Ugh are we still talking about the Leafs...

Enough is enough, the NHL needs to create a new cup called the Rupert Cup and just present it to the Leafs every time they win a game. Maybe hand out some ribbons to each player for participation. Even Coyote fans are shaking their heads.
- Glak18

This guy gets it.
You built a team that's highly skilled and scared poopless to get in dirty areas. You had grit and you traded him.

This guy gets it.
You built a team that's highly skilled and scared poopless to get in dirty areas. You had grit and you traded him.
- Thornton22

More like your coach is given an incredibly talented team and he make them play like they are the 2000 Minneota wild...

If Leaf were actually deployed like a kill team I'd get your point.

More like your coach is given an incredibly talented team and he make them play like they are the 2000 Minneota wild...

If Leaf were actually deployed like a kill team I'd get your point.
- RogerRoeper

It's not the coach that make players get into dirty areas, that's on the players. Bruins coach holds them accountable defensively, Leafs not so much. Too many one dimensional players that can't kill penalties. In high penalty games your top players ride the pine a lot. Bruins top players play all aspects of the game.
Boston is quite soft in a lot of games too, sadly.

It's not the coach that make players get into dirty areas, that's on the players. Bruins coach holds them accountable defensively, Leads not so much. Too many one dimensional players that can't kill penalties. In high penalty games your top players ride the pine a lot. Bruins top players play all aspects of the game.
Boston is quite soft in a lot of games too, sadly.
- Thornton22

They are playing a terrible system they are not suited for. On top of that he does not sstack the line like Boston does (Marchand/Pasta/Bergeron would never play together if he was coach.

Hes' a dinosaur.

Even if he stays and they turn it around, this is extremely bittersweet as a Sabres fan.

Use a fan-boy billionaire to drive up your price and then run to Toronto and tell them they have a PS4 over at the other guy's house and you're gonna need more than an XBOX 1 if you're gonna come home.

Is it Babs fault as much as it is the teams makeup is full of guys who couldn't spell hard work?



I guess the progressive knowitall Kyle Dumbazz caving to agents ridiculous demands resulting in the team not being able to ice a deep team has nothing to do about it...?



More lieberal privilege!






#IstandwithBabs

They are playing a terrible system they are not suited for. On top of that he does not sstack the line like Boston does (Marchand/Pasta/Bergeron would never play together if he was coach.

Hes' a dinosaur.
- RogerRoeper

When a line struggles you break it up, Boston has done that many times with Pasta/Bergy/Marshand. Your top players aren't good defensively. Putting them together om a regular basis makes them vulnerable and with a lack of depth on D to cover them you wind up either taking a lot of penalties and thus your top players aren't playing or you get scored on.
You team needs to play a team defense game and then you will more successful. Boston has been a top scoring and top defensive team for a long time. Players had to buy in or they sat.

P.s. all teams go through slumps, you're in one now. Relax a bit

That’s nice for the Coyotes, but has nothing to do wth Babcock being the most overrated coach in the NHL.
- Makita

You can see by the body language the players are tuning him out.

When Tyson Barrie texts his buddies that he can't wait to get out of there,you know there are issues with Babcock...says he's an idiot lol.

When a line struggles you break it up, Boston has done that many times with Pasta/Bergy/Marshand. Your top players aren't good defensively. Putting them together om a regular basis makes them vulnerable and with a lack of depth on D to cover them you wind up either taking a lot of penalties and thus your top players aren't playing or you get scored on.
You team needs to play a team defense and then you will more successful. Boston has been a top scoring and top defensive team for a long time. Players had to buy in or they sat.
- Thornton22

Our top player need top minute. He just played Zack Hyman more in a game in hi first game in 7 months following major knee surgery than a healthy 22 year-old on pace for 60 goal, 110 points...

He' an idiot

You can see by the body language the players are tuning him out.

When Tyson Barrie texts his buddies that he can't wait to get out of there,you know there are issues with Babcock...says he's an idiot lol.
- LordHumungous

Tyson Barrie is losing millions. It is shockingly stupid he ha never been used once on the 1st PP unit.

Our top player need top minute. He just played Zack Hyman more in a game in hi first game in 7 months following major knee surgery than a healthy 22 year-old on pace for 60 goal, 110 points...

He' an idiot
- RogerRoeper

Matthews doesn't play defensively in the least. Did the game you mentioned have a lot of penalties?

Tyson Barrie is losing millions. It is shockingly stupid he ha never been used once on the 1st PP unit.
- RogerRoeper

We agree lol!!

Honestly speaking as a non Leafs fan that club should have had the no 1 PP in the League with Matthews Marner Tavares Reilly and Barrie. That should have been sick to watch.

Matthews doesn't play defensively in the least. Did the game you mentioned have a lot of penalties?
- Thornton22

How was Marchand at age 22?

