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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:11 AM ET
Easily the most mind-blowing sentence on HB this year!!!

WTF has happened to ya???

- 21peter


Oh (frank) off




There, is that better?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:11 AM ET
John Tortorella only has a few weeks before he'll be available.
- AdamFrench


I'd rather see them go to a live call/tweet/message in format... with a moderator and perhaps a revolving cast of guests.

Not the talking head media doinks... rather an ex-GM(recent), an ex-coach(recent) or perhaps a couple of players.

let the fan base ask questions... "mostly" unfiltered...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:12 AM ET
I agree here totally. And esp on your last edit.

You get called a snowflake and poop like that, but its about time the ones who are sick of the poop stand up and put a stop to it or make your thoughts known instead of just ignoring the bigot or loud mouth.

- senstroll


Absolutely. IMO shrugging it off and not saying anything if it's not directly aimed at you is by far softer than slime (TM) than actually speaking out
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:16 AM ET
Oh (frank) off




There, is that better?

- lumlums


yes yes yes
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:20 AM ET
Leafs fans are mean these days Peter. Cold and mean and they will eat their own


- Aetherial

Indeed my friend.

Maybe this vid will cheer up those sad mother(frank)ers
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:20 AM ET
I have been going back and watching old Cherry clips, because for a long time I was cool with his shtick, until maybe 5 or so years ago maybe longer..the quality of his analysys really nose dive...But after watching the old clips, I think I was fine overlooking a lot of stuff because he wrapped everything in a pro-Canadian blanket.

But you can be pro Canadian and not put down others

- senstroll


absolutely... pro-Canadian and inclusive for sure.

for me personally, I think he began to lose it after/during the last strike/lockout time period (2013?)...

and has been (again for me) very incoherent at times recently.

I made a conscious choice to not watch CoachesCorner I believe during the 2018 playoffs... I was done based on Cherry's ridiculous ramblings about the Bruins and more so by MacLean "suddenly(then) deciding he wasn't going to talk about officiating anymore" ... because quite frankly there was no defense of that garbage.
but I digress.

there's no doubt plenty of examples of Cherry going too far in his commentary over the decades, but we can't equitably judge those things 20-30 years ago by the same interpretation of societal norms now... just as we can't condemn individuals for having a different view of racism or discrimination against women in the 60s than we have now... norms and what's acceptable and isn't have changed

for the same reason, we also have to cautious collectively that we aren't pushing the pendulum to far to fast... eventually it will swing back... normal ebb and flow

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:21 AM ET
Or OJ
- Atomic Wedgie

Youre right.
I need more vitamin C.

Where is that bell pepper?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:23 AM ET

yes yes yes

- 21peter


Well if you're happy then I'm automatically not. Bastard
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
absolutely... pro-Canadian and inclusive for sure.

for me personally, I think he began to lose it after/during the last strike/lockout time period (2013?)...

and has been (again for me) very incoherent at times recently.

I made a conscious choice to not watch CoachesCorner I believe during the 2018 playoffs... I was done based on Cherry's ridiculous ramblings about the Bruins and more so by MacLean "suddenly(then) deciding he wasn't going to talk about officiating anymore" ... because quite frankly there was no defense of that garbage.
but I digress.

there's no doubt plenty of examples of Cherry going too far in his commentary over the decades, but we can't equitably judge those things 20-30 years ago by the same interpretation of societal norms now... just as we can't condemn individuals for having a different view of racism or discrimination against women in the 60s than we have now... norms and what's acceptable and isn't have changed

for the same reason, we also have to cautious collectively that we aren't pushing the pendulum to far to fast... eventually it will swing back... normal ebb and flow

- BorjeFan4Ever

I didn’t make a conscious decision - I just lost interest.

I’m not comfortable with firing someone for making a mistake.

I am comfortable with removing Cherry before he further tarnishes his legacy.

Because that was coming.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
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Nov 15 @ 9:27 AM ET
Absolutely. IMO shrugging it off and not saying anything if it's not directly aimed at you is by far softer than slime (TM) than actually speaking out
- lumlums


I'm not clear hear... are you talking about "being called / labelled a snowflake" - and how that's a problem...
or talking about reacting to a real issue that raised?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:28 AM ET
Well if you're happy then I'm automatically not. Bastard
- lumlums

Just remember:
"Don't trust atoms, they make up everything."
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
I didn’t make a conscious decision - I just lost interest.

I’m not comfortable with firing someone for making a mistake.

I am comfortable with removing Cherry before he further tarnishes his legacy.

Because that was coming.

- Atomic Wedgie


definitely a case of the best before date having past...

that's where the networks have to own that they consistently made decision after decision to keep Cherry on the air ... for ratings.

it would great if they had the honest to say that they took him off for that same reason - and not because he offended someone (which he did)... but their decision was monetary for sure... otherwise, why would they bother to ask him apologize?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
Just remember:
"Don't trust atoms, they make up everything."

- 21peter



I hate you.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:33 AM ET
I hate you.
- Steven_Seagull

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:37 AM ET
I'm not clear hear... are you talking about "being called / labelled a snowflake" - and how that's a problem...
or talking about reacting to a real issue that raised?

- BorjeFan4Ever


A bit of both, but the latter is obviously much more important to address.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 15 @ 9:38 AM ET

- 21peter



oh hi
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Nov 15 @ 9:41 AM ET
Draisaitl with 5 assists.


McDavid+Draisaitl > Lemieux+Jagr

- Steven_Seagull


McDavid vrs. Lemieux thats a good argument.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:55 AM ET
Just remember:
"Don't trust atoms, they make up everything."

- 21peter

Lol
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
I have been going back and watching old Cherry clips, because for a long time I was cool with his shtick, until maybe 5 or so years ago maybe longer..the quality of his analysys really nose dive...But after watching the old clips, I think I was fine overlooking a lot of stuff because he wrapped everything in a pro-Canadian blanket.

But you can be pro Canadian and not put down others

- senstroll

"soft swede"

The guy would rip on Zaitzev every week...If Zaitzev was Canadian Cherry would of loved the way he played.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
McDavid vrs. Lemieux thats a good argument.
- sabreadvocate1


It's crazy how good McDavid/Draisaitl are..

I know at the beginning of the year Tippett said he would put them on separate lines to balance the scoring, but they are so good together.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
"soft swede"

The guy would rip on Zaitzev every week...If Zaitzev was Canadian Cherry would of loved the way he played.

- Santo_44

No.
Thats just bs.
No one loved the way he played.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
"soft swede"

The guy would rip on Zaitzev every week...If Zaitzev was Canadian Cherry would of loved the way he played.

- Santo_44


Do you recall when Don Cherry ripped the Leafs for trading Wendel Clark to Quebec for Sundin?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
It's crazy how good McDavid/Draisaitl are..

I know at the beginning of the year Tippett said he would put them on separate lines to balance the scoring, but they are so good together.

- PatC80

Draisaitl contract is looking pretty good now.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
No.
Thats just bs.
No one loved the way he played.

- Fakepartofme



Babcock did
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
Draisaitl contract is looking pretty good now.
- Fakepartofme



So is McDavid's contract.
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