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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Eklund: An American Hockey Writer's Thoughts on Don Cherry...Yours? Buzz@1
- Eklund

More like Gone Cherry amirite
countreeman28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.10.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
More like Gone Cherry amirite
- eichiefs9



He's one tart Cherry.
Donovan
Calgary Flames
Location: Princeton, ON
Joined: 09.20.2015

Nov 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
I have this feeling when the ratings drop ALOT he will be brought back because people don't watch HNIC for the leafs they watch coachs corner.

No matter what cherry said was wrong? Kinda....instead of you people he should have said the stupid Canadians who don't support the troops!!! That would have done it because IMO he is right 100%. Is he racist? I doubt it.

As for sportsnet they had to act on this as they are pressured by fans for sure.
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Nov 12 @ 11:45 AM ET
"You may not know this, but I have a policy with my writers to not write about politics on Hockeybuzz."

Have you informed James Tanner of this?!
dctill
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 02.18.2015

Nov 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
I don't really know about his past, but I don't see any way that what he said was wrong or divisive. People can put their interpretations into what the true meaning behind each word is but the actual statement is correct. People should respect those who died for their country, whether they were born in that country or have emigrated to that country. It's sad that we have so many people who could care less about those who have laid down their lives for the country they live in.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
I can tell by your previous comments that you are way to smart to believe that counts as a democracy. Sportsnet made a decision regarding their business, as they are entitled to. That is not the same as the voting public holding someone to account whether they complained or not, and you and I both know it.
- joel878


Exactly

People, please get over it. There are 12,433 more important topics.
Hey we just lost about 30% of our bird population in North America. That's one topic.

Cherry will be fine, he made millions of public money for entertainment and can easily find gigs or book projects or whatever.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
I grew up watching DC, always loved him...did I always agree with him....hell no! But lets not pretend this was the first time he said something controversial. Don has been walking on thin ice for years in the Coaches Corner segment and if you keep walking on thin ice, eventually you'll fall through. I'm pretty sure SN has been wanting to find a civil way of sending him off in the sunset for sometime now but was careful not wanting to rock the boat with some of the senior viewers of HNIC. Don is 85, nobody is going to change his mind now on how to think or what to say.
In this world we live in today, people are ultra sensitive and live and die by social media. Fake outrage has taken over and Don basically threw gas on a fire. If you're a public speaker nowadays or a TV/music star, you better watch what you say and how you say it because people are just looking for a reason to pull the "I'm offended card" and you'll end up getting lynch mobbed by social media.
I'll miss him and I think he was owed at least one more segment on Saturday night to deliver a proper goodbye. I definitely think he could've chose his words better on Saturday night but when Don speaks in the heat of the moment, things tend to go sideways. When his close friends chose to disagree with him, the writing was on the wall.
Copper n Blue
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Omicron Persei 8
Joined: 11.04.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
Only in Canada do we hold a sports commentator more accountable than our own Prime Minister.
- Pacificgem


I've heard this exact thing several times, and it's so close to making a point, but fails to do so. First, the two have nothing to do with one another. Second, he wasn't fired for the comments, he was fired for not apologizing for insensitive comments or even acknowledging that it was an issue. Third, he's been a hard line bigot and mysogynist for decades. This is not the worst thing he's said by a long shot, but people are finally fed up with it. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequence.
The bottom line is, just because you weren't offended doesn't mean other people weren't. We really need to get over this rhetoric of "people are too soft" mentality, and just think before you speak and realize there are other people.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
I've heard this exact thing several times, and it's so close to making a point, but fails to do so. First, the two have nothing to do with one another. Second, he wasn't fired for the comments, he was fired for not apologizing for insensitive comments or even acknowledging that it was an issue. Third, he's been a hard line bigot and mysogynist for decades. This is not the worst thing he's said by a long shot, but people are finally fed up with it. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequence.
The bottom line is, just because you weren't offended doesn't mean other people weren't. We really need to get over this rhetoric of "people are too soft" mentality, and just think before you speak and realize there are other people.

- Copper n Blue


Another excellent post. Well said sir.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
Immigration has always been ok in America. But many people love grouping illegal immigration right in with legal immigration.

