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daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 9:59 AM ET
What would you want from the Sabres for Couturier?
- kingcong39

i dont think it is realistic that the flyers trade him; unless it was a really lopsided trade which wont happen.

Probably reinhart to start the conversation. Cozens or middlestat. Just off the cuff thinking
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
Majority of flyers fans probably laugh. Though the thing is when #14 needs a new contract in a few years will or should the flyers pay him 9+ million to keep him? he will have a lot of hard miles on his body,

If they move him think they can do better than a 1 for 1 with reinhart. That is not a knock on reinhart by any means either.

I dont think the JVR contract is horrible by the way.

- daryl stanley


Ya, I suspected that would be the answer. Sam is on track for 61sh points, Couturier for 64sh...no big difference there. Both good posession drivers, Sean gets more DZs though. Probably closer in reality than many think, but an edge to Couturier in play. Sean a couple years older.

JVR on ths downslope at 30, which started a couple years ago...on pace for 33 pts for $7m for 3 more seasons. Not what I would want.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:11 AM ET
Ya, I suspected that would be the answer. Sam is on track for 61sh points, Couturier for 64sh...no big difference there. Both good posession drivers, Sean gets more DZs though. Probably closer in reality than many think, but an edge to Couturier in play. Sean a couple years older.

JVR on ths downslope at 30, which started a couple years ago...on pace for 33 pts for $7m for 3 more seasons. Not what I would want.

- IonSabres

points wise not a big diff as you said. Cant say i am 100% aware of how reinhart is defensively though couterier is a top end center. I have no issue moving him if the price is right. I am in way way minority though...

JVR will still get you the 25-35 goals. Though i get why wouldnt want him.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:13 AM ET
Idk if they showed it on the WGR broadcast last night but on CBC they kept showing Botts, Sexton, Pegula, and company in the suites.

Everyone was there to witness the game last night.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
points wise not a big diff as you said. Cant say i am 100% aware of how reinhart is defensively though couterier is a top end center. I have no issue moving him if the price is right. I am in way way minority though...

JVR will still get you the 25-35 goals. Though i get why wouldnt want him.

- daryl stanley


Only concern for me would be the fact that Couts is due a new deal and his next contract would take him deep into his 30’s.

Trading a 60 point winger for a 60 point Center who is also a top 3-5 defensive player at his position in the NHL is a no brainer.

I’d keep Sam though unless we are getting a player of similar age back though.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
points wise not a big diff as you said. Cant say i am 100% aware of how reinhart is defensively though couterier is a top end center. I have no issue moving him if the price is right. I am in way way minority though...

JVR will still get you the 25-35 goals. Though i get why wouldnt want him.

- daryl stanley


JVR is a good player. Sabres need is more on the right side though. Voracek is too expensive for too long.

Sam is good defensively, and sneaky smart. It would hurt to let him go on the right, but they have a need for a good 2C.
Oh well, thanks for the banter.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
JVR is a good player. Sabres need is more on the right side though. Voracek is too expensive for too long.

Sam is good defensively, and sneaky smart. It would hurt to let him go on the right, but they have a need for a good 2C.
Oh well, thanks for the banter.

- IonSabres

couterier is more than a good 2C...enjoy your day
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
Only concern for me would be the fact that Couts is due a new deal and his next contract would take him deep into his 30’s.

Trading a 60 point winger for a 60 point Center who is also a top 3-5 defensive player at his position in the NHL is a no brainer.

I’d keep Sam though unless we are getting a player of similar age back though.

- Pegullaville

well thats my big concern as well, the future contract. Thats why i would have no issue selling high on him if the flyers choose that route; which imo they will not.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:32 AM ET
i dont think it is realistic that the flyers trade him; unless it was a really lopsided trade which wont happen.

Probably reinhart to start the conversation. Cozens or middlestat. Just off the cuff thinking

- daryl stanley


Does that mean you'd want Reinhart and one of Mittelstadt/Cozens?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:33 AM ET
i dont think it is realistic that the flyers trade him; unless it was a really lopsided trade which wont happen.

