Watched extended highlights of all 6 games of the 2010 SCF last night and several things stood out:

Toews and Kane were virtually invisible games 1-4, and our forward depth was on full display. Kane stepped it up big time for games 5 and 6(per usual)

Sharp and Hossa were beasts.

Bolland in his prime...REALLY miss it.

Ladd was incredible when he returned from injury.

Completely forgot that Carter and M. Richards were on that team. Phillys top 9 was almost as stacked as ours was.

Really wish we got that version of Timonen in 2015. He was great.

Buff was a monster on the PP and had a NASTY hit on Pronger in game 5. Seabs was also out there laying heavyweight blows whenever he had the chance. The Hawks combination of physicality and team speed was something to behold.
- SimpleJack

Coughed up the cash to go to game 5. I was in the upper balcony but that hit happened in our corner. Was so great. Buff just crushed Pronger. Up until that point in the series, Pronger was pretty much getting away with murder.

IIRC the Hawks put 3 on Philly in the first ten minutes and never looked back. Couldn't find anyone to buy the other ticket so took my Dad for his bday. Glad it worked out that way and great memory.

Well Boqvist is in opening line up ....started with Gilbert as pair

Down 2-0 the Icehogs have now tied the game late first period. Wedin (4) and Kurashaev (3) lit the lamp. Delia in goal Although Laakinen was recognized this week for strong performance in net

Gand Rapids is the opponent. Their team only within last week lost their popular video coach who passed during a road trip at team hotel, only 51. So perhaps Icehogs will face a team playing hard for the memory of their friend the video coach.
Update:;Highmore his (4).scoring change instead of Wedin

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

1. Change your system and improve things or we'll step in and change it ourselves (me: who?)
2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from [you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand, when they will or won't be playing (me: I'm assuming within the game?)

System was changed immediately to "do your thing/what you were doing last year" since it was implemented in a game without any interaction between coaches and players other than a morning skate before the Vancouver game.

Zawaski said that this kind of direct group dressing down and confrontation is not StanBo's style. (me: think all know whose style it is) Wonder if StanBo was also receiving any messages by default.

They posed the right questions on the podcast and to the source, who had no answers - what does this do to affect the players' relationship with the coach? Is all respect gone? Can he ever get them to change what they are doing? Kane was first to jump on the JC bandwagon - has JC lost him? the other vets? other players?

Have to say my respect for Seabs has dropped a little with this if it's true - his pride being hurt could have (maybe did) cause a major rift between the room and the coach. I didn't agree with how JC supposedly handled it, but c'mon, Seabs.

And, did Keith get his role back on the PP because of this? If so, UGH

Dysfunction Junction...what's your function?

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

1. Change your system and improve things or we'll step in and change it ourselves (me: who?)
2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from
- pdx2ord[you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand, when they will or won't be playing (me: I'm assuming within the game?)

System was changed immediately to "do your thing/what you were doing last year" since it was implemented in a game without any interaction between coaches and players other than a morning skate before the Vancouver game.

Zawaski said that this kind of direct group dressing down and confrontation is not StanBo's style. (me: think all know whose style it is) Wonder if StanBo was also receiving any messages by default.

They posed the right questions on the podcast and to the source, who had no answers - what does this do to affect the players' relationship with the coach? Is all respect gone? Can he ever get them to change what they are doing? Kane was first to jump on the JC bandwagon - has JC lost him? the other vets? other players?

Have to say my respect for Seabs has dropped a little with this if it's true - his pride being hurt could have (maybe did) cause a major rift between the room and the coach. I didn't agree with how JC supposedly handled it, but c'mon, Seabs.

And, did Keith get his role back on the PP because of this? If so, UGH

Dysfunction Junction...what's your function?

This will not end well for Colliton - or the team, I fear.

They have a coach running a system that isn’t his and that he presumably doesn’t want. Players now (and probably before Zawaski’s “scoop”) know that Colliton doesn’t have the complete confidence of the FO.

IF it’s true.

Lose respect for very accomplished veteran players who want communication from an unproven coach who had a failing system was letting it go down the crapper?

Thankfully someone had enough of this in the FO to light a fire under JC.


I guess my question is...why is JC blindly given the benefit of the doubt and "respect" vs multiple players who have won multiple championships- and were all leaders on those teams?

This will not end well for Colliton - or the team, I fear.

They have a coach running a system that isn’t his and that he presumably doesn’t want. Players now (and probably before Zawaski’s “scoop”) know that Colliton doesn’t have the complete confidence of the FO.

IF it’s true.
- StLBravesFan

Yes, big IF, but not surprising either. Plus, if you believe those who think Zawaski was/is a McD mouthpiece to put out these timely stories to show that the FO is listening to the fans and/or to prep fans for unpopular changes, this fits.

Mathews should shave off that moustache.

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

1. Change your system and improve things or we'll step in and change it ourselves (me: who?)
2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from
- pdx2ord[you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand, when they will or won't be playing (me: I'm assuming within the game?)

System was changed immediately to "do your thing/what you were doing last year" since it was implemented in a game without any interaction between coaches and players other than a morning skate before the Vancouver game.

