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GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Nov 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
Skinner-Rodrigues-Sheary
Vesey-Mittelstadt-Lazar
Girgensons-Asplund-BOGOSIAN

These are the 3 middle/bottom lines from yesterday's practice. Minus Skinner this is a Calder Cup challenging lineup. Bogo on the wing might be ECHL level.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
Skinner-Rodrigues-Sheary
Vesey-Mittelstadt-Lazar
Girgensons-Asplund-BOGOSIAN

These are the 3 middle/bottom lines from yesterday's practice. Minus Skinner this is a Calder Cup challenging lineup. Bogo on the wing might be ECHL level.

- GilPerreault11


That is a tank you for playing lineup in many ways.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Exactly, he is part of the 100 million we have coming off the books
- hubie


Here's the fun thing, IMO.

Some will make the point that Botts has failed in bolstering the Top 6 in the offseason via:
I) Trade, because
a) we don't have the assets
b) we didn't don't have Cap Space
c) no willing Partners
d) return isn't significant enough
II) UFA signings, because
a) several UFA's rejected Sabres, none really wanted to play here
b) Salary/ Cap cost was too high (astronomical)
c) Term too long

Now, many look forward to next offseason when Sabres are projected to have around $35m available are eager to reload the roster via FA.

I wonder, do they expect IIa, b, c above to magically vanish? How do they reconcile these seemingly conflicting points?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
That is a tank you for playing lineup in many ways.
- kingcong39


This is last game of the pre season type stuff.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
Holtz or Raymond?






Tank me out to the Sabres game.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
Here's the fun thing, IMO.

Some will mix the idea that Botts has failed in bolstering the Top 6 in the offseason via:
I) Trade, because
a) we don't have the assets
b) we didn't don't have Cap Space
c) no willing Partners
d) return isn't significant enough
II) UFA signings, because
a) several UFA's rejected Sabres, none really wanted to play here
b) Salary/ Cap cost was too high (astronomical)
c) Term too long

Now, many who look forward to next offseason when Sabres are projected to have around $35m available are eager to reload the roster via FA.

I wonder, do they expect IIa, b, c above to magically vanish? How do they reconcile these seemingly conflicting points?

- IonSabres



Then I guess no matter who the gm is, we're going to suck.

Welcome to being a Sabres fan in 2020.

Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
He should have been bought out or waived. Honestly it's not worth rehashing. People are undoubtedly sick of hearing about it. The wild suck. We might win tonight
- jcragcrumple

I’d take that wager I think.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry

- adambuffalo


Drunks and coke heads don't like it here for sure.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Drunks and coke heads don't like it here for sure.
- RhinoFan


You would think they would like that atmosphere. Like a fun, party college where you get drunk, high and go to class when you want to but get paid millions.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry

- adambuffalo


How many players now hated playing here?

I think it’s at 5 or 6 now.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 19 @ 3:20 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry

- adambuffalo


I wish they would cite exactly why though.
Fans?, Coaches?, GM., Owners?, what exactly was/is so degrading?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:20 PM ET
How many players now hated playing here?

I think it’s at 5 or 6 now.

- Sabretooth9



It's an epidemic.

Must be Kim's fault.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry

- adambuffalo

6 games deep and he thinks he’s on a roll. He’s 2 turnovers shy of riding the bench.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:25 PM ET
It's an epidemic.

Must be Kim's fault.

- Powerslave


Just googled an article and i dont see how ROR would like living here when his wife and child stayed in Denver. Ive traveled for work and a few days away form my family kinds sucks. Imagine months at a time. The article said they didnt go to games till eh got traded to St Louis
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:27 PM ET
How many players now hated playing here?

I think it’s at 5 or 6 now.

- Sabretooth9


Hm. Win more.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
I wish they would cite exactly why though.
Fans?, Coaches?, GM., Owners?, what exactly was/is so degrading?

- IonSabres


Not enough blow.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Just googled an article and i dont see how ROR would like living here when his wife and child stayed in Denver. Ive traveled for work and a few days away form my family kinds sucks. Imagine months at a time. The article said they didnt go to games till eh got traded to St Louis
- hubie



These articles are basically kicking a franchise when it's down.

Ask anyone who's been on a losing team for a few years if it's any fun.

I'm not deflecting blame away from anyone who's had any say in running this team the past decade (and there's been a bunch of them, and they all (frank)ed up in one way or another), but did anyone expect Nathan "sniff, sniff" Beaulieu to say he had a great time here?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:29 PM ET
Hm. Win more.
- TheSabresTaco



And that's what it all boils down to.