Probably reinhart to start the conversation. Cozens or middlestat. Just off the cuff thinking

- daryl stanley

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Alright, let's look at Giroux. I know he wears the C, but has a pretty big contract for the next couple of years. What would it take for him. We would need to be pretty close to money in - money out.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
Only concern for me would be the fact that Couts is due a new deal and his next contract would take him deep into his 30’s.

Trading a 60 point winger for a 60 point Center who is also a top 3-5 defensive player at his position in the NHL is a no brainer.

I’d keep Sam though unless we are getting a player of similar age back though.

- Pegullaville

Couturier> any center we’ve had not named Eichel
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
Couturier> any center we’ve had not named Eichel
- sbroads24


Not disagreeing with you one bit. I’d just like to see someone a bit younger then Couts coming back if we were to deal Sam.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:51 AM ET
Idk if they showed it on the WGR broadcast last night but on CBC they kept showing Botts, Sexton, Pegula, and company in the suites.

Everyone was there to witness the game last night.

- Pegullaville


Yes msg showed pegula and the assistant coach that sits in the press box. They didn’t show botts or sexton.

My only Concern with the gang all there is ..... “hey this team played the leafs very tough. Changes aren’t needed. “. Trade wise
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
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Alright, let's look at Giroux. I know he wears the C, but has a pretty big contract for the next couple of years. What would it take for him. We would need to be pretty close to money in - money out.

- IonSabres

if he wanted to be moved giroux would have asked by now. He has a nmc and dont see him leaving to be honest. Def dont see hi waiving it for buffalo.

Flyers are stuck i no mans land right now.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Does that mean you'd want Reinhart and one of Mittelstadt/Cozens?
- kingcong39

he is a top line center. So yes. Not sure buff does that though will take a lot to get him imo.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
he is a top line center. So yes. Not sure buff does that though will take a lot to get him imo.
- daryl stanley


Take your ball and go home, don’t think we are good trading partners.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:06 AM ET
Take your ball and go home, don’t think we are good trading partners.
- Pegullaville


Yup, not seeing it either.
He's right though, they need to unload a couple big contracts, and Sabres don't have Cap space presently.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 1 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yup, not seeing it either.
He's right though, they need to unload a couple big contracts, and Sabres don't have Cap space presently.

- IonSabres


Obviously talked about this summer ..... move okposos 6 mill contact. Long term IR him or something
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
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Alright, let's look at Giroux. I know he wears the C, but has a pretty big contract for the next couple of years. What would it take for him. We would need to be pretty close to money in - money out.

- IonSabres[/quote

Giroux while still a great player, is in the decline years of his career. Not sure I’d want to eat that big contract for 2 maybe 3 solid years of play.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:19 AM ET
[quote=IonSabres]
- lulags[url]

Alright, let's look at Giroux. I know he wears the C, but has a pretty big contract for the next couple of years. What would it take for him. We would need to be pretty close to money in - money out.[/quote

Giroux while still a great player, is in the decline years of his career. Not sure I’d want to eat that big contract for 2 maybe 3 solid years of play.


His contract only goes for 2 more years after this season?
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
Take your ball and go home, don’t think we are good trading partners.
- Pegullaville

got to give to get.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 11:37 AM ET
got to give to get.
- daryl stanley


That's what she said
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
Thinking about currency botts has to play with besides the obvious.

Bryson and Borgen in Rochester could be some good pieces. Not downing them or think they suck. I think they could have value. We have Ryan Johnson and samuelsson in the pipeline coming soon.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
Thinking about currency botts has to play with besides the obvious.

Bryson and Borgen in Rochester could be some good pieces. Not downing them or think they suck. I think they could have value. We have Ryan Johnson and samuelsson in the pipeline coming soon.

- Sabretooth9


Asplund looks good , probably has some value.

Hope the Sabres keep him
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
Asplund looks good , probably has some value.

Hope the Sabres keep him

- Boss34


Gotta keep Asplund so the Lockport twins can go!
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