Poolman and Niku with be regulars next year. The Jets need Poolman's 875K salary for one more year along with Nikus next contract. BTW, Illegal curve is now also advocating Nikus' ascension to the bigs.

Morrisey - Pionk BTW, Pionk is a pleasant surprise IMOP cause everyone from the Rangers spoke about his defensive liability.
Heinola (next year for sure)

Kuli gone next year, Bealieau gone next year, Bitteto, Dahlstrom, all gone next year. Maybe Sbisa gets a contract next year.

Samberg next year (I heard he will sign) and New Dman? Who will it be but I think the Jets will try to land a big name D for next year (in replacement of Buf) and this core going forward would be awesome.
- CharlieDog

Looks good when you look at it this way, although a lot depends if Samberg (should he sign) is NHL ready. That is the big question mark.

Agree that the Jets will try and deal for a big name d man next year.

Then when you look at a possible d of:
Morrissey- Pionk
Niku - Mr X
Heinola-Poolman
Samberg/Sbisa

suddenly it looks much brighter. Poolman too is a a UFA after the 2020/21 season - I believe. Possibly Beaulieu instead of Sbisa? If the Jets feel Samberg is ready, then perhaps no deal for d-man, remembering that they can only protect three in Expansion Draft.

Any recent word on Buff?

Is Berdin a first or second year NHL player when he is not playing in the NHL?

Is Berdin a first or second year NHL player when he is not playing in the NHL?


- CharlieDog

On one site it says "NHL or AHL player." Berdin is now second year of AHL.

What I've read before it depends on their Entry Level contract. Believe that to be correct. Berdin will have used up all three years by end of next season, so would have to be protected.

Reading the rules seems quite confusing. Different rules on different sites that I go to.

What you are saying here is what I believe to be correct, although not sure.

Players exempt from selection, as I read it, are players only playing their first year of their entry draft right now, or less, like Vesalainen and Heinola. I believe that Berdin would have to be protected or risk losing him, unless a deal is struck with the Seattle Totems.

Possible Jet list:
G- Helle
D- Morrissey, Pionk, Niku
F - Scheifele, Wheeler, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Roslovic, Lowry

???
- grahamzky

Protected list looks about right. Though the jets could have an understanding with Lowry, since he will be ufa, so they could protect Copp instead.
It would also be interesting if Chevy will add a good dman this off season. That would bump Niku off the protected list.

Protected list looks about right. Though the jets could have an understanding with Lowry, since he will be ufa, so they could protect Copp instead.
It would also be interesting if Chevy will add a good dman this off season. That would bump Niku off the protected list.
- BWJumper

Yea, fully agree with what you are saying.

Kind of expect Lowry to re-sign before the draft, but would be nice, and,as you say, have an agreement to sign later and protect Copp.

Yes if quality d-man is added, would change the picture on d. May depend on how Sammy plays the rest of season which way the Jets go. Be great if he plays so well, we don't need to make a move.

Yea, fully agree with what you are saying.

Kind of expect Lowry to re-sign before the draft, but would be nice, and,as you say, have an agreement to sign later and protect Copp.

Yes if quality d-man is added, would change the picture on d. May depend on how Sammy plays the rest of season which way the Jets go. Be great if he plays so well, we don't need to make a move.
- grahamzky

If Buff ends up returning I doubt he gets protected in expansion- the threat of retirement and his age would be significant deterrent.

If Buff ends up returning I doubt he gets protected in expansion- the threat of retirement and his age would be significant deterrent.
- 2.0

His contract is done after next season as well. So, I can’t see the team wanting to resign him when he is contemplating retirement now. Plus, he turns 35 in March and would be 36 at the time of contract conclusion.

His contract is done after next season as well. So, I can’t see the team wanting to resign him when he is contemplating retirement now. Plus, he turns 35 in March and would be 36 at the time of contract conclusion.
- CharlieDog

Pretty sure it's either "one and done" or "none and done" for Buff.

Just wish we'd hear what the scoop is with him!

Why do some assume that Seattle would take Berdin (if available) ?

Surely there are other more qualified goalies that will be available to them.

Why do some assume that Seattle would take Berdin (if available) ?