I’m friends with two different families who came to this country from India the legal way which took several years including splitting their family up over the course of those years to get here and become productive, tax paying members of our society. They couldn’t have been happier with their decision.

What do you think they think of illegal immigration? Would their answer be “xenophobic”?

So I’ll ask what is the problem with immigration Ek?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
I don't really know about his past, but I don't see any way that what he said was wrong or divisive. People can put their interpretations into what the true meaning behind each word is but the actual statement is correct. People should respect those who died for their country, whether they were born in that country or have emigrated to that country. It's sad that we have so many people who could care less about those who have laid down their lives for the country they live in.
- dctill


See that implies that the only way to show respect is to wear a poppy, kind of like suggesting that if someone doesn't have a nativity scene with a fake Jesus on their lawn they hate Christmas.

To me it's a matter of shutting the (frank) up and minding your own business. If even 1/4 of humanity was capably of adhering to that policy in 2019 society would be more tolerable, Don would still have a job, and hockey wouldn't be about politics.

People need to stop being so quick to tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't do, and just bake their own (frank)in pies.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Immigration has always been ok in America. But many people love grouping illegal immigration right in with legal immigration.

I’m friends with two different families who came to this country from India the legal way which took several years including splitting their family up over the course of those years to get here and become productive, tax paying members of our society. They couldn’t have been happier with their decision.

What do you think they think of illegal immigration? Would their answer be “xenophobic”?

So I’ll ask what is the problem with immigration Ek?

- Just5


Ohhhhh boy....
manz3882
Season Ticket Holder
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
"You may not know this, but I have a policy with my writers to not write about politics on Hockeybuzz."

Have you informed James Tanner of this?!

- Hossa1881


Funny man, he had some veiled comments regarding the St. Louis Blues attending the ceremony at the White House...….
Liberalism is a mental disorder...….the struggle continues brother....
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
I have this feeling when the ratings drop ALOT he will be brought back because people don't watch HNIC for the leafs they watch coachs corner.

No matter what cherry said was wrong? Kinda....instead of you people he should have said the stupid Canadians who don't support the troops!!! That would have done it because IMO he is right 100%. Is he racist? I doubt it.

As for sportsnet they had to act on this as they are pressured by fans for sure.

- Donovan


I would argue they didn't have to. They were probably better off doing nothing, weathering the storm for 3 or 4 days until the Court of Public Opinion, and its 1st grade-level attention span, finds something new to get outraged about.

Chick-Fil-A wrote the book on this tactic, and it works beautifully.
Bren4Wings
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 08.17.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Being a Wings fan, I’ve watched Coaches Corner for decades (in MI you could pick up CBC/Coaches Corner back before there were dishes/internet etc). For decades I’ve heard Don Cherry state his opinions, including ALOT that went against the team I cheer for (between the Dead things, Russians, Swedes etc). I also remember week after week of him making time in Coaches Corner to show pictures of service men/women who had lost their lives fighting for Canada. I understood that Don Cherry was pro Canadian, fully supported those who were in the service, and loved hockey. It is who is he is and has been. Although I didn’t see this actual broadcast, I was not surprised to read what he said. His wording may have been “off” in some people’s opinion, but my belief is that he was once again standing up in support of the vets. It’s what he has done for decades.

manz3882
Season Ticket Holder
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Immigration has always been ok in America. But many people love grouping illegal immigration right in with legal immigration.

I’m friends with two different families who came to this country from India the legal way which took several years including splitting their family up over the course of those years to get here and become productive, tax paying members of our society. They couldn’t have been happier with their decision.

What do you think they think of illegal immigration? Would their answer be “xenophobic”?

So I’ll ask what is the problem with immigration Ek?

- Just5

toyster
Joined: 02.05.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
You need to be a canadian veteran to understand fully what is going on in Canada, a canadian veteran life is worth 375k for the canadian government, that same government that sends the soldiers to war, veterans are then forgotten. At the opposite you have a terrorist that killed an american sergeant, was convicted as a terrorists, Justin Trudeau awarded him a 10,5 million dollars in an out of court ruling, and he was made a national hero. That is what's going on in Canada, it isn't about racism, it is about justice, a justice for the ones that fight for our country, not against it.

