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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
Uh, one player you had to buy every UFA year, the other was buying two years of UFA.

You realize how much Eichel would get on the open market, right?

- sbroads24


You realize the Sabres didn’t have to be the ones to have buyers remorse right ?

Sharks didn’t have to sign Karlsson, Stars didn’t have to re up Benn, Jets didn’t have to give Wheeler all of those years, Philly didn’t have to sign Hayes, Vegas didn’t have to sign Stastny, Habs didn’t have to resign Price, Florida didn’t have to throw crazy money and term at Bob. Sabres didn’t have to sign Okposo, Canucks didn’t have to sign Ericsson, Oilers didn’t have to sign Lucic...............
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
Green Bay won 2 of their last 4 and 3 of their last 6 before winning the superbowl in 2010

Philly went 3-2

The Patriots win every other year because they win 12 games every year and get a bye

- jcragcrumple


The Giants also were 4-4 from November on in 2007. They won 6 in a row from mid-September until the end of October.

That said, if I had the choice, I still would rather have my team playing its best around playoff time, but you can't be a disaster at the beginning either, or it doesn't matter.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
You realize the Sabres didn’t have to be the ones to have buyers remorse right ?

Sharks didn’t have to sign Karlsson, Stars didn’t have to re up Benn, Jets didn’t have to give Wheeler all of those years, Philly didn’t have to sign Hayes, Vegas didn’t have to sign Stastny, Habs didn’t have to resign Price, Florida didn’t have to throw crazy money and term at Bob. Sabres didn’t have to sign Okposo, Canucks didn’t have to sign Ericsson, Oilers didn’t have to sign Lucic...............

- Pegullaville

Are you actually claiming they have buyers remorse “right now” as is present day, and then comparing a 27 year old who’s once again top 5 in EV goals to Milan Lucic??

Is this real?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
Kyle Okposo only makes 3 mil less than Skinner

Cant make this stuff up.

I think I’d rather overpay Skinner by 1-2 than Okposo by 4 mil

- sbroads24


Yea and most on here celebrated the Okposo signing when it happened as well.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Are you actually claiming they have buyers remorse “right now” as is present day, and then comparing a 27 year old who’s once again top 5 in EV goals to Milan Lucic??

Is this real?

- sbroads24


No those are examples of buyers remorse. I guess you skipped over the other names on the list.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
In all seriousness, Pegulaville has a point to an extent, but he's taking it to an extreme. Teams that play better later in the season have a better chance of post season success. A team that starts 10-0 and then loses its final 6 and limps into the final wild card seed is most likely not going to make any noise in the playoffs. On the other hand, a team that starts 0-6 and then rattles off 10 straight is more likely playing better football at the time and could at the very least be a threat to win a playoff game or two. However, the reality is, both cases are extremes and rarely happen, if ever, in the NFL. That's where his defenses of Cleveland and Denver are way off base. Those teams have almost zero shot at the playoffs when you consider the amount of teams they have to leapfrog and tiebreakers, and the very reason is they were absolute garbage in the early part of the season.

It's the same reason why, in the NHL, if you're not at least with a grasp of a playoff spot by the end of November (i.e. US Thanksgiving), you're toast 99% of the time.

- buffalofan19


Cleveland, Chicago, Oakland, NYJ all had winning records in November. The theory is bunk
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
No those are examples of buyers remorse. I guess you skipped over the other names on the list.
- Pegullaville

How do Hayes and Karlsson make this list?
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
If the Flames are considering moving Gaudreau, the Sabres need to get the fax machine warm.

Hall, supposedly, is allowed to discuss extension but I don't see how the Sabres make that work.

The Sabres have the chance to get up to 2nd in the Division with a win tonight.

Will they play with desperation, or will they fall apart?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
If the Flames are considering moving Gaudreau, the Sabres need to get the fax machine warm.

Hall, supposedly, is allowed to discuss extension but I don't see how the Sabres make that work.

The Sabres have the chance to get up to 2nd in the Division with a win tonight.

Will they play with desperation, or will they fall apart?

- thatsapickle



You can get a ticket at Center Ice - 100 level for $35.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
If the Flames are considering moving Gaudreau, the Sabres need to get the fax machine warm.

Hall, supposedly, is allowed to discuss extension but I don't see how the Sabres make that work.

