hed have better numbers if sobotka was still there creating space
- robz228

Maybe he would, he had more goals playing with him, then he's had since Sobotka been hurt

Really? You think jbotts needs a few wingers?

1st I've heard of it? I'd say oloffson and now asplund could help move Casey to a wing spot permanently.

But, go on... and on and on.
Hey okposo and his tradeless contract are back.

What's your feelings on Larsson and girgs?
- Boss34

Actually I've been very complimentary of them lately. The past 5 or so games have been good. They seemed to take a turn after Lazar beat that dude up. They woke up and said "we gotta save our phoney baloney jobs"

The funny part about the entire convo is Krueger has said he has Skinner on a different line because he's one of the few who can drive offense and he wants balanced scoring.

If Skinner was so mediocre he'd have what, 5 goals maybe with the 2nd and 3rd liners he's played wth?
- sbroads24

Never said he was mediocre, just want him to cash in on some of those chances he's had.

Maybe he would, he had more goals playing with him, then he's had since Sobotka been hurt
- Buff36

OH MY

Maybe he would, he had more goals playing with him, then he's had since Sobotka been hurt
- Buff36

Correlation =/= causation

Mojo hasn't been available. Well now he is but Skinner gets larry

Never said he was mediocre, just want him to cash in on some of those chances he's had.
- Buff36

I wasn't referring to you.

The funny part about the entire convo is Krueger has said he has Skinner on a different line because he's one of the few who can drive offense and he wants balanced scoring.

If Skinner was so mediocre he'd have what, 5 goals maybe with the 2nd and 3rd liners he's played wth?
- sbroads24

1.) Sign player to $9m per
2.) Play him with the worst offensive talent on team
3.) Still has 10 goals
4.) Complain that he has no assists

1.) Sign player to $9m per
2.) Play him with the worst offensive talent on team
3.) Still has 10 goals
4.) Complain that he has no assists
- jcragcrumple

Once Johansson went down, he should have been put with Mittelstadt. To me, anything else is inexcusable.

The funny part about the entire convo is Krueger has said he has Skinner on a different line because he's one of the few who can drive offense and he wants balanced scoring.

If Skinner was so mediocre he'd have what, 5 goals maybe with the 2nd and 3rd liners he's played wth?
- sbroads24

Maybe if Skinner could put together back to back 30 goal seasons and average more than 54 points a year we wouldn’t be diving deep into analytical discussion’s to determine whether or not he’s worth the “elite” money he’s being paid right now.

Maybe if Skinner could put together back to back 30 goal seasons and average more than 54 points a year we wouldn’t be diving deep into analytical discussion’s to determine whether or not he’s worth the “elite” money he’s being paid right now.
- Pegullaville

He's on pace to do just that. Playing with scrubs this time

He's on pace to do just that. Playing with scrubs this time
- jcragcrumple

5. Throw out an arbitrary number like "His last 50 games" or back to back 30 goal seasons to make point

Actually I've been very complimentary of them lately. The past 5 or so games have been good. They seemed to take a turn after Lazar beat that dude up. They woke up and said "we gotta save our phoney baloney jobs"
- jcragcrumple

🏋️‍♂️🙂 good post

5. Throw out an arbitrary number like "His last 50 games" or back to back 30 goal seasons to make point
- sbroads24

Yea I mean actual point production takes a back seat to expected goals, takeaways and penalties drawn.

The team who wins the game scores more then the other team. Not the team who takes away the puck more or draws more penalties.

But yes I get it, using factual evidence over the sample size of an entire career isn’t enough for you.

PP goals don’t matter, SHG’s don’t matter, assists don’t matter.

Anything else ?

Yea I mean actual point production takes a back seat to expected goals, takeaways and penalties drawn.

The team who wins the game scores more then the other team. Not the team who takes away the puck more or draws more penalties.

But yes I get it, using factual evidence over the sample size of an entire career isn’t enough for you.

PP goals don’t matter, SHG’s don’t matter, assists don’t matter.

Anything else ?
- Pegullaville

Here's factual evidence -

When Jeff Skinner is on the ice, the team he plays for scores more goals than they give up, controls play, controls scoring chances, and overall is better, than when he is not on the ice.

And it's been that way his entire career

And I can find you a bunch of players with more assists who you cannot say the same thing about

skinner is not blue collar enough

have you seen his cute smile? get him out of here

1.) Sign player to $9m per
2.) Play him with the worst offensive talent on team
3.) Still has 10 goals
4.) Complain that he has no assists
- jcragcrumple

This really started with that Reinhart has no assists or fewer than Laine who I would trade Reinhart for I was insinuating and also stating he, Laine, is not a one-trick pony as was stated by our analytics experts on the site. Of course, it would take more than Reinhart for Laine even if it is at all possible since they did talk about him in the offseason. This should sit well.

skinner is not blue collar enough

have you seen his cute smile? get him out of here
- robz228

Dude im totally going to be right about his contract in 5 years, so I am going to diminish everything he does now until then

Here's factual evidence -

When Jeff Skinner is on the ice, the team he plays for scores more goals than they give up, controls play, controls scoring chances, and overall is better, than when he is not on the ice.

And it's been that way his entire career

And I can find you a bunch of players with more assists who you cannot say the same thing about
- sbroads24

How many of those players make $9M+ ?

A few things come to mind

https://yourbias.is/the-availability-heuristic

and

https://yourbias.is/the-backfire-effect

and

https://yourbias.is/confirmation-bias

Here's factual evidence -

When Jeff Skinner is on the ice, the team he plays for scores more goals than they give up, controls play, controls scoring chances, and overall is better, than when he is not on the ice.

And it's been that way his entire career

And I can find you a bunch of players with more assists who you cannot say the same thing about
- sbroads24

Cite your sources, words mean little but opinion

skinner is not blue collar enough

have you seen his cute smile? get him out of here
- robz228

So he's good at scoring goals. So what?

Is he good at NOT scoring goals? Not so much

Cite your sources, words mean little but opinion
- GilPerreault11

https://owl.purdue.edu/ow...guide/general_format.html

This will help.

skinner is not blue collar enough

have you seen his cute smile? get him out of here
- robz228

15 pts, 9 mil. 2nd line PP. He plays with the studs on the PP, well did until he was demoted to the 2nd PP and nutin'.

So he's good at scoring goals. So what?

Is he good at NOT scoring goals? Not so much


- jcragcrumple

Non Sequitur.

But humorous.

I will allow.

This really started with that Reinhart has no assists or fewer than Laine who I would trade Reinhart for I was insinuating and also stating he, Laine, is not a one-trick pony as was stated by our analytics experts on the site. Of course, it would take more than Reinhart for Laine even if it is at all possible since they did talk about him in the offseason. This should sit well.
- GilPerreault11

Technically he is a one trick pony still, but now it's a different trick for the same pony. He doesn't score at a generational rate anymore, but he's got some assists through 26 games