...but that poop is true of every team in the league. Every team goes into a season with a bunch of potential, and some of it pans out and some doesn't. The bad teams bank on it. The talented teams don't need everything to go right to be okay.

The coach is a nonfactor.

The theme of every sabres roster under TM and Botts is an overall lack of talent. We focus on strong players, or faster players, or younger players, or veterans, but the problem is bad players versus good players. It's really that stupidly simple.

There's nothing to overthink. They went into the the season with a top six that included only three actual top six forwards, with one converted third line winger to 2C, one AHL player, and Sobotka who might be the worst forward in hockey.

Their bottom six is equally full of question marks or dead weight players.

They are still relying on Risto to be a #1 D when this is the 7th year of him proving he isn't one.

They brought back two goaltenders who were both below average last year.

Where is the talent? Where is the reason to think they were good? It's all, well if Mitts makes a jump and if Dahlin makes a jump and if Olofsson gets 60pts and if Ullmark can take that step and if Krueger can work his magic...but that poop is true of every team in the league. Every team goes into a season with a bunch of potential, and some of it pans out and some doesn't. The bad teams bank on it. The talented teams don't need everything to go right to be okay.
- matty12345

Nuke it:

You People need to understand he's still young.
- buffalofan19

And he needs to be the AHL I never said 7.5% was a bust if anything I'm disappointed he alked all this game and he's still the Same