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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:45 PM ET
The best thing the NFL's done in years is move the PAT back. It creates absolute chaos.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 1 @ 10:47 PM ET
Jeff Skinner is a long term Sabre and I couldn’t be happier
- sbroads24
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Not sure why there's so many Skinner bashers on this forum. Who would the Sabres replace his 35 to 40 goals with? EROD? For Pete's sake, Larsson is his Centre and Sheary is on the other side. He is playing with garbage.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 10:48 PM ET
Skinner could use some of that, some of those
Expected goals could actually turn into real goals.

Maybe Jesus could help our 1/37 PP too.

- Pegullaville

It’s really sad that because you don’t like his contract, and you refuse to be wrong (despite this occurring a lot more than you think) you actually think he’s bad.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:49 PM ET
Pens LhD Brian Domoulin expected to be out about 8 weeks, Cap hit of $4.1m.
Scandella LhD has Cap hit of $4.0m, while McCabe's is $2.85m.
Sabres GM Botts has a relationship with Pens GM Jim Rutherford.
Could Sabres and Pens work a deal? Could Sabres pry Jared McCann out of there?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:50 PM ET
f

Not sure why there's so many Skinner bashers on this forum. Who would the Sabres replace his 35 to 40 goals with? EROD? For Pete's sake, Larsson is his Centre and Sheary is on the other side. He is playing with garbage.

- SabreWest


There's really only one consistent voice.
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:50 PM ET
It’s really sad that because you don’t like his contract, and you refuse to be wrong (despite this occurring a lot more than you think) you actually think he’s bad.
- sbroads24


This is a widespread problem that occurs not only here.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:53 PM ET
There's really only one consistent voice.
- IonSabres


It’s only a matter of time.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 10:57 PM ET
It’s really sad that because you don’t like his contract, and you refuse to be wrong (despite this occurring a lot more than you think) you actually think he’s bad.
- sbroads24


I mean the national media and fans of any team not named the Sabres also agree with that sentiment.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 10:58 PM ET
f

Not sure why there's so many Skinner bashers on this forum. Who would the Sabres replace his 35 to 40 goals with? EROD? For Pete's sake, Larsson is his Centre and Sheary is on the other side. He is playing with garbage.

- SabreWest

He set up Sheary on the play that should’ve been called a goal.

But that wasn’t as impressive as someone getting an assist on an Eichel goal after letting Eichel do 95% of the work
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
I mean the national media and fans of any team not named the Sabres also agree with that sentiment.
- Pegullaville


They also think Matthews is God.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
It’s only a matter of time.
- Pegullaville


Hopefully 5 or 6 years from now, after he helps Jack and Dahlin hoist the Cup.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
I mean the national media and fans of any team not named the Sabres also agree with that sentiment.
- Pegullaville

No kidding. Literally 0 people disputed that part.

It was you taking it to a galaxy brained level to try and prove it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
I've been on the Bjugstad bandwagon for a while. He would be a very nice add
- jcragcrumple


Why? He’s not good
Been a disappointment for years now
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 11:15 PM ET
He set up Sheary on the play that should’ve been called a goal.

But that wasn’t as impressive as someone getting an assist on an Eichel goal after letting Eichel do 95% of the work

- sbroads24


There is a $1M dollar difference that separates a player on a 100 point pace and someone on pace for 45.

Now if that $9M dollar player plays with the $10M player he can crack 30 goals and give you 55-60 points.

However there are players, like Victor Olofsson for example, who can also produce those types of numbers with the $10M player.

So in the terms of marginal revenue, what is more important ? The $9M dollar player that can score goals at even strength or perhaps a 2C that can drive his own line, raise the play of others, perform on the PP and PK units ?

Cause in our ensuing cap crunch that is coming relatively soon, there are not a lot of dollars to go around.

However I do understand this narrow minded fan base only has their eyes set on the next 50 games, not the fact that the Buffalo Sabres have the most important years of their existence coming up when their most important players are entering their primes of their careers.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:24 PM ET
There is a $1M dollar difference that separates a player on a 100 point pace and someone on pace for 45.

Now if that $9M dollar player plays with the $10M player he can crack 30 goals and give you 55-60 points.

However there are players, like Victor Olofsson for example, who can also produce those types of numbers with the $10M player.

So in the terms of marginal revenue, what is more important ? The $9M dollar player that can score goals at even strength or perhaps a 2C that can drive his own line, raise the play of others, perform on the PP and PK units ?

Cause in our ensuing cap crunch that is coming relatively soon, there are not a lot of dollars to go around.

However I do understand this narrow minded fan base only has their eyes set on the next 50 games, not the fact that the Buffalo Sabres have the most important years of their existence coming up when their most important players are entering their primes of their careers.

- Pegullaville


There was no guarantee during the offseason when the Skinner contract was due, that Olofosson would pot 15 G's, so going on about the marginal cost now as if that was a certainty has the benefit now of 20/20 vision.
He freaking is overpaid by about $1m.
Move on.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 11:25 PM ET
There is a $1M dollar difference that separates a player on a 100 point pace and someone on pace for 45.

Now if that $9M dollar player plays with the $10M player he can crack 30 goals and give you 55-60 points.

However there are players, like Victor Olofsson for example, who can also produce those types of numbers with the $10M player.

