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buster29
New York Islanders
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 17 @ 2:32 AM ET
The one guy that did say it also said the Islanders would end up in last place in the league well below everyone else. Ummm...
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Nov 17 @ 2:49 AM ET
It’s not the coach it’s the GM. The coach can’t make chicken soup out of chicken s#/+.
Doogie Dubas blew it by signing the unprovens to mega contracts and traded or let walk away their true leaders.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Nov 17 @ 5:33 AM ET
The Leafs are a collection of talented hockey players. However there are too many players who are unable or unwilling to pay a physical price to make plays. It’s over before it even began
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 17 @ 7:41 AM ET
Babcock loosing the room would not surprise me in the slightest.
His "I'M bigger than the game" attitude which he garnered from Hockey Canada's treating him like the second coming, will wear thin. And his willingness to reward role players for playing their role and then excuse them when they get over extended while slamming his stars is pretty well known from his time in Detroit.

And really, if he can't get more out of this talent, he is not the coach people like to paint him to be.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 17 @ 7:44 AM ET
It’s not the coach it’s the GM. The coach can’t make chicken soup out of chicken s#/+.
Doogie Dubas blew it by signing the unprovens to mega contracts and traded or let walk away their true leaders.

- Camel



I guess we're just a Ron Hainsey away from competing then eh?
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Nov 17 @ 7:51 AM ET
This is ALL about Matthews and I will go so far as to say that this player will not win a championship throughout his entire career.

To point the finger at one of the most successful coaches in history is ludicrous! Babcock's best quality is not even his coaching abilities ON the ice, it's everything he does OFF the ice with his players. He turns boys into men, men into better men. He mikes your life better, makes your family stronger...it's not Babcock whatsoever.

I would give up on Austin Matthews loooooong before giving up on Babs. (and you know what? even though Matthews has obviously checked out on Babcock and his tough love, "like at yourself in the mirror" surmons, Babcock will still never give up on Matthews...as a player or as a person).

and even though Matthews is a prima donna, it's still unfair to him to put all of the pressure on him that the Leafs media has. Comparing him to Draisaitl, Marner, etc.....that doesn't help either.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Nov 17 @ 8:13 AM ET
This is ALL about Matthews and I will go so far as to say that this player will not win a championship throughout his entire career.

To point the finger at one of the most successful coaches in history is ludicrous! Babcock's best quality is not even his coaching abilities ON the ice, it's everything he does OFF the ice with his players. He turns boys into men, men into better men. He mikes your life better, makes your family stronger...it's not Babcock whatsoever.

I would give up on Austin Matthews loooooong before giving up on Babs. (and you know what? even though Matthews has obviously checked out on Babcock and his tough love, "like at yourself in the mirror" surmons, Babcock will still never give up on Matthews...as a player or as a person).

and even though Matthews is a prima donna, it's still unfair to him to put all of the pressure on him that the Leafs media has. Comparing him to Draisaitl, Marner, etc.....that doesn't help either.

- JLO961


Geezus.

Yep, let's blame this all on the cornerstone franchise centre playing at a ppg pace this year.

Babcock isn't to blame, Dubas isn't to blame, the players aren't to blame. It's all of them collectively. Do changes need to be made? Sure.

Did Oilers fans blame McJesus and Dr. Drain for last year's mess of a season?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 17 @ 8:38 AM ET
Dubas set the tone for this but getting walked over by the players and has constructed this roster poorly... Babcock has lost the room and seems incapable of coaching the players he has been given..

I think Shanny should pull the plug on both call this season a wash and get ready for next.

- Azuredoom


how can I give this a thousand
Geddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 11.17.2019

Nov 17 @ 8:46 AM ET
Donless cherry for coach
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 17 @ 9:07 AM ET
Pajama's for everyone !!! How is that move working out for you. Let me tell you 9-9-4 for 19th overall in league. Dubas is genius !!!
jlaw
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 06.25.2018

Nov 17 @ 10:04 AM ET
Babcock's time was up after game six of the first round last year .
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
At risk of eating my words, the early season small sample size sure indicates the Sabres won the Babcock sweepstakes after all....to be clear I’m sure he’ll turn things around and all this really shows is that he’s flawed like most coaches, but also that he’s probably not worth that contract.
wrister
Joined: 12.28.2011

Nov 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
You could interchange the title of Babcock with Laviolette.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Nov 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Please fire Babs. NJ is in desperate need of a real coach
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
This is ALL about Matthews and I will go so far as to say that this player will not win a championship throughout his entire career.

