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HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:28 PM ET
Imagine if he looked and pointed at the camera and said "we should all buy poppies"
- senstroll

Imagine losing your job because you said you instead of we or colored people instead of people of color.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
Settle down boomer. Isn’t it past your bedtime?
- Steven_Seagull


you gonna start with the anti-boomer stuff again?

I'd counter punch with a twitter parade - if I was actually impacted enough by it.

On a serious note... which Millenial doink are they suggesting is going replace Cherry?
It would have to be a millenial wouldn't it.. I mean - they couldn't by-pass entire generation and go younger could they?


TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
Imagine losing your job because you said you instead of we or colored people instead of people of color.
- HealthyScratch6


If I was sitting in a conference room and I pointed at someone and said "you people come here and..." and proceeded to go on a rant, I would expect that I would get fired.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
you gonna start with the anti-boomer stuff again?

I'd counter punch with a twitter parade - if I was actually impacted enough by it.

On a serious note... which Millenial doink are they suggesting is going replace Cherry?
It would have to be a millenial wouldn't it.. I mean - they couldn't by-pass entire generation and go younger could they?



- BorjeFan4Ever

ok boomer
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
Chris Pronger will be replacing Donald S. Cherry.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
Imagine losing your job because you said you instead of we or colored people instead of people of color.
- HealthyScratch6


our comments back to back really pulls the curtain back.

HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
If I was sitting in a conference room and I pointed at someone and said "you people come here and..." and proceeded to go on a rant, I would expect that I would get fired.
- TheMussel

If you were sitting in a conference room full of people of all different races and you said you people, refering to everyone in the room, would that be racist?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:33 PM ET
i hate all you people
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:34 PM ET
If you were sitting in a conference room full of people of all different races and you said you people, refering to everyone in the room, would that be racist?
- HealthyScratch6

You are being that guy.

"Oh but maybe just maybe Don Cherry didn't mean it that way"

"Ya never know"
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Nov 12 @ 12:36 PM ET
I understand that he was referring to immigrants and I also don't think there is anything wrong with the sentiments that immigrants should purchase poppies to support the troops. The fact is that immigrants are not a race. Canadian immigrants are made up of all different races. If anything it was a nationalist sentiment more than a racist sentiment. Racist or racism is just a trigger word. It's like referring to everyone who disagrees with you as a nazi. I've disagreed with Don Cherry alot over the years and thought he was well past his best before date. I just disagree that this was a racist diatribe. Maybe it's semantics but in a world of policing speech and thoughts I think it's an important distinction.
- HealthyScratch6


the word you're looking for is xenophobic, and it's no better than racism.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:37 PM ET
You are being that guy.

"Oh but maybe just maybe Don Cherry didn't mean it that way"

"Ya never know"

- Santo_44

I'm understand how he meant it and I think it's clear. I'm just arguing I think it's nationalist sentiment instead of a racist one. I'm against PC cancel culture where everything is considered racist.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Nov 12 @ 12:39 PM ET
You are being that guy.

"Oh but maybe just maybe Don Cherry didn't mean it that way"

"Ya never know"

- Santo_44


he 100% meant it that way. it wasn't just "you people" it was "you people come here". if he had been ripping on all Canadians not wearing a poppy, no issue there. i think it's a stupid thing to say but not really that controversial. singling out immigrants and giving a pass to white native-born Canadians like me is what made this such a poopty thing for him to do.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:40 PM ET
i hate all you people
- Tumbleweed


What else is new?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Don didn't say anything, "wrong"... All you people getting on him are just too sensitive...
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Don didn't say anything, "wrong"... All you people getting on him are just too sensitive...
- kaptaan

on a scale of 1-10 how triggered were you when you first heard he was fired
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
the word you're looking for is xenophobic, and it's no better than racism.
- DoubleDown


is having a distinct society within a larger society considered xenophobic?

or is that just wanting to grab more financial resources than the representative population warrants?

or more simply put, designating that group a special?
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
the word you're looking for is xenophobic, and it's no better than racism.
- DoubleDown

Nothing wrong with xenophobia
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
he 100% meant it that way. it wasn't just "you people" it was "you people come here". if he had been ripping on all Canadians not wearing a poppy, no issue there. i think it's a stupid thing to say but not really that controversial. singling out immigrants and giving a pass to white native-born Canadians like me is what made this such a poopty thing for him to do.
- DoubleDown

You're inferring this. I agree with you that Don Cherry is 100% xenophobic and a nationalist. He's shown it time and time again. He rips Russians swedes fins and Americans all the time but you're inferring that he's also racist.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
is having a distinct society within a larger society considered xenophobic?

or is that just wanting to grab more financial resources than the representative population warrants?

or more simply put, designating that group a special?

- BorjeFan4Ever

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
I know 20 people who have canceled there Rogers cable and or cell plan already over it. Not because what he said was right or wrong but because the timing of the firing. Sorry to say but its picking up traction and it might turn into a huge mistake on there part.
- Buck Norris

Doubt it.
Although they could have let him go today and not on remeberance day.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
you gonna start with the anti-boomer stuff again?

I'd counter punch with a twitter parade - if I was actually impacted enough by it.

On a serious note... which Millenial doink are they suggesting is going replace Cherry?
It would have to be a millenial wouldn't it.. I mean - they couldn't by-pass entire generation and go younger could they?



- BorjeFan4Ever



Maybe Cherry's replacement will be someone of colour, under the age of 35 and that identifies as non-gender?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it

- Symba007



daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
https://www.thebeaverton....fired-from-coachs-corner/
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:46 PM ET
If I was sitting in a conference room and I pointed at someone and said "you people come here and..." and proceeded to go on a rant, I would expect that I would get fired.
- TheMussel

Yuppers.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:47 PM ET

- Scabeh

a classic
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