We need to be totally fair though.

He’s tried to add UFA’s.

Zuccarello
JVR
Donskoi
Gardiner
Boyle

They all turned us down.

He can’t force guys to sign here.

It is a factor that he has to find players willing to play here long term. It’s not easy.

We were the 2nd worst destination to play for voted on by the players
- sbroads24

I was hoping for one of Zuccarello or Nyquist but both of those contracts are tire fires.

Mojo on a 2 year term may have been the most sane free agent signing I’ve seen in the past 5 years.

What year, if any, would it be reasonable and not impatient, to expect to get to the playoffs?

There’s been a bunch of moves
Many of which you’ve liked
- jdfitz77

Several of which I did not, and not nearly enough of the forward variety

Both 1 year rentals.

Did you know Haula is out indefinitely with knee issues he also had in Vegas?

He might be done for months
- sbroads24

What did they spend, a 5th? Even if he never plays another game for the canes, that trade and his 8 goals is a better value than Vesey for a 3rd

What year, if any, would it be reasonable and not impatient, to expect to get to the playoffs?
- PrinceChill

It not the “expecting to get to the playoffs” part
It’s the b!tching & moaning EVERY SINGLE DAY from some, and the constant wild overreactions, that we could do without

Several of which I did not, and not nearly enough of the forward variety
- jcragcrumple

Well maybe if u keep complaining on here long enough, Botts will trade for Haula & make everything ok 😂😂😂

What did they spend, a 5th? Even if he never plays another game for the canes, that trade and his 8 goals is a better value than Vesey for a 3rd
- jcragcrumple

And Nicholas Roy who has 3 points in his first 6 games with Vegas and was a pretty decent prospect.

Remember when people freaked out over Gusev? He’s been one of the worst forwards in the NHL this year in a LOT of statistical categories

Vesey sucks, it was a 3rd rounder, now he needs to go get someone else. Probably two top 9 guys.

I personally think Jeremy White who thinks a top 6 guy will be here by months end will be correct

What year, if any, would it be reasonable and not impatient, to expect to get to the playoffs?
- PrinceChill

If we aren’t a playoff team next year then I’ll lead the charge myself to pack his bags, and I’m his biggest supporter.

90% of the team is either a UFA/RFA at years end and if he doesn’t make the right decisions then there is no more excuses.

And Nicholas Roy who has 3 points in his first 6 games with Vegas and was a pretty decent prospect.

Remember when people freaked out over Gusev? He’s been one of the worst forwards in the NHL this year in a LOT of statistical categories

Vesey sucks, it was a 3rd rounder, now he needs to go get someone else. Probably two top 9 guys.

I personally think Jeremy White who thinks a top 6 guy will be here by months end will be correct
- sbroads24

Gusev is on pace for 25 even strength goals,
on a bad team, playing just over 12min a night on line3

Might still be #NFN for you,
but I’m pretty sure i was right & he could’ve helped us

I also love the assumption that we could’ve brought in _____UFA, like they know he’d have signed here
- jdfitz77

Ah yes, the other crystal baller opinion. Because another team got a guy means we also could have definitely for sure, 100% gotten him as well. LOL....

Gusev is on pace for 25 even strength goals,
on a bad team, playing just over 12min a night on line3

Might still be #NFN for you,
but I’m pretty sure i was right & he could’ve helped us
- jdfitz77

I’ll break #NFN to say this -

I never cared if we disagreed, or things got heated.

You came on here one too many times to bash me personally at 2-3am when I wasn’t around about things I might’ve said months or even years ago to be a complete douche.

If you wanna stop doing than cool I’ll stop being a douche as well

Ah yes, the other crystal baller opinion. Because another team got a guy means we also could have definitely for sure, 100% gotten him as well. LOL....
- seedy

Yeah, and also...
I’m sure Botts (and coincidentally EVERY OTHER GM) is just “sitting on his hands”, not wanting to try & improve the team


I think it’s fun to debate and bounce ideas off one another that we like

But I’ll never understand how the day long complaining every damn day does anything for anyone other than make them more miserable
Utter waste of time

To add to the depression of Buffalo sports, I was born in July of 1995. I have not yet lived to see a Bills playoff victory yet.
- Pegullaville

Jesus, now I really feel old

It not the “expecting to get to the playoffs” part
It’s the b!tching & moaning EVERY SINGLE DAY from some, and the constant wild overreactions, that we could do without
- jdfitz77

Stop talking to yourself

I’ll break #NFN to say this -

I never cared if we disagreed, or things got heated.

You came on here one too many times to bash me personally at 2-3am when I wasn’t around about things I might’ve said months or even years ago to be a complete douche.

If you wanna stop doing than cool I’ll stop being a douche as well
- sbroads24

It’s been going both ways for years dude
Don’t get all high & mighty with me now

And as far as bringing up stuff from the past
You just won’t stop going on & on & on when u dislike a player
So yeah,
it’s relevant to bring up instances in the past where you bashed Sam all the time, or O’Reilly,
or u use a small sample size of games to backup your point, but dismiss others’ views if they do the exact same thing

Idk what to tell ya
We see things very differently a lot of the times
There’s a good chance we will continue to be on the opposite side of debates

What year, if any, would it be reasonable and not impatient, to expect to get to the playoffs?
- PrinceChill

2041

Yeah, and also...
I’m sure Botts (and coincidentally EVERY OTHER GM) is just “sitting on his hands”, not wanting to try & improve the team
No you’re not

I think it’s fun to debate and bounce ideas off one another that we like

This is a bad start

But I’ll never understand how the day long complaining every damn day does anything for anyone other than make them more miserable
Utter waste of time
- jdfitz77

That’s for sure

Welp. I tried

Stop talking to yourself
- washedup20

I’ll meet u at the park & we can have a conversation

Thanks so much for caring
You’re a really great guy

I’ll meet u at the park & we can have a conversation

Thanks so much for caring
You’re a really great guy
- jdfitz77

So desperate to meet me dude

If we aren’t a playoff team next year then I’ll lead the charge myself to pack his bags, and I’m his biggest supporter.

90% of the team is either a UFA/RFA at years end and if he doesn’t make the right decisions then there is no more excuses.
- Pegullaville

The excuse I’d expect to read and hear would be, “there’s so many new players, they need a season to get to know each other. Maybe next year.”

Welp. I tried
- sbroads24

Nothing i said was douchey or attacking towards you

Welp. I tried
- sbroads24

The guy likes to looooooooose

2041
- homiedclown

So impatient.

So desperate to meet me dude
- washedup20

You’re just so amazing, how can i not be?

I hear there’s a great bar in Lockport we could go hang at