Surely there are other more qualified goalies that will be available to them.
- bennythehat

Right now he would be the best player to take off the Jets. In the past year he has put up Hellebuyck numbers in the AHL, will be 23 at the expansion draft and under team control for 4 years.

Right now he would be the best player to take off the Jets. In the past year he has put up Hellebuyck numbers in the AHL, will be 23 at the expansion draft and under team control for 4 years.
- BWJumper

If he ends being as good as Hellebyuck or better, it would be interesting if the Jets decide to protect Berdin and expose Hellebyuck, leading to cap savings. Could be Gibbons/Andersen type situation, where the team lets go of the veteran to go with a rookie.

Pretty sure it's either "one and done" or "none and done" for Buff.

Just wish we'd hear what the scoop is with him!
- grahamzky

Byfuglien is finished. I was speaking to a guy who does fishing tournaments, in which Byfuglien participates. From this person's perspective, Byfuglien is enjoying himself too much to go back to hockey.

Yea, fully agree with what you are saying.

Kind of expect Lowry to re-sign before the draft, but would be nice, and,as you say, have an agreement to sign later and protect Copp.

Yes if quality d-man is added, would change the picture on d. May depend on how Sammy plays the rest of season which way the Jets go. Be great if he plays so well, we don't need to make a move.
- grahamzky

Why would anyone want to sign a 28 year old Adam Lowry? I think by that time if guys like Harkins and Seuss are not getting regular ice time, the GM should be fired. Lowry is like Trouba, overrated!

Why do some assume that Seattle would take Berdin (if available) ?

Surely there are other more qualified goalies that will be available to them.
- bennythehat

Vegas loaded up on goalies in their pick. They are going to need a starter, a back up and some depth. Berdin would fit the depth definition today but maybe a back up by then.

But, you are correct that there will most likely be a lot of goalies available.

Byfuglien is finished. I was speaking to a guy who does fishing tournaments, in which Byfuglien participates. From this person's perspective, Byfuglien is enjoying himself too much to go back to hockey.
- TheUltimateJet

I have inside info but the longer a guy like Buf is out, by the time he is ready to come back, he has not skated for a year. In todays NHL, can big old Buf keep up?

If he ends being as good as Hellebyuck or better, it would be interesting if the Jets decide to protect Berdin and expose Hellebyuck, leading to cap savings. Could be Gibbons/Andersen type situation, where the team lets go of the veteran to go with a rookie.
- TheUltimateJet

Well, that could happen I guess. I guess it might be too early for speculating on Berdin and the expansion draft at this point.

I like puck handling goalies, they always seem to be a bit more exciting and a bit more of a character, like Tim Thomas, Hextall, Brodeur, etc. Goalies are a bit special to begin with it seems then you add a little more character like Thomas with a dash of crazy, and makes for fun watching.

Does the puck handling goalie exude more confidence?

Why would anyone want to sign a 28 year old Adam Lowry? I think by that time if guys like Harkins and Seuss are not getting regular ice time, the GM should be fired. Lowry is like Trouba, overrated!
- TheUltimateJet

He's also a UFA if Tanev got 3.5 what is Lowry gonna get 6.5, His price point might be to high for the Jets to meet.

He's also a UFA if Tanev got 3.5 what is Lowry gonna get 6.5, His price point might be to high for the Jets to meet.
- BWJumper

Yea, it's certainly a good point.

Just guessing that Lowry takes less to sign than Tanev, maybe not. Certainly if his price tag is too high, the Jets may expose him. But points, or no points, he is a valuable player on our Jets.
Obviously some don't agree. lol

Can easily see that Berdin is selected by Seattle if he continues his present play. They will draft a veteran, a proven back-up and a youngster (likely Berdin if available).

How about those Jets, huh?

They all need to be fired, lol. Starting with the coach for mismanaging everyone, not bringing Niku up, then keep firing staff and mamagement for their mismanagement.

Yep, horrible mess. Only thing keeping them afloat is the goalie. Caoch definatley needs to be fired and the GM. Coach gives a good interviews so he needs to fired. The most losingest coach in the NHL, Sooner the better!