Zawaski said that this kind of direct group dressing down and confrontation is not StanBo's style. (me: think all know whose style it is) Wonder if StanBo was also receiving any messages by default.

They posed the right questions on the podcast and to the source, who had no answers - what does this do to affect the players' relationship with the coach? Is all respect gone? Can he ever get them to change what they are doing? Kane was first to jump on the JC bandwagon - has JC lost him? the other vets? other players?

Have to say my respect for Seabs has dropped a little with this if it's true - his pride being hurt could have (maybe did) cause a major rift between the room and the coach. I didn't agree with how JC supposedly handled it, but c'mon, Seabs.

And, did Keith get his role back on the PP because of this? If so, UGH

Dysfunction Junction...what's your function?

Isn't Zawaski part of the media? Can't trust any of the, especially with McD writing the script.

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

1. Change your system and improve things or we'll step in and change it ourselves (me: who?)
2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from
- pdx2ord[you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand, when they will or won't be playing (me: I'm assuming within the game?)

System was changed immediately to "do your thing/what you were doing last year" since it was implemented in a game without any interaction between coaches and players other than a morning skate before the Vancouver game.

Zawaski said that this kind of direct group dressing down and confrontation is not StanBo's style. (me: think all know whose style it is) Wonder if StanBo was also receiving any messages by default.

They posed the right questions on the podcast and to the source, who had no answers - what does this do to affect the players' relationship with the coach? Is all respect gone? Can he ever get them to change what they are doing? Kane was first to jump on the JC bandwagon - has JC lost him? the other vets? other players?

Have to say my respect for Seabs has dropped a little with this if it's true - his pride being hurt could have (maybe did) cause a major rift between the room and the coach. I didn't agree with how JC supposedly handled it, but c'mon, Seabs.

And, did Keith get his role back on the PP because of this? If so, UGH

Dysfunction Junction...what's your function?

Isn't Zawaski part of the media? Can't trust any of the, especially with McD writing the script.

Yes, big IF, but not surprising either. Plus, if you believe those who think Zawaski was/is a McD mouthpiece to put out these timely stories to show that the FO is listening to the fans and/or to prep fans for unpopular changes, this fits.
- pdx2ord

Aside from Seabrook's comments during his benching, I wonder if any of the other vets went behind Colliton's back to speak with Stan or McD.

Lose respect for very accomplished veteran players who want communication from an unproven coach who had a failing system was letting it go down the crapper?

Thankfully someone had enough of this in the FO to light a fire under JC.


I guess my question is...why is JC blindly given the benefit of the doubt and "respect" vs multiple players who have won multiple championships- and were all leaders on those teams?
- PatShart

I said a little respect, yes, and mostly because of the way they (Seabs, Duncs, etc.) have chosen to air their sour grapes, questioning of coach with with the media first. I'd have no issue with them going straight to JC and dressing him down for a system that isn't working or for not communicating properly. They have earned that right and are the "As," after all.

Skins on wall or not, JC is currently the head coach. Actions like this undermine his authority with the rest of the team, possibly permanently. And, that will affect play on the ice. Some of the guys, the new guys in particular, seemed to be doing very well under the earlier system.

Isn't Zawaski part of the media? Can't trust any of the, especially with McD writing the script.
- powerenforcer

Yeah, but 2nd or 3rd tier media, I'd say. And, yeah, I commented earlier about those who believe that McD uses him to strategically get PR messaging (good and bad) out to the fans.

Aside from Seabrook's comments during his benching, I wonder if any of the other vets went behind Colliton's back to speak with Stan or McD.
- boilermaker100

From JC's own comments, it seems several of them at least spoke with someone. I had assumed him, directly, but now....hmmmmm?

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from
- pdx2ord[you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand,

Interesting. ........ Wasn't a big reason Colliton was hired was that he was an excellent communicator with players who are about his age? Only thing we know to be 1,000% true on this count is when Seabs opened up to the media about his being benched and that he claimed JC had not talked to him about it.

Sounds to me Seabs is Zawalski's source.

FWIW, Zawaski just dropped this "scoop" on his Madhouse podcast: https://podcasts.apple.co...080477414?i=1000456933180

Between the San Jose and Vancouver games, there was an ivory tower come-to-jesus meeting with Colliton, in which a collection of FO (and others?) told him:

1. Change your system and improve things or we'll step in and change it ourselves (me: who?)
2. Veterans are unhappy with lack of communication from
- pdx2ord[you] the Head Coach. they don't know if they are going to be in or out of the game, where they stand, when they will or won't be playing (me: I'm assuming within the game?)

System was changed immediately to "do your thing/what you were doing last year" since it was implemented in a game without any interaction between coaches and players other than a morning skate before the Vancouver game.

Zawaski said that this kind of direct group dressing down and confrontation is not StanBo's style. (me: think all know whose style it is) Wonder if StanBo was also receiving any messages by default.

They posed the right questions on the podcast and to the source, who had no answers - what does this do to affect the players' relationship with the coach? Is all respect gone? Can he ever get them to change what they are doing? Kane was first to jump on the JC bandwagon - has JC lost him? the other vets? other players?