To point the finger at one of the most successful coaches in history is ludicrous! Babcock's best quality is not even his coaching abilities ON the ice, it's everything he does OFF the ice with his players. He turns boys into men, men into better men. He mikes your life better, makes your family stronger...it's not Babcock whatsoever.

I would give up on Austin Matthews loooooong before giving up on Babs. (and you know what? even though Matthews has obviously checked out on Babcock and his tough love, "like at yourself in the mirror" surmons, Babcock will still never give up on Matthews...as a player or as a person).

and even though Matthews is a prima donna, it's still unfair to him to put all of the pressure on him that the Leafs media has. Comparing him to Draisaitl, Marner, etc.....that doesn't help either.

- JLO961

May be the most overrated coach in history.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Nov 17 @ 11:27 AM ET
This is ALL about Matthews and I will go so far as to say that this player will not win a championship throughout his entire career.

To point the finger at one of the most successful coaches in history is ludicrous! Babcock's best quality is not even his coaching abilities ON the ice, it's everything he does OFF the ice with his players. He turns boys into men, men into better men. He mikes your life better, makes your family stronger...it's not Babcock whatsoever.

I would give up on Austin Matthews loooooong before giving up on Babs. (and you know what? even though Matthews has obviously checked out on Babcock and his tough love, "like at yourself in the mirror" surmons, Babcock will still never give up on Matthews...as a player or as a person).

and even though Matthews is a prima donna, it's still unfair to him to put all of the pressure on him that the Leafs media has. Comparing him to Draisaitl, Marner, etc.....that doesn't help either.

- JLO961

Wow. This is some pretty dumb shït. Even for you, J-Lo.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Nov 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
May be the most overrated coach in history.
- Landsbergfan

One of them, yep.
j_eng
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.18.2011

Nov 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
Pajama's for everyone !!! How is that move working out for you. Let me tell you 9-9-4 for 19th overall in league. Dubas is genius !!!
- Nfdbulldawg

It's been 2 years. You were sad, but it's ok. You can let it go.
DrunkFan
Joined: 02.26.2018

Nov 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Babs WILL NOT make it back from this road trip as coach of the leafs. Keafe will be named coach and Gilmour will take over as the Marlies bench boss. You heard it here first(insider from Toronto). Breaking the news first so EK can’t take the credit.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Nov 17 @ 12:28 PM ET
Please fire Babs. NJ is in desperate need of a real coach
- Crushers68


If you have a team full of pluggers who normally wouldn't make the playoffs, and want a coach who'll get you there, he's the guy for you.

If you have a highly talented team, and want a coach who will stifle that talent with a system that designed for pluggers, he's also the guy for you.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 17 @ 12:54 PM ET
Lubeass took a very promising young team and crippled it on and off the ice.
Nerds with stats don’t win NHL hockey games.

- DrunkenCanuck

Coyotes are currently ahead of your beloved Canucks.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Nov 17 @ 12:54 PM ET
Tavares is not a winning player. He’s the Carmelo Anthony of hockey.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 17 @ 12:55 PM ET
It’s not the coach it’s the GM. The coach can’t make chicken soup out of chicken s#/+.
Doogie Dubas blew it by signing the unprovens to mega contracts and traded or let walk away their true leaders.

- Camel

Coaching obviously can make a huge difference or did you miss the Blues worst to Cup run last season?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 17 @ 12:55 PM ET
Tavares is not a winning player. He’s the Carmelo Anthony of hockey.
- BringNYIhome

Checks poster's favourite team, confirms it's the Isles.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
Coyotes are currently ahead of your beloved Canucks.
- mjones242

That’s nice for the Coyotes, but has nothing to do wth Babcock being the most overrated coach in the NHL.
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