Matthews is a stud #1 C you build around. He needs to play much more than he does.

We agree lol!!

Honestly speaking as a non Leafs fan that club should have had the no 1 PP in the League with Matthews Marner Tavares Reilly and Barrie. That should have been sick to watch.
- LordHumungous

I understand starting with Barrie on the #2 unit. But after the PP has been so brutal why wouldn't you at least try changing that up? Rielly gets plenty of ice time elsewhere, #2 PP might not be such a bad thing for him...and I say that as some who has Rielly, not Barrie, in a fantasy league lol

Shanahan has no formal education or real qualifications to run a hockey team, let alone the most valuable one in the sport.

In no other walk of life could a guy like that have a job like that, and yet people scratch their heads when it doesn’t go right.

And also, he’s an bumhole who is generally not liked .

Matthews doesn't play defensively in the least. Did the game you mentioned have a lot of penalties?
- Thornton22

Toronto is made up of individuals more concerned about their stat lines than winning. They get their pay day then live the life of entitlement.

"I scored, I did my job"

Sums up the Toronto Maple Leafs.

How was Marchand at age 22?

Matthews is a stud #1 C you build around. He needs to play much more than he does.
- RogerRoeper

Marshand was a good player at 22 not the player he is now, but a good player.

I agree you do build a team around Matthews, Dubas didn't and you don't have the cap to do it now. That's not on Babs. Matthews has the tools, but also has a lot Kessel like qualities that he needs to grow out of.

Toronto is made up of individuals more concerned about their stat lines than winning. They get their pay day then live the life of entitlement.

"I scored, I did my job"

Sums up the Toronto Maple Leafs.
- Glak18

Bingo. That's exactly what it looks like.

I ran into Mike Commodore awhile ago. I'm a Wings fan and told him I wish he got a fair shake there. He laughed. Said very few people even remember I played in Detroit. He said he enjoyed it, but his coach was a f***** a*** and the most overrated f**** coach in the NHL. I laughed. Then I laughed even harder when the Leafs signed him. Haha.

I hear you but one defenseman doesn’t make a defense. You need depth in this league.
- Cptmjl

What has Lou done to improve the D corps in Long Island? Barry Trotz is the reason the Isles team D has been excellent. Proof? How about how the Isles D performed the year before Trotz landed?

How was Marchand at age 22?

Matthews is a stud #1 C you build around. He needs to play much more than he does.
- RogerRoeper

Yes he does need to play MUCH more than he does, when he is on the ice.

I ran into Mike Commodore awhile ago. I'm a Wings fan and told him I wish he got a fair shake there. He laughed. Said very few people even remember I played in Detroit. He said he enjoyed it, but his coach was a f***** a*** and the most overrated f**** coach in the NHL. I laughed. Then I laughed even harder when the Leafs signed him. Haha.
- uofcguy

Commodore played a whopping 17 games under Babs. He was a mediocre D when he played and he's an even worse troll now that he's outside the game.

I ran into Mike Commodore awhile ago. I'm a Wings fan and told him I wish he got a fair shake there. He laughed. Said very few people even remember I played in Detroit. He said he enjoyed it, but his coach was a f***** a*** and the most overrated f**** coach in the NHL. I laughed. Then I laughed even harder when the Leafs signed him. Haha.
- uofcguy

E5?

Babs does have shortcomings that we saw in his time here in Detroit. He is egotistical, and can get tunnel vision on players - good and bad. I won't get into details, but some of the roster / salary cap problems here were Babs' doing. Having said that, Shanny owns the problem in TO. His GM and coach want to do things totally different ways, and are definitely not on the same page. I will say that Babs is more likely right than Dubas. He has won everything, and knows how is needs to happen, and it won't with the roster he was dealt there. Dubas, on the other hand, has won nothing, and has yet to learn that stats and metrics don't necessarily win hockey games - people do. Toronto had a sub standard defense last season, and I am in awe of Dubas ability to make it worse - the players they added aren't known for their own zone defense and ability to keep the puck out of their own net, and that is what the TML's really needed. It will be interesting to see what Shanny's next move will be.
- Iago

Great post. But I have one sarcastic question. People keep talking about how Dubas is a nerd - which he most certainly IS. BUT.... if he's so in love with advanced stats and metrics, wtf he bring in Ceci for??? 😱

It's not the coach that make players get into dirty areas, that's on the players. Bruins coach holds them accountable defensively, Leafs not so much. Too many one dimensional players that can't kill penalties. In high penalty games your top players ride the pine a lot. Bruins top players play all aspects of the game.
Boston is quite soft in a lot of games too, sadly.
- Thornton22

Believe it or not, Marner has been a top penalty kill minute muncher for that team.