I expect more from everybody on the team, not just Skinner and Rhino. But those players are our supposed core players, and should be held to a higher standard. If that's wrong for me to think that way, then so be it.
- Buff36

Okposo, Scandella, Miller and others make more than Reinhart. Right now he's making a little over $3m. He's currently outperforming his contract. When he signs the next one, go for it

Okposo, Scandella, Miller and others make more than Reinhart. Right now he's making a little over $3m. He's currently outperforming his contract. When he signs the next one, go for it
- jcragcrumple

I don't have to wait for the next one, and don't really include any of those guys as are core players.

I don't care about the contract, already stated that, I care that he is not cashing in on his chances, which he has had. I really don't care about your Diminishing return bullpoop, score goals, you have had plenty of chances, that's what I care about and the Sabres winning games, because if he would have cashed in on some of those chances we would have one more games. I guess I just expect more from are good players.
- Buff36

But you do, you just posted you "want him to live up to his contract".
He will never live up to that on a consistent basis., he is overpaid.

He is producing at exactly his 9 year average says to expect.

Law of Diminishing Returns - "used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested." The "Benefits" in this case is G/A/Pts. The "Investment" is his annual contract.
Investing more, does not deliver the same rate of return.

Skinner is on pace for 32 Gs and 18As for 50pts.
His Avsrage over last 4 full seasons (his best) is guess what..32 Goals...holy crap that is friggin amazing. Top 5 in Game Winning Goals, and Game Tying Goals over 5 years...GAMER!

Take the loss.
Move on to Vesey, Sheary, Girgs, Karsson, Mitts, Johansson ... those are your underperformers.

Go get a guy like Oshie, 5.75 a year for another 5 years I think it is. Caps may have to move contracts, they did with Stephenson this week.
- SABRES 89

You mentioned the Ducks and Kings.

Toffoli (with extension) it Silvferberg wouldn’t break the bank. Kase would be nice as well.

Colin Miller and a small sweetener should be able to get the ball at least rolling there.

I expect more from everybody on the team, not just Skinner and Rhino. But those players are our supposed core players, and should be held to a higher standard. If that's wrong for me to think that way, then so be it.
- Buff36

Expect nothing... You'll probably live a longer, healthier life.

Expect nothing... You'll probably live a longer, healthier life.
- jochfr

Oh I have lived a long life, and enjoyed it, just want more from my team and certain players. But it won't make or break me if the Sabres suck for another 10 yrs. Guess it's a bad thing to want more.

You mentioned the Ducks and Kings.

Toffoli (with extension) it Silvferberg wouldn’t break the bank. Kase would be nice as well.

Colin Miller and a small sweetener should be able to get the ball at least rolling there.
- Pegullaville

Toffoli is a LW

But you do, you just posted you "want him to live up to his contract".
He will never live up to that on a consistent basis., he is overpaid.

He is producing at exactly his 9 year average says to expect.

Law of Diminishing Returns - "used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested." The "Benefits" in this case is G/A/Pts. The "Investment" is his annual contract.
Investing more, does not deliver the same rate of return.

Skinner is on pace for 32 Gs and 18As for 50pts.
His Avsrage over last 4 full seasons (his best) is guess what..32 Goals...holy crap that is friggin amazing. Top 5 in Game Winning Goals, and Game Tying Goals over 5 years...GAMER!

Take the loss.
Move on to Vesey, Sheary, Girgs, Karsson, Mitts, Johansson ... those are your underperformers.
- IonSabres

Like I said don't care about your bullpoop, I still want more from him, and Rhino and who ever puts on a Sabres uniform. Rhino and Skinner are the core, so I expect more. If you don't like what I think then don't answer my post.

You’re out with friends,
having beers & wings,
and watching hockey...

And you’re on your phone,
and on Hockeybuzz

WOW
That’s pretty sad dude
Put away your phone & go have fun

Next time,
just whine about Skinner to your real life friends and spare us all for a few hours
Thanks in advance
- jdfitz77

Hall is a good player but we need a 2nd line center and a RW IMO, I just don't see paying another guy 10 mill a year is going to help us move forward. But that's my opinion.
- SABRES 89

i totally agree with you. #1 need is a Center, Then winger.. I really think that if we can somehow get those 2 players in place we will be set for years...

