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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: The New Jersey Devils are shopping Miles Wood
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willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Dec 5 @ 1:44 PM ET
Wood and Gusev for Gagner (cap reasons), Puljujärvi and Broberg.
- Wildschwein

I would certainly sign off on that as much as I don't want to trade Gusev.
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Dec 5 @ 1:44 PM ET
Wood and Gusev for Gagner (cap reasons), Puljujärvi and Broberg.
- Wildschwein

Is broberg broken ? Seems like good value for Woody ( hate that you included the goose though lol )
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 1:51 PM ET
Is broberg broken ? Seems like good value for Woody ( hate that you included the goose though lol )
- Devilish4


No, but the Oilers currently have Bear, Jones, Bouchard, Lagesson, Samorukov and Broberg for rookie/prospect defensive depth. Thus I’d move him if it meant Gusev comes to the Oil.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
I would certainly sign off on that as much as I don't want to trade Gusev.
- willschulme


Gusev has game, just needs structure. I’d love to see him as an Oiler.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Dec 5 @ 1:52 PM ET
Dude we're having Simmonds, Hall (I assume), Greene and Vats coming off with only Bratt due for a raise. The caps set to go up too. We are cap flexible.

And even if we weren't, 3 mil isn't making a difference

- willschulme


wasted millions is wasted millions
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Dec 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Wood and Gusev for Gagner (cap reasons), Puljujärvi and Broberg.
- Wildschwein

What the (frank), Schwein. Your trade making privileges are revoked
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
What the (frank), Schwein. Your trade making privileges are revoked
- MaximumBone


Gagner = cap dump
Puljujärvi = has value, but refuses to play for the Oilers
Broberg = high end D prospect

For

Wood = energy bottom 6 winger with tolerable contract
Gusev = affordable top 6 winger for Nuge

Sorry Bone. I’d do it.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Dec 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
EK doing his annual “What garbage will your team give up for Hall” edition.
- RubberBiscuitz


Yeah, it's a joke what people are offering. Lots of older players or the crap they don't even want on their own teams. Only a few truly made sense


MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
Gagner = cap dump
Puljujärvi = has value, but refuses to play for the Oilers
Broberg = high end D prospect

For

Wood = energy bottom 6 winger with tolerable contract
Gusev = affordable top 6 winger for Nuge

Sorry Bone. I’d do it.

- Wildschwein

Gagner = cap dump that's off the books at year end
Puljujärvi = has value, but refuses to play for the Oilers
Broberg = high end D prospect

For

Wood = bottom 6 winger that negates the cap savings from Gagner
Gusev = affordable top 6 winger for Nuge that's unlikely to stay

We burn 7.25mil of our cap space next year for a top-6 winger that's far from a sure thing to produce- let alone stay after producing- and a bottom-6 winger on a 2.75mil contract for two more years after this one. Making such a trade all but assures we wouldn't be able to add a proven top-6 winger in the offseason and almost certainly guarantees Kassian will be hitting UFA.

I see no benefit to making such a trade as wingers as good or better than Gusev will be available as UFAs without needing to give up our recent top-10 pick. There's probably better available for less in-season.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
When you said a fast skater that creates a ton of opportunities but could not finish then, I assumed you were talking about Hall, not Wood.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:41 PM ET
Yeah, it's a joke what people are offering. Lots of older players or the crap they don't even want on their own teams. Only a few truly made sense
- Crushers68

It's the exact same as listener calls on sports radio but in text form.
PADevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Phoenixville, PA
Joined: 12.05.2019

Dec 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
I understand why Miles is being shopped, but i disagree with the decision.

U can't teach speed. you can teach positioning, can work on shooting, build chemistry and teamwork.

Miles underdevelopment is exactly why Hynes was fired. Same for Bratt, Zacha, John Q, Noesen, list goes on...

At year start of year 5 , system should working and majority of players development would coincide with the system. Neither happen.

That proven veterans have come in and not only struggled but are 90% shell of their former selves. Shows that Hynes could not take the next step in coaching.

That's just my two cents

Hope Wood is not traded, but if so, the GM that does get him for a discount will look like a genius in the long run.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Dec 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
It doesn't matter what the crazy offers are. The only thing that matters is what Ray Shero is able to get for Taylor Hall...