Justin Trudeau and his cabinet is spending more money to help Isis Fighters coming back to Canada then they help their own soldiers coming back from Afghanistan. Then those Isis people call on racism to get what they want and try to change our laws to accomodate them
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Nov 12 @ 11:58 AM ET

Funny man, he had some veiled comments regarding the St. Louis Blues attending the ceremony at the White House...….
Liberalism is a mental disorder...….the struggle continues brother....

- manz3882

Because it drives conservatives crazy?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
I've heard this exact thing several times, and it's so close to making a point, but fails to do so. First, the two have nothing to do with one another. Second, he wasn't fired for the comments, he was fired for not apologizing for insensitive comments or even acknowledging that it was an issue. Third, he's been a hard line bigot and mysogynist for decades. This is not the worst thing he's said by a long shot, but people are finally fed up with it. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequence.
The bottom line is, just because you weren't offended doesn't mean other people weren't. We really need to get over this rhetoric of "people are too soft" mentality, and just think before you speak and realize there are other people.

- Copper n Blue

BINGO!
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
I wouldn't give Sportsnet too much credit for their "virtuosity" Ek. I've heard a rumor that Budweiser threatened to pull their advertising unless something of consequence happened. If true, then little brother Canada is more like the bad ol' USA than they want to believe. We don't do what we want to do, we do what we're paid to do.
manz3882
Season Ticket Holder
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
You need to be a canadian veteran to understand fully what is going on in Canada, a canadian veteran life is worth 375k for the canadian government, that same government that sends the soldiers to war, veterans are then forgotten. At the opposite you have a terrorist that killed an american sergeant, was convicted as a terrorists, Justin Trudeau awarded him a 10,5 million dollars in an out of court ruling, and he was made a national hero. That is what's going on in Canada, it isn't about racism, it is about justice, a justice for the ones that fight for our country, not against it.

Justin Trudeau and his cabinet is spending more money to help Isis Fighters coming back to Canada then they help their own soldiers coming back from Afghanistan. Then those Isis people call on racism to get what they want and try to change our laws to accomodate them

- toyster

So true. people forget...Or choose to selectively ignore it...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
You need to be a canadian veteran to understand fully what is going on in Canada, a canadian veteran life is worth 375k for the canadian government, that same government that sends the soldiers to war, veterans are then forgotten. At the opposite you have a terrorist that killed an american sergeant, was convicted as a terrorists, Justin Trudeau awarded him a 10,5 million dollars in an out of court ruling, and he was made a national hero. That is what's going on in Canada, it isn't about racism, it is about justice, a justice for the ones that fight for our country, not against it.

Justin Trudeau and his cabinet is spending more money to help Isis Fighters coming back to Canada then they help their own soldiers coming back from Afghanistan. Then those Isis people call on racism to get what they want and try to change our laws to accomodate them

- toyster
enough with those stupid lies, go back to rebel media with your friends and enjoy lying to each other.
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Nov 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
BINGO!
- Symba007

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
my biggest issue with this piece is you point to the U.S. as intolerant of Immigrants. the United States embraces immigrants. We have averaged well over 1 million LEGAL immigrants entering the United States for 10 years. (Canada is less than 300k). It's the Illegal immigration that is the issue in this country. Our southern boarder brings thousands of illegal immigrants. It also brings gangs, drugs, human trafficking, and crime.

don't confuse Immigration with Illegal immigration.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
Eklund: An American Hockey Writer's Thoughts on Don Cherry...Yours? Buzz@1
- Eklund




If the guy said "everybody", rather than "you guys", this whole thing would not have gone the way it did. That being said, every single person who enjoys their freedoms in this country, should dang-well display a poppy and support their troops who put their lives on the line. I can't understand why we play the pathetic leftist role of being offended. Good on Don for standing up for his Troops, and demanding that everybody who enjoys this country should show the respect that has been earned over much bloodshed.

That being said, I have thought the 84 year old was certainly starting to lose-it a touch. It was time for him to go, but Sportsnet should be ashamed of themselves for this leftist movement. Apparently words hurt enough to throw this legend out on the curb in the most disgusting fashion. Still have my old Rock'em Sock'em VHS tapes and they grew my love for the game since I was just a little boy. Can't wait to see the politically correct vanilla they throw in his place. Sportsnet is killing this amazing sport.
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