And what team is a red carpet for those situations?


- LordHumungous

San Francisco??

I get Green doesn't want to put too much pressure on him, but he does look good.
- VanHockeyGuy

I must be watching a different game then. He has looked decent at times and terrible at other times, overall, mediocre. Imo

I must be watching a different game then. He has looked decent at times and terrible at other times, overall, mediocre. Imo
- Reubenkincade

As long as TG has no (frank)ing idea what to do, the best plan is to put compatible skillsets together. Obviously, IMO, Bo is a 3rd liner. Kinda obvious when the only players he clicks with are also 3rd liners. Gaudette is capable of playing with top 6 guys without looking too out of place - especially with faceoff help like JTM would provide. There’s a trickledown to having that kind of depth... All of a sudden a 3rd line of Pearson Bo Virtanen might consistently click 5v5 because we’re spreading the opposition thinner.

As long as TG has no (frank)ing idea what to do, the best plan is to put compatible skillsets together. Obviously, IMO, Bo is a 3rd liner. Kinda obvious when the only players he clicks with are also 3rd liners. Gaudette is capable of playing with top 6 guys without looking too out of place - especially with faceoff help like JTM would provide. There’s a trickledown to having that kind of depth... All of a sudden a 3rd line of Pearson Bo Virtanen might consistently click 5v5 because we’re spreading the opposition thinner.
- DrChristianTroy

Didn't Bo click with JTM to start the season and Brock in his rookie season?
This team has 2 top 6 wingers and a bunch of 3rd and 4th line wingers.

Didn't Bo click with JTM to start the season and Brock in his rookie season?
This team has 2 top 6 wingers and a bunch of 3rd and 4th line wingers.
- Reubenkincade

If you want two of our best faceoff guys playing beside each other, ok... & I don’t know about “click”, JTM caught fire on the first line. Bo had 0 5v5 goals with him (and 0 5v5 goals without him), so what constitutes clicking? As for Brock, meh, sure. He’s been able to click with anyone really. All Star MVP. Da Beauty League MVP. He has broad compatibility & adapts offensively to whatever’s out there with him. That’s why I’m such a big fan despite how soft he is.

As long as TG has no (frank)ing idea what to do, the best plan is to put compatible skillsets together. Obviously, IMO, Bo is a 3rd liner. Kinda obvious when the only players he clicks with are also 3rd liners. Gaudette is capable of playing with top 6 guys without looking too out of place - especially with faceoff help like JTM would provide. There’s a trickledown to having that kind of depth... All of a sudden a 3rd line of Pearson Bo Virtanen might consistently click 5v5 because we’re spreading the opposition thinner.
- DrChristianTroy

So Leivo sticks with Petey. TG is a genius.

So Leivo sticks with Petey. TG is a genius.
- manvanfan

If Leivo is with that line long term, say goodbye to the idea of point per game Petey.

If Leivo is with that line long term, say goodbye to the idea of point per game Petey.
- DrChristianTroy

If Petey is that good, he will remain PPG. How many times has Crosby had 2 linemates worse than Boeser(and around Leivo's skill) and produced/helped them produce? I am not comparing him, but Brock and a 3rd wheel should work, just gotta find the proper 3rd wheel.

If Petey is that good, he will remain PPG. How many times has Crosby had 2 linemates worse than Boeser(and around Leivo's skill) and produced/helped them produce? I am not comparing him, but Brock and a 3rd wheel should work, just gotta find the proper 3rd wheel.
- Retinalz

Your keyed-upon first line led by 2 guys under 23yrs old can’t have a 3rd wheel who adds zero spacing or collaborative passing & expect to be ppg producers

For people who don’t understand the importance of spacing - it’s the REASON our top line has dominated possession & play with JTM. It also makes it more difficult to physically punish the weaklings on that line. Very important for Pettersson and Boeser to control play.

Your keyed-upon first line led by 2 guys under 23yrs old can’t have a 3rd wheel who adds zero spacing or collaborative passing & expect to be ppg producers

For people who don’t understand the importance of spacing - it’s the REASON our top line has dominated possession & play with JTM. It also makes it more difficult to physically punish the weaklings on that line. Very important for Pettersson and Boeser to control play.
- DrChristianTroy

If you read my post, I mentioned we need to find the RIGHT 3rd wheel, I never said that Leivo was it. I think it is a bad idea to have 1 power line. JTM on the 2nd line with Bo gives us 2 top 6 lines. Now we need to find the right LW for EP and the right LW/RW for Bo. Maybe try JV as the guy who chases the puck for EP and Brock and put Sven back with Bo?

If you read my post, I mentioned we need to find the RIGHT 3rd wheel, I never said that Leivo was it. I think it is a bad idea to have 1 power line. JTM on the 2nd line with Bo gives us 2 top 6 lines. Now we need to find the right LW for EP and the right LW/RW for Bo. Maybe try JV as the guy who chases the puck for EP and Brock and put Sven back with Bo?
- Retinalz

You need a high hockey IQ to be that 3rd wheel. Leivo, JV - no. It’s not about having a puck chaser... They need to be a cog in the machine.

Leivo is Brock without the hockey IQ for broad compatibility. That to me means he’s an AHL talent - I’d rather have MacEwen in his roster spot.

