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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
He is a good player, but I get his point to an extent. I think Reinhart ends up getting more than he's worth either here or elsewhere. He's the exact type of player that bad teams overpay for in Free Agency. If the Sabres were to sell high on him, I don't see myself losing sleep. That doesn't mean that I want him traded tomorrow or just given away, but you can, I think, make up his production with a savvy enough trade.
- buffalofan19



Nice post 19.

Upgrade sam to a real top linemate. Someone with a scoring touch.

Completely invisible today.

Basically a complementary player.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
You’re that worried about how he looked in a game we won 7-1 ?

Sam is a proven good player in this league
YOU don’t like him... that’s fine
But you’re being overly critical of him

I’d pay him in the neighborhood of 6x6

- jdfitz77


Problem is, I'm pretty sure that's too low.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:59 PM ET
You’re that worried about how he looked in a game we won 7-1 ?

Sam is a proven good player in this league
YOU don’t like him... that’s fine
But you’re being overly critical of him

I’d pay him in the neighborhood of 6x6

- jdfitz77


Good fitz
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 11:03 PM ET
Problem is, I'm pretty sure that's too low.
- buffalofan19


That's my whole premise.

Posters thinking sam is a 8 x8 guy.

Sure, pay sam good $ for good play

Not even close to being a star or consistent game changer.

Watch him dump the puck in, then get outhustled and out battled 9/10 times behind the net
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 11:06 PM ET
You’re that worried about how he looked in a game we won 7-1 ?

Sam is a proven good player in this league
YOU don’t like him... that’s fine
But you’re being overly critical of him

I’d pay him in the neighborhood of 6x6

- jdfitz77



1 goal in the last 11 games.

Playing full time with eichel and #1 pp minutes.
He even starts in ot with eichel.

Not just tonight, the last 11 games.

Sweden was great. Since, average at best.

Eichel is ripping it up despite sam
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:07 PM ET
Problem is, I'm pretty sure that's too low.
- buffalofan19


Could be
Salaries kinda took a leap forward last year or 2

7ish isn’t out of the question
And for a 25goal, 60point player...
that’s not outlandish by today’s standards
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Dec 2 @ 11:08 PM ET
Is it me or was John Gurtler an underrated play by play announcer? One thing is certain, nobody could call out a “First down Buffalo” at Rich Stadium like that guy.
- Hatboro_Swords


I thought he was terrible. I still remember a newspaper article that correctly described him as dry toast...
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 11:10 PM ET
That's my whole premise.

Posters thinking sam is a 8 x8 guy.

Sure, pay sam good $ for good play

Not even close to being a star or consistent game changer.

Watch him dump the puck in, then get outhustled and out battled 9/10 times behind the net

- Boss34


We have one top end player.

Depending on the week you can flip flop Sam and Skinner on who the second best forward is on this team. They are both top 6 forwards on any roster in the NHL.

Eichel, Dahlin, Cozens, Joker, 1st rounder this year would be my only untouchables.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:11 PM ET
1 goal in the last 11 games.

Playing full time with eichel and #1 pp minutes.
He even starts in ot with eichel.

Not just tonight, the last 11 games.

Sweden was great. Since, average at best.

Eichel is ripping it up despite sam

- Boss34


If Eichel is gonna be your comparison,
we shouldn’t pay to keep anyone

U wanna use an 11game sample size,
but I’ll point to his overall career
He’s a proven 25ish goal scorer

There’s only 2 other guys on this team we can say that about

U wanna trade him for a 30+ scorer?
Ok, I’ll listen to that
But that guy is also gonna cost, and likely have some kind of issues if he’s available
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 2 @ 11:13 PM ET
Could be
Salaries kinda took a leap forward last year or 2

7ish isn’t out of the question
And for a 25goal, 60point player...
that’s not outlandish by today’s standards

- jdfitz77


I would think his comparable would be the Nylander deal. So yea accounting for inflation probably looking at anywhere between $7-$7.5M
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Dec 2 @ 11:15 PM ET
24+ hours ago, 3ER only one talking about possibility of Bills winning the division if Texans beat the Pats. Archive doesn’t lie. Now that it happened, everyone thinking about it. Always ahead of the crowd. If it happens, it most likely means Texans and Ravens on Bills 2020 schedule vs. Titans and Stillers. That’s tough and have to prove you now belong with the Class of the Conference. Yinz will be talking about it tomorrow.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:15 PM ET
I would think his comparable would be the Nylander deal. So yea accounting for inflation probably looking at anywhere between $7-$7.5M
- Pegullaville