I'm feeling pessimistic about it. I think Taylor Hall is totally intent on becoming a free agent and not interested in signing an extension with a new team.

I don't blame him for that. Just saying it doesn't help us.
cu45161
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.26.2016

Dec 5 @ 3:10 PM ET
You know things are bad when i'm agreeing with queenie on everything
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

Dec 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
The Taylor Hall trade will be much more simple then most of the garbage offers on Eks blog. Top prospect, 1st rounder and additional later round picks is the likely return. Whoever can come closest to that wins. If a roster player is coming back it's likely a top 4 dman with a 1st rounder and additional picks.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Dec 5 @ 3:38 PM ET
eh. I'm neutral on this. I wonder what we'll even get for him. Maybe package him with Hall? Could we get a 3rd for him?

As great as Hall is, IF the package is stellar, then it's worth trading his 28yr old 10mil cap hit. . right? It's not easy to draft a Taylor Hall..
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Dec 5 @ 3:54 PM ET
eh. I'm neutral on this. I wonder what we'll even get for him. Maybe package him with Hall? Could we get a 3rd for him?

As great as Hall is, IF the package is stellar, then it's worth trading his 28yr old 10mil cap hit. . right? It's not easy to draft a Taylor Hall..

- MartysBetter88


At this point its a matter of when, and not if, we trade Hall. I assume Shero has set a deadline and when that day comes he'll take the best offer, unless he has his socks blown off with an offer sooner. He's not going to risk losing Hall for nothing.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Dec 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Imagine the team without Hall, Greene, the UFAs... name your captain and assistant.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Dec 5 @ 4:05 PM ET
Imagine the team without Hall, Greene, the UFAs... name your captain and assistant.
- Leniwm1


Zajac, Palms, and Nico most likely. Those 3 are already in the rotation/injury fill-ins with the As. Maybe Coleman gets a letter?
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 5 @ 4:11 PM ET
The Taylor Hall trade will be much more simple then most of the garbage offers on Eks blog. Top prospect, 1st rounder and additional later round picks is the likely return. Whoever can come closest to that wins. If a roster player is coming back it's likely a top 4 dman with a 1st rounder and additional picks.
- devilspep

Neither Pacioretty or stone got an A prospect and a first, why should Hall? Oh and they signed contracts.

Hall with get either a 1st, B prospect and maybe another player OR an A prospect, 2nd and maybe another pick or player.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Dec 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
Neither Pacioretty or stone got an A prospect and a first, why should Hall? Oh and they signed contracts.

Hall with get either a 1st, B prospect and maybe another player OR A prospect, 2nd and maybe another pick or player.

- KINGS67


because neither Pacioretty or Stone won MVP 2 seasons ago.
ryant601
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.02.2018

Dec 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
Neither Pacioretty or stone got an A prospect and a first, why should Hall? Oh and they signed contracts.

Hall with get either a 1st, B prospect and maybe another player OR A prospect, 2nd and maybe another pick or player.

- KINGS67


I think you're right, likely A prospect and a 2nd with a 1st condition with sign/deep run. That said - Hall is more dynamic than patches or Stone, but less durable which is an important asterisk.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
because neither Pacioretty or Stone won MVP 2 seasons ago.
- MartysBetter88

Hall is back down to earth. He’ll continue with his 60 point seasons, maybe throw in one 75 point season.

We’ll see

Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Dec 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
Zajac, Palms, and Nico most likely. Those 3 are already in the rotation/injury fill-ins with the As. Maybe Coleman gets a letter?
- vlongo4419


I think Zajac because he's oldest but only one year left abd he wont be resigned.

C Palms, A Nico, A Coleman
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Dec 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think you're right, likely A prospect and a 2nd with a 1st condition with sign/deep run. That said - Hall is more dynamic than patches or Stone, but less durable which is an important asterisk.
- ryant601

I just don’t believe they’ll get both a 1st and an A prospect. Especially not a 2020 1st.

I would be livid if my team gave up a dynamic prospect and a 2020 first that could arguably be one of the best drafts since 2003
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