You need a high hockey IQ to be that 3rd wheel. Leivo, JV - no. It’s not about having a puck chaser... They need to be a cog in the machine.

Leivo is Brock without the hockey IQ for broad compatibility. That to me means he’s an AHL talent - I’d rather have MacEwen in his roster spot.
- DrChristianTroy

No offense, but this high hockey IQ phrase is in my opinion the most idiotic term used to describe a player, it is far to subjective and undefined.

No offense, but this high hockey IQ phrase is in my opinion the most idiotic term used to describe a player, it is far to subjective and undefined.
- Reubenkincade

Wow. TOTALLY disagree. It’s by far the most important attribute when comparing similarly skilled players. There are many players who can skate/shoot like Pettersson, but his hockey IQ separates him by (frank)ing light years.

Wow. TOTALLY disagree. It’s by far the most important attribute when comparing similarly skilled players. There are many players who can skate/shoot like Pettersson, but his hockey IQ separates him by (frank)ing light years.
- DrChristianTroy

This terminology isn't about Elias, it is more about how this phrase gets used. I have heard people use this phrase to describe some pretty bad hockey players, like Goldobin.
My way of thinking and someone else's way of thinking, when using this phrase can be totally different making it subjective.

So Ladd is on waivers and Kesler is out the entire season. Some fine contracts there.

This terminology isn't about Elias, it is more about how this phrase gets used. I have heard people use this phrase to describe some pretty bad hockey players, like Goldobin.
My way of thinking and someone else's way of thinking, when using this phrase can be totally different making it subjective.
- Reubenkincade

Just because Goldobin lacks other attributes doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a high hockey IQ. He has vision & is great at spacing, but makes too many “business decisions” (lazy, self-preservation driven apathy that’s detrimental to his team).

The term being subjective is what makes it the most important aspect of prospect analysis as far as I’m concerned. Every scout will have the exact same listed height, weight, drill results for a guy...

An out-on-a-limb example for me: Jamieson Rees (44th overall) is a better template prospect (middle 6 physical/sandpaper winger) than Podkolzin (10th overall) based on my perception of the very thing we’re discussing. I could be right, I could be wrong long term... But that doesn’t make it an idiotic phrase. Obviously NHL teams haven’t got it all figured out either.

Just because Goldobin lacks other attributes doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a high hockey IQ. He has vision & is great at spacing, but makes too many “business decisions” (lazy, self-preservation driven apathy that’s detrimental to his team).

The term being subjective is what makes it the most important aspect of prospect analysis as far as I’m concerned. Every scout will have the exact same listed height, weight, drill results for a guy...

An out-on-a-limb example for me: Jamieson Rees (44th overall) is a better template prospect (middle 6 physical/sandpaper winger) than Podkolzin (10th overall) based on my perception of the very thing we’re discussing. I could be right, I could be wrong long term... But that doesn’t make it an idiotic phrase. Obviously NHL teams haven’t got it all figured out either.
- DrChristianTroy

Fair enough. Maybe I just prefer the old school terminology like offensive skills, defensive awareness, forecheck backcheck etc.
If I were to use the term, high hockey IQ, for any players on the Canucks, it would be Elias and Chris Tanev.

Fair enough. Maybe I just prefer the old school terminology like offensive skills, defensive awareness, forecheck backcheck etc.
If I were to use the term, high hockey IQ, for any players on the Canucks, it would be Elias and Chris Tanev.
- Reubenkincade

Yeah, for me EP & QH are in the elite of elite hockey IQ guys. Broad compatibility calibre guys are Brock, TJM, Tanev.

Horvat hurt? Left ice with team medical personnel.

I liked what I saw (chemistry potential wise) from JTM & Sven. Bo was kind of lost between them, but those two clicked. I also think it’s dumb to have two of our best faceoff guys playing together just because Bo needs an offensive boost 5v5. JTM should either be back with Pettersson or playing with Gaudette to take draws when necessary. When Ferland’s back, I wouldn’t mind seeing him get another real shot on the top line. Since I believe Gaudette’s skillset ceiling is top 6/2C & he’s a more compatible option for top 6 linemates (taking JTM faceoff support into account), this would be my preference:

Ferland Pettersson Boeser
JTM Gaudette Baer
Pearson Bo Virtanen
Roussell Beagle Schaller
Press box: Leivo
- DrChristianTroy

... called 9/12 spots in todays morning skate. only 3 wrong were injured

... called 9/12 spots in todays morning skate. only 3 wrong were injured
- johnnykarate

Damn - I just heard Bo left practice? Would’ve loved to see how that middle 6 worked out.

Damn - I just heard Bo left practice? Would’ve loved to see how that middle 6 worked out.
- DrChristianTroy

- bloatedmosquito

Just because I don’t think Bo is a top 6 talent doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s capable of being the most important bottom 6 talent in the league. Championship 3C.

Damn - I just heard Bo left practice? Would’ve loved to see how that middle 6 worked out.
- DrChristianTroy

Way to go ffs. "Gaudette 2C"

Horvat hurt? Left ice with team medical personnel.
- VanHockeyGuy

Time for Miller to play center.