Sounds about right to me

If Sam is traded,
I’d be looking for a heck of a player in return

Not every good player leaps out at you
It’s ok to not be spectacular
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:17 PM ET
24+ hours ago, 3ER only one talking about possibility of Bills winning the division if Texans beat the Pats. Archive doesn’t lie. Now that it happened, everyone thinking about it. Always ahead of the crowd. If it happens, it most likely means Texans and Ravens on Bills 2020 schedule vs. Titans and Stillers. That’s tough and have to prove you now belong with the Class of the Conference. Yinz will be talking about it tomorrow.
- Hatboro_Swords


What do u & GMTM talk about when you skype?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 2 @ 11:19 PM ET
Do u have a link where u heard a team was given permission to talk with Hall?
- jdfitz77

Just a rumor, and it was right here on Hockeybuzz, from EK, that's why I asked 89, trust him more than EK
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:20 PM ET
Just a rumor, and it was right here on Hockeybuzz, from EK, that's why I asked 89, trust him more than EK
- Buff36


Don’t believe anything EK says

It wouldn’t even make sense for Jersey to let anyone talk to Hall at this stage unless they were blown away with an offer
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:20 PM ET
When are u gonna come out with what your relationship to GMTM was/is?
- jdfitz77

They were lovers. Passionate lovers.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:21 PM ET
Sounds about right to me

If Sam is traded,
I’d be looking for a heck of a player in return

Not every good player leaps out at you
It’s ok to not be spectacular

- jdfitz77

If you're paying a player above $7 million, he had better be spectacular at something.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 11:24 PM ET
We have one top end player.

Depending on the week you can flip flop Sam and Skinner on who the second best forward is on this team. They are both top 6 forwards on any roster in the NHL.

Eichel, Dahlin, Cozens, Joker, 1st rounder this year would be my only untouchables.

- Pegullaville



Oloffson is better than sam.
179 picks later.

lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:26 PM ET
Trade Reinhart plus for a top 6 contract with 3,4 left in the 5-6.5 range. top winger for Eichel. 2 C will be Cozens soon enough and Mitts can be also moved to wing then
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 2 @ 11:27 PM ET
Good post:

3 for 16
4 for 22

5.5-5.75 and it's a reasonable contract.

He was drafted to be a center. Failed miserably.
Now he coasts with eich daddy.

- Boss34


Funny that the people who really like him also don't want to pay him close to what he'll be asking. Anyone suggesting 6m'ish has concerns about him as well. I've never heard anyone suggest a Skinner-like deal.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 2 @ 11:27 PM ET
24+ hours ago, 3ER only one talking about possibility of Bills winning the division if Texans beat the Pats. Archive doesn’t lie. Now that it happened, everyone thinking about it. Always ahead of the crowd. If it happens, it most likely means Texans and Ravens on Bills 2020 schedule vs. Titans and Stillers. That’s tough and have to prove you now belong with the Class of the Conference. Yinz will be talking about it tomorrow.
- Hatboro_Swords



AFC north at home
2nd place Bill's
2nd place Pittsburgh or Cleveland at buffalo
Most likely the steelers

AFC south on the road
Bill's at Tennessee
Bill's at colts
Most likely at titans.

3ER suggesting the Bill's win the division?
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 2 @ 11:28 PM ET
Sounds about right to me

If Sam is traded,
I’d be looking for a heck of a player in return

Not every good player leaps out at you
It’s ok to not be spectacular

- jdfitz77


Hall?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 2 @ 11:28 PM ET
Don’t believe anything EK says

It wouldn’t even make sense for Jersey to let anyone talk to Hall at this stage unless they were blown away with an offer

- jdfitz77

I know, that's why I asked 89 if he had heard anything, he brought up Hall's name earlier
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:30 PM ET
Oloffson is better than sam.
179 picks later.

- Boss34


IF this is true...
it’s a good thing, not a bad one!

27games is too soon to say

Sam is a good player
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 2 @ 11:31 PM ET
I know, that's why I asked 89 if he had heard anything, he brought up Hall's name earlier
- Buff36

I didn't hear that but it doesn't mean it wasn't us or wasn't mentioned, I know they have talked 3 times.
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