Have to say my respect for Seabs has dropped a little with this if it's true - his pride being hurt could have (maybe did) cause a major rift between the room and the coach. I didn't agree with how JC supposedly handled it, but c'mon, Seabs.

And, did Keith get his role back on the PP because of this? If so, UGH

Dysfunction Junction...what's your function?

I dont believe it at all. Media likes to make up stories to get information. I mean is it really that hard to believe that a young coach can coach different approaches to see what works best for his team. If 7 plays like he did vs Philly i bet he will be a healthy scratch again. I would believe the story if it came out while he changed his style but it took a week or two then conveniently he makes up this story, i smell bull poop.

I mean if they approached him and did all this why would anyone in the org undermine JC I'd he did infact change his style to suit thre front office.

The only thing I'll add is no one knew who the Hawks were going to draft 3rd.

Yes, big IF, but not surprising either. Plus, if you believe those who think Zawaski was/is a McD mouthpiece to put out these timely stories to show that the FO is listening to the fans and/or to prep fans for unpopular changes, this fits.
- pdx2ord

I find it curious that IF McD wanted this made public, why would he do it now when the Hawks have been playing well since the Come to Jesus meeting.

Making this public only puts the spotlight on the locker room rift and not on the recent success. Why would McD air the dirty laundry in public?

I dont believe it at all. Media likes to make up stories to get information. I mean is it really that hard to believe that a young coach can coach different approaches to see what works best for his team. If 7 plays like he did vs Philly i bet he will be a healthy scratch again. I would believe the story if it came out while he changed his style but it took a week or two then conveniently he makes up this story, i smell bull poop.
- BetweenTheDots

Zawalski is no hack and generally thought to be fed scoop. He did not make this up as he'd lose all credibility with the organIzation and maybe even have his press pass pulled. ......... Now it could be that it's not 100% accurate and checked with a couple more sources for accuracy.

I find it curious that IF McD wanted this made public, why would he do it now when the Hawks have been playing well since the Come to Jesus meeting.

Making this public only puts the spotlight on the locker room rift and not on the recent success. Why would McD air the dirty laundry in public?
- boilermaker100

Well thought out, 100. At first glance this looks like Seabs feeding Zawalski his info. Seabs said as much himself in the media about the lack of communication surrounding his benching.

Tyler, looks like you have a topic for your next blog. Start hitting up your sources. LOL.

I find it curious that IF McD wanted this made public, why would he do it now when the Hawks have been playing well since the Come to Jesus meeting.

Making this public only puts the spotlight on the locker room rift and not on the recent success. Why would McD air the dirty laundry in public?
- boilermaker100

Very good question, though I could see him wanting to let the hardcore fans know, "hey, we saw there was a problem, we fixed it."

You guys may hear other insinuations or hints in what Zawaski said than I did.

Coughed up the cash to go to game 5. I was in the upper balcony but that hit happened in our corner. Was so great. Buff just crushed Pronger. Up until that point in the series, Pronger was pretty much getting away with murder.

IIRC the Hawks put 3 on Philly in the first ten minutes and never looked back. Couldn't find anyone to buy the other ticket so took my Dad for his bday. Glad it worked out that way and great memory.
- HawkintheD

Wow props on taking pops to that game, that’s one hell of a Bday celebration!! Bet you guys had a blast watching that one. And yes it was 3-0 right away and could have been more. Hawks were FLYING.

That’s great too that you had a nice look at that hit. What a moment. Buff was the man!!

Zawalski is no hack and generally thought to be fed scoop. He did not make this up as he'd lose all credibility with the organIzation and maybe even have his press pass pulled. ......... Now it could be that it's not 100% accurate and checked with a couple more sources for accuracy.
- Mr Ricochet

His press pass pulled yea right, i think he's making assumptions, if he's not and i were Rocky and it's true, Someone will be losing their job and it wouldn't be JC

Very good question, though I could see him wanting to let the hardcore fans know, "hey, we saw there was a problem, we fixed it."


You guys may hear other insinuations or hints in what Zawaski said than I did.
- pdx2ord

Yeah, but the recent play, albeit just for a few games, speaks for itself and the "leaked" message just puts Colliton and the players in a tough spot.

Anyway, leaked or not, the cat is out of the bag. JC has been thrown under the bus, and probably does not have respect in the room from the veteran group.

Of course maybe this is fake news and Stan and McD will deny this meeting ever took place. Time for a press conference to clear this up?

Yeah, but the recent play, albeit just for a few games, speaks for itself and the "leaked" message just puts Colliton and the players in a tough spot.

Anyway, leaked or not, the cat is out of the bag. JC has been thrown under the bus, and probably does not have respect in the room from the veteran group.

Of course maybe this is fake news and Stan and McD will deny this meeting ever took place. Time for a press conference to clear this up?
- boilermaker100

Why would someone in management do this if JC did what they wanted him to do? This makes no sense to me. Especially since they are on the winning street, unless you have someone in your organization who is trying to sabotage it.