Toffoli is a LW
- SABRES 89

Rakell

Rakell
- hehateme

Please and thanks.

Oh I have lived a long life, and enjoyed it, just want more from my team and certain players. But it won't make or break me if the Sabres suck for another 10 yrs. Guess it's a bad thing to want more.
- Buff36

Greedy

I don't care about the contract, already stated that, I care that he is not cashing in on his chances, which he has had. I really don't care about your Diminishing return bullpoop, score goals, you have had plenty of chances, that's what I care about and the Sabres winning games, because if he would have cashed in on some of those chances we would have one more games. I guess I just expect more from are good players.
- Buff36

Except he is, at the rate he has been his entire career.

I don't get it

Your opinion is spot on.
It is bad asset management to waste them and $10m per year on a guy who
Plays an average of 70 games per year
Produces an average of 74 pts per year
Shoots at 9.7%
Is a LW, when 2C and RW are obvious holes in the top 6.

Take those assets and go pry loose a 2C
- IonSabres

Where are you getting these numbers?

He's broken 70 points twice in his career. He averages 57 points per season.

Oh I have lived a long life, and enjoyed it, just want more from my team and certain players. But it won't make or break me if the Sabres suck for another 10 yrs. Guess it's a bad thing to want more.
- Buff36

Dude, you are a good poster on here, no doubt.
We all want the same as you, for the team to be better, ho one is saying you are wrong in that regard.
We view things differently on the Skinner issue, and it isn't only you.
Who doesn't want more, poop I want more from Jack, lol!
I would focus my energy on the guys actually underperforming, and there are several of them.

If Skinner is shooting at his 9 year average, as he is this season, then to increase his output, he needs more opportunity..so go find him a good 2C who can drive more opportunities... find a solid 2RW who can drive more AS WELL AS taking more focus off Jeff.

There is our answer.

You mentioned the Ducks and Kings.

Toffoli (with extension) it Silvferberg wouldn’t break the bank. Kase would be nice as well.

Colin Miller and a small sweetener should be able to get the ball at least rolling there.
- Pegullaville

I like Ondrej Kase as well, but he has had a middling start to this season.

Where are you getting these numbers?

He's broken 70 points twice in his career. He averages 57 points per season.
- Lunaion

I gave the benefit of doubt, using his 4 best season of the last 6 or so.

Like I said don't care about your bullpoop, I still want more from him, and Rhino and who ever puts on a Sabres uniform. Rhino and Skinner are the core, so I expect more. If you don't like what I think then don't answer my post.
- Buff36

Facts truly have no place here, lol.
Good day.

I gave the benefit of doubt, using his 4 best season of the last 6 or so.
- IonSabres

It's a big benefit. I don't think his numbers match his reputation. He had 1 big year, and no coincidence, he completely went off on the PP.

I don't see how you build a good team spending that much money on the wings.

Except he is, at the rate he has been his entire career.

I don't get it
- sbroads24

He’s never been worth 11% of a teams salary cap either though.

Except he is, at the rate he has been his entire career.

I don't get it
- sbroads24

I don't hate the guy boards, he is one of are best players, think people are taking me in the wrong way. I just want more, he has what 3 goals in the last 15 games, 5 in 20. I just want him to cash in on his chances. Because he has had a lot of them in those 20 games.

I like Ondrej Kase as well, but he has had a middling start to this season.
- kingcong39

Buy low

You’re out with friends,
having beers & wings,
and watching hockey...

And you’re on your phone,
and on Hockeybuzz

WOW
That’s pretty sad dude
Put away your phone & go have fun

Next time,
just whine about Skinner to your real life friends and spare us all for a few hours
Thanks in advance
- jdfitz77

It takes all of 5 seconds to make a hockey buzz post dude. I watched the whole game, made New Years plans, ate a pound of wings, had a pint and made a few posts.

Multitasking is not difficult.

He’s never been worth 11% of a teams salary cap either though.
- Pegullaville

Omg make it stop