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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
I hate the idea Lou would be so much better in contracts. He's been horriblel for years with contracts. The islanders right now easily have a worse cap situation than the Leafs.

While Lou may have saved $ on the big names, he would have signed a 4th line for 13 million with contracts you can't trade while doing so. Dubas would have been destroyed giving a washed-up 33 year-old 4 years at 3 million per on the 4th line (Komorov).

- RogerRoeper

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:10 PM ET

- Cptmjl


They still have a bad cap situation and won 1 single more playoff game than those supposed pathetic Leafs against easier competition.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
Will you change your tune if this team starts winning with a new coach?
- mykokes


This idea this team is terrible and can't win with any coach is hilarious.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
This Leafs team has had to deal with injuries to front line players. Depth is no longer their strength and playing .500 till Marner gets back might be the best they can hope for. A strong 2nd half might get them the second wild card spot and then who knows once the playoffs start
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
They still have a bad cap situation and won 1 single more playoff game than those supposed pathetic Leafs against easier competition.
- RogerRoeper

But the islanders suck and the leafs are going to win the cup. Remember telling everyone that on our thread?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
But the islanders suck and the leafs are going to win the cup. Remember telling everyone that on our thread?
- Cptmjl


Leafs are a major cup contender. All they need is a new coach.

I did say that. As of now I am 100% wrong. Let's see. Remember when I picked the Blues to win the cup last year?

Toronto over Dallas. I stick to it.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Nov 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
But the islanders suck and the leafs are going to win the cup. Remember telling everyone that on our thread?
- Cptmjl

Who says the islanders suck?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
Who says the islanders suck?
- mykokes


I predicted they would although he's pretending I was the only one. They were the consensus to regress the most.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
FIRST!!!











any habs rumours?!?










nuff said
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
I predicted they would although he's pretending I was the only one. They were the consensus to regress the most.
- RogerRoeper

I like that Roger. Few come clean on here
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
Leafs are a major cup contender. All they need is a new coach.

I did say that. As of now I am 100% wrong. Let's see. Remember when I picked the Blues to win the cup last year?

Toronto over Dallas. I stick to it.

- RogerRoeper

No I don’t and the Leafs suck. It’s deeper than their coach. They’re soft and have a crap defense firing Babcock won’t change that.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Nov 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
I predicted they would although he's pretending I was the only one. They were the consensus to regress the most.
- RogerRoeper

I thought losing lehner would hurt them. But greiss has continued ro be great. Varlamov will always be questionable for me. But they play a great team game.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Who says the islanders suck?
- mykokes

That clown pretty much daily along with assorted other Leafs posters that visited our thread constantly after Tavares left. Tanner is still keeping up that losing battle as well😂
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
No I don’t and the Leafs suck. It’s deeper than their coach. They’re soft and have a crap defense firing Babcock won’t change that.
- Cptmjl

And yet how has trotz done in ny? How can you say a coach has no impact?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Leafs are a major cup contender. All they need is a new coach.

I did say that. As of now I am 100% wrong. Let's see. Remember when I picked the Blues to win the cup last year?

Toronto over Dallas. I stick to it.

- RogerRoeper

In what world?
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
So Sabres won the Babcock sweepstakes by hiring Dan Bysma and Phil Housley instead? Those were better moves? Sabres are on their 3rd coach since Babcock was hired by the Leafs. It's been a disaster in Buffalo. Going on their 9th year with no playoffs.
- RogerRoeper



This.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
I predicted they would although he's pretending I was the only one. They were the consensus to regress the most.
- RogerRoeper

Consensus between you and Tanner?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
No I don’t and the Leafs suck. It’s deeper than their coach. They’re soft and have a crap defense firing Babcock won’t change that.
- Cptmjl


Do the Islanders have a great D? No. But they are very well coached.

Leafs can easily be a contender with a new coach. The talent is there already. The issue is they have a coach not playing the best lineup and a system which makes zero sense.

Firing Babcock makes a massive difference.

uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

Nov 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
And yet how has trotz done in ny? How can you say a coach has no impact?
- mykokes


Tanner says coaching is overrated. The difference between the best and worst coach in the NHL might be just a few wins over an 82-game season.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Consensus between you and Tanner?
- Cptmjl



TSN and Sportsnet. Do research. Many thought they'd regress and you can see why.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
And yet how has trotz done in ny? How can you say a coach has no impact?
- mykokes

Coach has a ton of impact but we also had Toews, Pulock, Pelech, and Leddy in place when he took over. You need the horses on the back end the Leafs defense is let’s say limited. They’re also soft.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
In what world?
- Cptmjl


They are this years Blues. Just wait till he gets fired.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Coach has a ton of impact but we also had Toews, Pulock, Pelech, and Leddy in place when he took over. You need the horses on the back end the Leafs defense is let’s say limited. They’re also soft.
- Cptmjl


You honestly think those D are better than what the Leafs have right now?
Iago
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 08.02.2018

Nov 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Babs does have shortcomings that we saw in his time here in Detroit. He is egotistical, and can get tunnel vision on players - good and bad. I won't get into details, but some of the roster / salary cap problems here were Babs' doing. Having said that, Shanny owns the problem in TO. His GM and coach want to do things totally different ways, and are definitely not on the same page. I will say that Babs is more likely right than Dubas. He has won everything, and knows how is needs to happen, and it won't with the roster he was dealt there. Dubas, on the other hand, has won nothing, and has yet to learn that stats and metrics don't necessarily win hockey games - people do. Toronto had a sub standard defense last season, and I am in awe of Dubas ability to make it worse - the players they added aren't known for their own zone defense and ability to keep the puck out of their own net, and that is what the TML's really needed. It will be interesting to see what Shanny's next move will be.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Do the Islanders have a great D? No. But they are very well coached.

Leafs can easily be a contender with a new coach. The talent is there already. The issue is they have a coach not playing the best lineup and a system which makes zero sense.

Firing Babcock makes a massive difference.

- RogerRoeper

Says you. Are you saying Pulock, Toews, Pelech, and Leddy are not good defenders?👍
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