So in the terms of marginal revenue, what is more important ? The $9M dollar player that can score goals at even strength or perhaps a 2C that can drive his own line, raise the play of others, perform on the PP and PK units ?

Cause in our ensuing cap crunch that is coming relatively soon, there are not a lot of dollars to go around.

However I do understand this narrow minded fan base only has their eyes set on the next 50 games, not the fact that the Buffalo Sabres have the most important years of their existence coming up when their most important players are entering their primes of their careers.

- Pegullaville

He has scored 30+ 3 times without a 10 million dollar center. Is on pace to have 30 this season without him.

We get it, you don’t like him. That doesn’t make all these false statements correct though.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:26 PM ET
There is a $1M dollar difference that separates a player on a 100 point pace and someone on pace for 45.

Now if that $9M dollar player plays with the $10M player he can crack 30 goals and give you 55-60 points.

However there are players, like Victor Olofsson for example, who can also produce those types of numbers with the $10M player.

So in the terms of marginal revenue, what is more important ? The $9M dollar player that can score goals at even strength or perhaps a 2C that can drive his own line, raise the play of others, perform on the PP and PK units ?

Cause in our ensuing cap crunch that is coming relatively soon, there are not a lot of dollars to go around.

However I do understand this narrow minded fan base only has their eyes set on the next 50 games, not the fact that the Buffalo Sabres have the most important years of their existence coming up when their most important players are entering their primes of their careers.

- Pegullaville


You're assuming we could obtain a 2C for the same salary, disregarding the assets it would take to acquire said player, and if the 2C is that good, he's going to be more expensive.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
You're assuming we could obtain a 2C for the same salary, disregarding the assets it would take to acquire said player, and if the 2C is that good, he's going to be more expensive.
- Wetbandit1


That’s the beauty of salary cap space, it gives you options. You never know when that said player can become available. Nazem Kadri would have looked just fine here if only Toronto was not a divisional rival.

However what I can tell you, is that there are a boatload of wingers who have changed teams this past offseason that are making huge impacts on their new clubs that aren’t making $9M a year.
Now they might not be as talented as Jeff Skinner, but they would do just fine in a top 6/9 role with cash to spare elsewhere on the roster (ironically enough filling the same role Jeff is filling right now).

Galaxy brained stuff I know.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:39 PM ET
That’s the beauty of salary cap space, it gives you options. You never know when that said player can become available. Nazem Kadri would have looked just fine here if only Toronto was not a divisional rival.

However what I can tell you, is that there are a boatload of wingers who have changed teams this past offseason that are making huge impacts on their new clubs that aren’t making $9M a year.
Now they might not be as talented as Jeff Skinner, but they would do just fine in a top 6/9 role with cash to spare elsewhere on the roster (ironically enough filling the same role Jeff is filling right now).

Galaxy brained stuff I know.

- Pegullaville


There you go with the "IF" bullpoop again, we live in the real world, kid.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:40 PM ET
There is a $1M dollar difference that separates a player on a 100 point pace and someone on pace for 45.

Now if that $9M dollar player plays with the $10M player he can crack 30 goals and give you 55-60 points.

However there are players, like Victor Olofsson for example, who can also produce those types of numbers with the $10M player.

So in the terms of marginal revenue, what is more important ? The $9M dollar player that can score goals at even strength or perhaps a 2C that can drive his own line, raise the play of others, perform on the PP and PK units ?

Cause in our ensuing cap crunch that is coming relatively soon, there are not a lot of dollars to go around.

However I do understand this narrow minded fan base only has their eyes set on the next 50 games, not the fact that the Buffalo Sabres have the most important years of their existence coming up when their most important players are entering their primes of their careers.

- Pegullaville


I think you’re contradicting yourself here
If you’re looking long term, and not at the next 50 games, then we do not need a 2C
We’ve got Mitts & Cozens
One of them will surely fill that role for us
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
There you go with the "IF" bullpoop again, we live in the real world, kid.
- Wetbandit1


You said give you an example of a 2C that was moved and I did. There will be other players that will be moved and acquired over the course of the next 48 months that fit that same bill.

How convenient of you to disregard the rest of the logic presented in that post though, boomer.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
I think you’re contradicting yourself here
If you’re looking long term, and not at the next 50 games, then we do not need a 2C
We’ve got Mitts & Cozens
One of them will surely fill that role for us

- jdfitz77


Mitts and Cozens could also fill top 6 wing positions or be the 3C for less than $9M a year.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
You said give you an example of a 2C that was moved and I did. There will be other players that will be moved and acquired over the course of the next 48 months that fit that same bill.

How convenient of you to disregard the rest of the logic presented in that post though, boomer.

- Pegullaville


Bandits not 30 yet I don’t think.

Leave him out of it.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:51 PM ET
You said give you an example of a 2C that was moved and I did. There will be other players that will be moved and acquired over the course of the next 48 months that fit that same bill.

How convenient of you to disregard the rest of the logic presented in that post though, boomer.

- Pegullaville


Kadri is still under contract.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Dec 1 @ 11:51 PM ET
I think you’re contradicting yourself here
If you’re looking long term, and not at the next 50 games, then we do not need a 2C
We’ve got Mitts & Cozens
One of them will surely fill that role for us

- jdfitz77



Pro tip: it won’t be mittlestadt. He sucks.
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