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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 20 @ 9:54 AM ET
You just don't see it.
- Marwood


#systems
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 20 @ 9:55 AM ET
I doubt it's Babcock. More like Barrie really sucks at defence and isn't being sheltered not nearly as much as he was in Colorado.

NHL.com had their top 20 lists of best defenders and Barrie even though one of the top 10 highest scoring defence doesn't make the list because as they stated "isn't very good defensively"

- manvanfan


The consensus was the Myers was also a bad defender sheltered on a strong Winnipeg team, and he’s held his own here. If you can get Barrie and play him in Stecher’s role while quarterbacking PP2 instead of Edler, I’d do that in a heartbeat.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:05 AM ET
Oh come on makita, you're telling me you disagree with greens decision to play schaller with petey for different shifts after going down 2 goals?
- Codes1087

How can anyone question his coaching prowess, Pettersson with Schaller and Eriksson sounds about right.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:07 AM ET
I doubt it's Babcock. More like Barrie really sucks at defence and isn't being sheltered not nearly as much as he was in Colorado.

NHL.com had their top 20 lists of best defenders and Barrie even though one of the top 10 highest scoring defence doesn't make the list because as they stated "isn't very good defensively"

- manvanfan

Yup, it's all Barrie's fault.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:08 AM ET
Oh come on makita, you're telling me you disagree with greens decision to play schaller with petey for different shifts after going down 2 goals?
- Codes1087

BTW, Boeser should be paired with Beagle and Leivo, surprised we haven’t seen that stacked combination.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 20 @ 10:11 AM ET
Yup, it's all Barrie's fault.
- Marwood

You know that both Babcock and Green will get fired, TO picks up Green and he takes the Leafs to the finals, Barrie looks all world and Benning will pay him 8x8...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:13 AM ET
You know that both Babcock and Green will get fired, TO picks up Green and he takes the Leafs to the finals, Barrie looks all world and Benning will pay him 8x8...
- Makita

I don't find this amusing.
sfischer
Washington Capitals
Joined: 12.04.2006

Nov 20 @ 10:17 AM ET
Beagle needs a pail to carry the puck, other than faceoffs he's pretty useless as a player.
- Pacificgem


He has a Stanley Cup on his resume. If your argument is whether Vancouver slotted him in a role and salary beyond his abilities, that's hard to dispute.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:23 AM ET
The consensus was the Myers was also a bad defender sheltered on a strong Winnipeg team, and he’s held his own here. If you can get Barrie and play him in Stecher’s role while quarterbacking PP2 instead of Edler, I’d do that in a heartbeat.
- NewYorkNuck



I don't want Barrie. Nothing against his game I just don't feel like taking a chance on another high paid long term free agent.

I want to replace Stecher this year at TDL with Rafferty. Sign Rathbone at the end of the year , give him a few games up here and then send him to Utica for a year.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 20 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fanboys in shambles.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
Bobby Ryan going into players assistance program
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
Fanboys in shambles.


- bloatedmosquito

But the rebuild is over and the Canucks are contenders.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
I doubt it's Babcock. More like Barrie really sucks at defence and isn't being sheltered not nearly as much as he was in Colorado.

NHL.com had their top 20 lists of best defenders and Barrie even though one of the top 10 highest scoring defence doesn't make the list because as they stated "isn't very good defensively"

- manvanfan


That's what you get with offensive-minded dmen risk/reward.

His +/- isn't great granted but you don't bury a 60 point dman in the second pairing with little to no PP1 time.

It's Babcock lol

You can see the rest of the club is tuning Babcock out as well.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
How can anyone question his coaching prowess, Pettersson with Schaller and Eriksson sounds about right.
- Makita

lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:36 AM ET
Fanboys in shambles.


- bloatedmosquito

It's November.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
It's November.
- LordHumungous


November is laughing its ass off at October.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
But the rebuild is over and the Canucks are contenders.
- Marwood

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
November is laughing its ass off at October.
- bloatedmosquito

lol true story.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
I don't want Barrie. Nothing against his game I just don't feel like taking a chance on another high paid long term free agent.

I want to replace Stecher this year at TDL with Rafferty. Sign Rathbone at the end of the year , give him a few games up here and then send him to Utica for a year.

- VANTEL


I’m not suggesting signing him this summer. I suggested trading Stecher for him. If he works, can sign shorter term or trade him then.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
BTW, Boeser should be paired with Beagle and Leivo, surprised we haven’t seen that stacked combination.
- Makita


im going to get flack for this, but have you ever seen someone with such shltty passing on the first unit powerplay? If Boeser isn't teeing up a shot from the point, i am scared every time he touches it because his passes are awful, and are half the time picked off.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
But the rebuild is over and the Canucks are contenders.
- Marwood


Have you ever heard a more ridiculous statement? Optimism is great but it should never replace reality or common sense.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Nov 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
im going to get flack for this, but have you ever seen someone with such shltty passing on the first unit powerplay? If Boeser isn't teeing up a shot from the point, i am scared every time he touches it because his passes are awful, and are half the time picked off.
- Codes1087


It’s not just passing. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen him win a puck battle. He makes five bad plays for every good play.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
Bobby Ryan going into players assistance program
- VANTEL

Wonder if it's drugs/alcohol or mental health issues. Either way, hope for the best for him, would make a lot of sense if he's been dealing with some issues the last few years.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Have you ever heard a more ridiculous statement? Optimism is great but it should never replace reality or common sense.
- bloatedmosquito

The good news is they will keep their pick this draft and Green & Benning will be fired. The best off season ever.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 20 @ 10:53 AM ET
Wonder if it's drugs/alcohol or mental health issues. Either way, hope for the best for him, would make a lot of sense if he's been dealing with some issues the last few years.
- NorthNuck


He’s also had massive financial troubles. It’s a wonder he’s been able to compete professionally.
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