This

Jesus christ, I dont care what round a useful player is taken in. I dont care if a better player was taken after.

Is he a useful player? Yes.


Move onnnnnnnnn

Let's get more good players
- jcragcrumple

I use him and a D while he still has good value for an upgrade for a better forward. Sometimes trades are used to upgrade talent and not add to your inconsistent talent.

You are paying for production, he to me even if you want to say Diminishing returns is not hitting that production, no matter who he has played with, he has has plenty of scoring chances. I am not saying to get rid of him, just want more from him
- Buff36

He isn't a machine, you can't just turn a dial for greater output. He is who he is.
I think everyone agrees he us overpaid by ~$1m.
His 8 year average shot % is 10.7%
2019 ytd is 10.8%

YOU PEOPLE need to adjust your expectations to reality.

Well yea I like the 2017 Altima I drive it’s pretty dependable. But if it costed as much as BMW 3 series I’d be discontent.
- Pegullaville

The Nissan Altima is a Toyota Celica for poseurs.

I use him and a D while he still has good value for an upgrade for a better forward. Sometimes trades are used to upgrade talent and not add to your inconsistent talent.
- GilPerreault11

He's a consistent 20-25 goal scorer with an underrated 2-way game. He is very consistent, and his point totals have gone up every year. He's a point and a half off his pace from last year. Projected for 58 right now. I'm far more interested in accruing additional forward talent than subtracting him

- homiedclown

He’s not playing. Sadly. Probably still 6-8 weeks out. Not sure who’s left for them to look at? McCan although I don’t see that... gally? That’ll be an interesting scouting report....

same can be said for 15 other sabres


yet all we hear

skinner
reinhart

blah blah blah


reinhart
skinner
- homiedclown

They make money and are supposed to be part of the core. Or should I complain about half of the roster that probably won’t be here next year in all likelihood ?

He isn't a machine, you can't just turn a dial for greater output. He is who he is.
I think everyone agrees he us overpaid by ~$1m.
His 8 year average shot % is 10.7%
2019 ytd is 10.8%

YOU PEOPLE need to adjust your expectations to reality.
- IonSabres

YOU PEOPLE need to raise your expectations on him and everybody who plays on this team.

Sometimes you get Eichel, sometimes you get Nolan Patrick

We got Reinhart. It's fine. He's good.
- jcragcrumple

Reinhart, Eichel, Barkov, Laine, Svechnikov, Kakko, Byfield, Patrick.

So yea at least we didn’t get Patrick I guess...

They make money and are supposed to be part of the core. Or should I complain about half of the roster that probably won’t be here next year in all likelihood ?
- Pegullaville

You could also try NOT COMPLAINING!- the rest of us.

He's a consistent 20-25 goal scorer with an underrated 2-way game. He is very consistent, and his point totals have gone up every year. He's a point and a half off his pace from last year. Projected for 58 right now. I'm far more interested in accruing additional forward talent than subtracting him
- jcragcrumple

I'm sure you said the same thing during the rising and maintaining of mediocrity in the later Darcy core years with Vanek, Miller, Pominville, Roy, Connolly etc and that none of them could be touched either. Sometimes teams need upgrades in talent. The only untouchables for me are Jack, Dahlin, Cozens, UPL, this year's 1st and maybe another prospect or two. The Joker would cost a lot, and Ulmark isn't going anywhere. The rest of them if an upgrade could be had I'd listen for a trade or two.

Reinhart, Eichel, Barkov, Laine, Svechnikov, Kakko, Byfield, Patrick.

