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gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Nov 16 @ 5:13 PM ET
Dubas’ problem is he thinks he’s smarter than anyone else. Everyone in hockey says his team is flawed and he doubles down and goes the opposite way.

Yes he’s humble in press conference and all but his action says otherwise.

But sports is ultimately A result-driven business... if Leafs continues to struggle, first Babs’ then Dubas’ turn to go.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:14 PM ET
Dubas’ problem is he thinks he’s smarter than anyone else. Everyone in hockey says his team is flawed and he doubles down and goes the opposite way.

Yes he’s humble in press conference and all but his action says otherwise.

But sports is ultimately A result-driven business... if Leafs continues to struggle, first Babs then Dubas’s turn to go.

- gamerdoc



Nope. That’s a Max created narrative.


You bought his anti-Dubas propaganda.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:15 PM ET
5-2 Marlies.
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Nov 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
Nope. That’s a Max created narrative.
- Steven_Seagull


As I said, the result speaks louder than anyone’s feeling. Time will tell who was right.

Many teams do turn around after Christmas so hopefully that’s the case but leafs just looks way too small, too soft and no grits whatsoever at this point.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
5-2 Marlies.
- GreatGigInTheSky



Liljegren injured?
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:19 PM ET
Ah, leaf fans..... Maybe one day you’ll learn a thing or two about hockey.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
Ah, leaf fans..... Maybe one day you’ll learn a thing or two about hockey.
- RedRevenge



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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
Liljegren injured?
- Steven_Seagull


Yeah. About a week ago he got hit in the head and kneed on the same hit.

To literally no ones surprise, there was no penalty called.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
6-2 Marlies.

Agostino hattrick.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:23 PM ET
7-2 Marlies.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yeah. About a week ago he got hit in the head and kneed on the same hit.

To literally no ones surprise, there was no penalty called.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Damn. Kid can’t catch a break.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:25 PM ET
7-2 Marlies.
- GreatGigInTheSky



Keefe
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:25 PM ET
They pulled the goalie after they pulled the first goalie.
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Nov 16 @ 5:27 PM ET
A hypothetical question:

Who could we get if we trade Marner?

I know it will never happen under Dubas, as it would mean admitting to his mistake but just curious what other teams are willing to give up for him. At this point, my guess is not much, as his cap hit is just too high.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
Damn. Kid can’t catch a break.
- Steven_Seagull


https://twitter.com/FOX17...tatus/1193349322278088705

Dirty poop.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:29 PM ET
A hypothetical question:

Who could we get if we trade Marner?

I know it will never happen under Dubas, as it would mean admitting to his mistake but just curious what other teams are willing to give up for him. At this point, my guess is not much, as his cap hit is just too high.

- gamerdoc



ok Max
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Nov 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
ok Max
- Steven_Seagull


As in, you think we are getting a good value for him? Lots of analytic guys say he was performing at top 25 percentile among all NHL wingers before he got hurt. A great performance for a $11M guy eh?
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
5-2 Marlies.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Wonder what Keefe's win loss record is since he took over. Seems they do well every year
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
ok Max
- Steven_Seagull

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
A hypothetical question:

Who could we get if we trade Marner?

I know it will never happen under Dubas, as it would mean admitting to his mistake but just curious what other teams are willing to give up for him. At this point, my guess is not much, as his cap hit is just too high.

- gamerdoc


It's hard to say but he makes around Kane money. Would Kane be impossible to trade?

Trade Nylander now that he's producing for a stay at home d man.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
It's hard to say but he makes around Kane money. Would Kane be impossible to trade?

Trade Nylander now that he's producing for a stay at home d man.

- aminnes



Like who?
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Nov 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
It's hard to say but he makes around Kane money. Would Kane be impossible to trade?

Trade Nylander now that he's producing for a stay at home d man.

- aminnes


Isn’t Kane way better than Marner though? A proven winner, can drive a line on his own unlike Marner etc. Marner has his age going for him but that’s it at this point? He just overvalued by about $3M.

I mean if a team is going for it right now, who would they want? Kane or Marner?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:38 PM ET
8-2 Marlies.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
Bill Ny- 8 goals 9 assists 15.4 shooting %

Roope Hintz- 9 goals 2 assists 27.3 shooting %

Which of the twos shooting % seems more sustainable?

Figured I'd post this since it's been a while since Max did.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
It's hard to say but he makes around Kane money. Would Kane be impossible to trade?

Trade Nylander now that he's producing for a stay at home d man.

- aminnes


I think honestly IF and that is a big IF there.... but IF we were to move one of the top end talent for a top end defenceman, the odd man out there is going to be Nylander. Matthews and Marner are the big two, they are not going anywhere. Nylander is the one I think that likely goes.

Right now would just be nice if we could get totally healthy and gel here and really see who they are.

Don't think it is one thing, coach, GM, injuries, schedule, but rather a whole lot of factors here and every time we screw up despite playing well, it winds up in the back of our net here.

I am dreading this game tonight here cause have a feeling it is gonna be that game of the year we all just turn the channel to something else and want to forget about.
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