The Sabres have the chance to get up to 2nd in the Division with a win tonight.

Will they play with desperation, or will they fall apart?

- thatsapickle


It would cost a lot to get Gaudreau but I would be all for it.

His contract goes for another 2 more seasons and his cap hit currently is at $6,750,000 per year.

I would want to make sure him and Jack are on the same page and line and then work on an extension ASAP

It would cost Sam Risto and probably a 1st to get him though
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
How do Hayes and Karlsson make this list?
- sbroads24


Those contracts are gross.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
It would cost a lot to get Gaudreau but I would be all for it.

His contract goes for another 2 more seasons and his cap hit currently is at $6,750,000 per year.

I would want to make sure him and Jack are on the same page and line and then work on an extension ASAP

It would cost Sam Risto and probably a 1st to get him though

- Stripes77


I think theyd want Montour instead of Risto, which Botterill wouldn't do

If the deal was Montour, Mitts and a 1st, I'd say yes all day, but they'd want Cozens or UPL instead of Mitts
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:10 AM ET
I think theyd want Montour instead of Risto, which Botterill wouldn't do

If the deal was Montour, Mitts and a 1st, I'd say yes all day, but they'd want Cozens or UPL instead of Mitts

- jcragcrumple



I still might do it. I know UPL is supposed to be great, but I think the scorer provides more value.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
I think theyd want Montour instead of Risto, which Botterill wouldn't do

If the deal was Montour, Mitts and a 1st, I'd say yes all day, but they'd want Cozens or UPL instead of Mitts

- jcragcrumple



I would do that

Montour is good but this team just doesn't win with him in the lineup for some reason

I wouldn't move Cozens
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
im going to have to trade people screenshotting my josh allen posts for me making a screenshot trove of olofsson posts

hes getting really good
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
I would do that

Montour is good but this team just doesn't win with him in the lineup for some reason

I wouldn't move Cozens

- Stripes77


I think Cozens will be good, but I think with Gaudreau, you are trading 3 years of being effective now, versus 3 years 5-10 years from now.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
im going to have to trade people screenshotting my josh allen posts for me making a screenshot trove of olofsson posts

hes getting really good

- robz228



With that shot of his, he's most likely going to be a streaky player. There will be stretches of 8-10 games where he will have 6 goals, and then another stretch of 8-10 games where he will be essentially invisible.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
·
2m
Kyle Okposo is back skating with the team


Why Kyle seriously why?
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
With that shot of his, he's most likely going to be a streaky player. There will be stretches of 8-10 games where he will have 6 goals, and then another stretch of 8-10 games where he will be essentially invisible.
- buffalofan19


Disagree, he may go on 8-10 game scoreless streaks but he will not be invisible. His all around game is very impressive.

Even won a few battles the last couple games, which is where his by far biggest weakness is.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
With that shot of his, he's most likely going to be a streaky player. There will be stretches of 8-10 games where he will have 6 goals, and then another stretch of 8-10 games where he will be essentially invisible.
- buffalofan19



You're referring to the score sheet, right? I only say this, because it looks to me like his play without the puck has looked significantly better as of late.

But a player like him you want on the score sheet as consistently as you can.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
·
2m
Kyle Okposo is back skating with the team


Why Kyle seriously why?

- Stripes77



He won the Paddle Battle?

I don't know what he or the team are thinking.

If he's good to go, which I am not sure how, they have to seem comfortable to make that decision.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
You're referring to the score sheet, right? I only say this, because it looks to me like his play without the puck has looked significantly better as of late.

But a player like him you want on the score sheet as consistently as you can.

- gcomella34


I did mean the score sheet. All the intangibles are great, but if a player like that isn't putting up the numbers, he isn't moving the needle at all.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 2 @ 11:11 AM ET
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
·
2m
Kyle Okposo is back skating with the team


Why Kyle seriously why?

- Stripes77



He's like a bad penny.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 2 @ 11:12 AM ET
Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
·
2m
Kyle Okposo is back skating with the team


Why Kyle seriously why?

- Stripes77


I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has CTE. If he doesn't yet, he's probably will. It's actually really sad he's still playing
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:19 AM ET
https://sports.yahoo.com/...per-likely-020303952.html

Maybe the Thanksgiving game will make him want to come here...
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