So yea at least we didn’t get Patrick I guess...
- Pegullaville

Page after page of this nonsense and Reinhart is 7 points behind Laine and 8 behind Svech. And he's ahead of Laine on goals

This is a horrible hill to die on

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I'm sure you said the same thing during the rising and maintaining of mediocrity in the later Darcy core years with Vanek, Miller, Pominville, Roy, Connolly etc and that none of them could be touched either. Sometimes teams need upgrades in talent. The only untouchables for me are Jack, Dahlin, Cozens, UPL, this year's 1st and maybe another prospect or two. The Joker would cost a lot, and Ulmark isn't going anywhere. The rest of them if an upgrade could be had I'd listen for a trade or two.
- GilPerreault11

Have to agree with that, but stop complaining it's not allowed

They make money and are supposed to be part of the core. Or should I complain about half of the roster that probably won’t be here next year in all likelihood ?
- Pegullaville

Why not take a crack at Mittlestat and Tage not living up to expectations.

They both cost first round capital and neither has made *any* meaningful contribution in the NHL well beyond 2 years after their draft class.

That’s very precious draft capital we spent to get essentially ZERO.

YOU PEOPLE need to raise your expectations on him and everybody who plays on this team.
- Buff36

Jack Eichel was once compared to Derek Roy.

Wasn’t worth $10M. Was underachieving until 10 games ago.

The stuff you would have read the last 3 years would have made you cringe.

Saying anything about Reinhart or Skinner though boy watch out.

The expectations for Eichel are some reason vastly different than the ones for Reinhart despite the same draft status.

Page after page of this nonsense and Reinhart is 7 points behind Laine and 8 behind Svech. And he's ahead of Laine on goals

This is a horrible hill to die on
- jcragcrumple

I tried to post Laine’s RAPM chart from this year.

Still bad

They make money and are supposed to be part of the core. ?
- Pegullaville

we scratch players that make more money then reinhart

Page after page of this nonsense and Reinhart is 7 points behind Laine and 8 behind Svech. And he's ahead of Laine on goals

This is a horrible hill to die on
- jcragcrumple

That's what message boards are for, especially if you want more from a your team and players that hasn't made the playoffs in a long time.

I'm sure you said the same thing during the rising and maintaining of mediocrity in the later Darcy core years with Vanek, Miller, Pominville, Roy, Connolly etc and that none of them could be touched either. Sometimes teams need upgrades in talent. The only untouchables for me are Jack, Dahlin, Cozens, UPL, this year's 1st and maybe another prospect or two. The Joker would cost a lot, and Ulmark isn't going anywhere. The rest of them if an upgrade could be had I'd listen for a trade or two.
- GilPerreault11

My personal belief is that those two never reached their full potential because the Sabres were never able to find a solid 1C. They were really good players who did the best they could considering the circumstances

So that's fair, I am an apologist for them

YOU PEOPLE need to raise your expectations on him and everybody who plays on this team.
- Buff36

My personal belief is that those two never reached their full potential because the Sabres were never able to find a solid 1C. They were really good players who did the best they could considering the circumstances

So that's fair, I am an apologist for them
- jcragcrumple

That Pomminville sure does make you feel ashamed about the ERod Jersey I bet.

Have to agree with that, but stop complaining it's not allowed
- Buff36

Yeah, I know but it just so happens I am limp when it comes to Reinhart and Skinner. Not sure having both of them in our top 6 will get us to the promised land.

That's what message boards are for, especially if you want more from a your team and players that hasn't made the playoffs in a long time.
- Buff36

Were singling our players on pace for 32 even strength goals, and another guy on pace for a solid season though.

Why are we not on Hutton, Rodrigues, Okposo, Sheary?

Reinhart and Skinner are legitimately like 2 of the 6 really good players we have

The expectations for Eichel are some reason vastly different than the ones for Reinhart despite the same draft status.
- Pegullaville

jack was coming into the draft as a generational player

sam was not



each draft is different


some years you get jack

some years sam

some years ryan murray

some years cam barker

Were singling our players on pace for 32 even strength goals, and another guy on pace for a solid season though.

Why are we not on Hutton, Rodrigues, Okposo, Sheary?

Reinhart and Skinner are legitimately like 2 of the 6 really good players we have
- sbroads24

I like this version of sbroads