The players shouldn't be let off the hook here, either.

They were all part it and had influence on what happened ON the ice.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
These articles are basically kicking a franchise when it's down.

Ask anyone who's been on a losing team for a few years if it's any fun.

I'm not deflecting blame away from anyone who's had any say in running this team the past decade (and there's been a bunch of them, and they all (frank)ed up in one way or another), but did anyone expect Nathan "sniff, sniff" Beaulieu to say he had a great time here?

- Powerslave



Housley didn't like him and the drunk goalie was probably screaming at him constantly
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
Hey, if they beat a bad wild team tonight, they'll have points in 3 of the last 4 and can talk about that. Lmao
Beethoven
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.03.2019

Nov 19 @ 3:51 PM ET
Here's the fun thing, IMO.

Some will mix the idea that Botts has failed in bolstering the Top 6 in the offseason via:
I) Trade, because
a) we don't have the assets
b) we didn't don't have Cap Space
c) no willing Partners
d) return isn't significant enough
II) UFA signings, because
a) several UFA's rejected Sabres, none really wanted to play here
b) Salary/ Cap cost was too high (astronomical)
c) Term too long

Now, many who look forward to next offseason when Sabres are projected to have around $35m available are eager to reload the roster via FA.

I wonder, do they expect IIa, b, c above to magically vanish? How do they reconcile these seemingly conflicting points?

- IonSabres

Make no moves and just resign RFAs

20/21

Reinhart(7) Eichel(10) Skinner(9)
Johansson(4.5) Mittelstadt(2.25) Olofsson(4)
Thompson(1.5) Erod(1.5) Okposo(6)
Lazar(.800) Asplund(.845) Vesey(1.5)
XF(1)

Ristolainen(5.4)
Montour(5)
Miller(3.875)
McCabe(2.85)
Dahlin(.925)
Joiharju(.925)
Pikut(.925)

Hutton(2.75)
Ullmark(2.75)

Hodgson(.792)

Total salary 76.087

Dahlin and Jokiharju contracts coming due the next season.

I have no idea why people are under the impression we have so much money to work with.

When Dahlin and Jokiharju get pay increases we have almost nothing left.

Johansson and McCabe will fall off the books and you can replace their salaries for cheaper options. But that’s a far cry away from having 34M to work with.

The way I see it is we have around 7 million cap space to spend.

21/22

Reinhart(7) Eichel(10) Skinner(9)
Olofsson(4) Mittelstadt(2.25) Okposo(6)
Thompson(1.5) Cozens(.925) Vesey(1.5)
Pekar(.925) Erod(1.5) Asplund(.845)
Lazar(.800)

Dahlin(8)
Risto(5.4)
Montour(5)
Miller(3.875)
Jokiharju(3.25)
Pilut(.925)
Borgen(.925)

Ullmark(2.75)
UPL(.925)

Hodgson(.792)

Total salary:78.087

This is bare bones. Keeping no expiring UFAs and replacing Salaries falling off the books with entry level contracts to save as much as possible.

Does anyone see 34 million to spend?

The only way to make the changes needed for this team is thru trade. Use the value we have on defense to trade for legitimate top six players.

Yes you’ll lose out on some defense talent and depth. But you have to hope that Dahlin, Jokiharju and Pilut can fill that loss with increased ice time and maturation.

We are so far away from having the scoring we need from our forward group. We have Mittelstadt who we hope will improve and Cozens to help. No other scoring talent whatsoever in the pipeline.

Hoping to draft and develop players will take too long. By the time those players would be available Skinner, Eichel and a Reinhart will be past their prime.

The only answer is to make trades.
Gfromarizona
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:58 PM ET
A non-informative article if ever.....why did the Sabres lose those games? Who played poorly ? What mmoves did Kreuger make to adjust the D or lines ? Any fan can recount who scored......weak report from a respected blogger.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:00 PM ET
A non-informative article if ever.....why did the Sabres lose those games?
- Gfromarizona

Because they stink.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 19 @ 4:04 PM ET
Nathan Beaulieu is doing well in Winnipeg, as @WiebeAthletic writes. As for his time with Sabres ...
"Mentally, it was so degrading. ... You heard Ryan O’Reilly say it and I know (the Sabres) didn’t like what he said, but he couldn’t have put it better." https://t.co/y7yrn0nvry

- adambuffalo

You’d think players would be more excited and grateful for high drafts picks.
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