Why would anyone want to sign a 28 year old Adam Lowry? I think by that time if guys like Harkins and Seuss are not getting regular ice time, the GM should be fired. Lowry is like Trouba, overrated!
- TheUltimateJet

I agree. Lowry is a beast of a hitter, but his offensive skills are AHL level. The Rangers made a huge mistake buying our Shatts, and inking Trouba. Their combined cap hit for the rangers next season is over 14M!!!!! Then they add Panarin, but can no longer afford Zuccerello/Hayes/Vesey, and likely Kreider will go at the deadline. Major mismanagement there.

If Lowry/Perrault/Little are tradable, they would be cap well shed. Just imagine if this team was fortunate enought to have an offseason like Colarado. Burakovski/Doonskoi/Kadri were stellar secondary scoring additions totally 11.65M AAV. Same money, but much younger/faster/offensive talent.

How about those Jets, huh?

They all need to be fired, lol. Starting with the coach for mismanaging everyone, not bringing Niku up, then keep firing staff and mamagement for their mismanagement.

Yep, horrible mess. Only thing keeping them afloat is the goalie. Caoch definatley needs to be fired and the GM. Coach gives a good interviews so he needs to fired. The most losingest coach in the NHL, Sooner the better!
- CharlieDog

I agree we should fire Maurice. This Jets team is very reminiscent of the 2013-14 Avalanche that was coached by Roy. Insane goal tending led to that team winning the Central. Eventually the underlying numbers caught up with them and Roy is no longer the head coach. Last year Calgary was also playing above what they actually were and guess what, their underlying numbers are also catching up with them.

I agree. Lowry is a beast of a hitter, but his offensive skills are AHL level. The Rangers made a huge mistake buying our Shatts, and inking Trouba. Their combined cap hit for the rangers next season is over 14M!!!!! Then they add Panarin, but can no longer afford Zuccerello/Hayes/Vesey, and likely Kreider will go at the deadline. Major mismanagement there.

If Lowry/Perrault/Little are tradable, they would be cap well shed. Just imagine if this team was fortunate enought to have an offseason like Colarado. Burakovski/Doonskoi/Kadri were stellar secondary scoring additions totally 11.65M AAV. Same money, but much younger/faster/offensive talent.
- bikeguy99

Good post bikeguy99! I think the Jets should go after JG Pageau in Ottawa. He would be an ideal center for our 3rd line! Plus he's got that offensive upside that would allow the Jets to roll out 3 scoring lines.

Good post bikeguy99! I think the Jets should go after JG Pageau in Ottawa. He would be an ideal center for our 3rd line! Plus he's got that offensive upside that would allow the Jets to roll out 3 scoring lines.
- TheUltimateJet

Pageau could certainly help this team. My only concern would be if this is the 3rd season in a row where the jets ship out their 1st rd pick for a temporary 2/3C. If the Jets are looking like a lock for playoffs, maybe a 2nd for Pageau with it becoming a 1st only if they win the cup, or re-sign the kid. I would hate to see another 1st disappear for a player who plays 18 games.

I still remain adamant, that the depth at C can be addressed with Raslovic. The kid is a stud in all areas on the ice. He can skate, create space, and move the puck. Also, please ink this guy to an extension Chevy. Maybe a 5x5 extension? He is only going up in value. Looked great with Scheiffs and Ehlers last night.

Pageau could certainly help this team. My only concern would be if this is the 3rd season in a row where the jets ship out their 1st rd pick for a temporary 2/3C. If the Jets are looking like a lock for playoffs, maybe a 2nd for Pageau with it becoming a 1st only if they win the cup, or re-sign the kid. I would hate to see another 1st disappear for a player who plays 18 games.

I still remain adamant, that the depth at C can be addressed with Raslovic. The kid is a stud in all areas on the ice. He can skate, create space, and move the puck. Also, please ink this guy to an extension Chevy. Maybe a 5x5 extension? He is only going up in value. Looked great with Scheiffs and Ehlers last night.
- bikeguy99

Easy there bikeguy. Roslovic literally has 1 goal and point more than Copp. I don't think inking a guy to a 5 million a year contract is good value.

Maurice tipped his had a little regarding his thoughts on the play of Bitetto and Dahlstrom in his TSN1290 interview. Said something like 'getting two NHL calibre defensemen in the lineup has helped defensive play 5v5 and the PK'. The implication is that he also sees gaps in their games and he prefers the Beaulieu and Sbisa options.