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Speaks volumes to me what the coaches think of the other alternatives that they had to dress 7 dman. If you cant trust stewart for 1 game playing 7 minutes or what not than that’s not good. Long term clearly he isn’t any answer but 1 game.To call up the other player and sit him is also baffling.
Playing 7 dman is not smart imo. If say he gets hurt your putting yourself in a bad and unneeded spot.
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I cannot believe what Joe Thornton did to Mrazek. You should show some respect to opposite goaltender. It is never fair 1 on 1. Mrazek was absolutely right to be pissed off after Joe's late poke check as the puck was frozen. In old times you would be scared like poop to do that to goaltender after play like that. And then he even crosses a line and punches him in a face?? when Mrazek stands up to him yet clearly not seeing what could come back.
Absolute disgrace from Thornton and shame noone bit the poop out of him. - Keith25
There are far more vicious punches thrown than what Thornton hit him with. Yes thornton poked, but mrazek then slashed him and went to get in his face. i think Mrazek was hurt worse when his head hit the ice. |
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There are far more vicious punches thrown than what Thornton hit him with. Yes thornton poked, but mrazek then slashed him and went to get in his face. i think Mrazek was hurt worse when his head hit the ice. - Peter Richards
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jmatchett383
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There are far more vicious punches thrown than what Thornton hit him with. Yes thornton poked, but mrazek then slashed him and went to get in his face. i think Mrazek was hurt worse when his head hit the ice. - Peter Richards
I agree. Mrazek, goalie or not, got up and started coming at him. Thornton figured he'd rather NOT be the one to get punched first after a guy just threw a wild slash at him.
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mickel25
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I agree. Mrazek, goalie or not, got up and started coming at him. Thornton figured he'd rather NOT be the one to get punched first after a guy just threw a wild slash at him.
But yeah, this would have incited a riot 15 years ago. - jmatchett383
Mrazek is the opposite of Nick Foles. Mrazek is only a good goalie when not playing for Philly. |
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It surprised me that the fans were booing them at the end of the second period. I get the PP was having trouble with zone entries, but the period and previous PP's we dominated and had excellent chances. Their goalie played a great game. And if you watch Jake was not pleased at the booing. I get they are professional athletes and booing will happen, but when they are playing like that i feel it is unwarranted. - Peter Richards
That really ticked me off, we played with a great effort and a couple bad PPs and they are getting booed. |
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Keith25
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I agree. Mrazek, goalie or not, got up and started coming at him. Thornton figured he'd rather NOT be the one to get punched first after a guy just threw a wild slash at him.
But yeah, this would have incited a riot 15 years ago. - jmatchett383
I don't know, I do not think Mrazek was going to do anything as his hands were down. I think he was going to just ask him face to face if he is alright (mentally). As that poke check was absolutely over the line.
And you simply do not punch goaltender in face no matter what. The same I expect from goaltender to be fair. The slash was harsh but to be fair it was the least Thornton should expect from Mrazek after what he did.
15-20 years ago there was unwritten code between players. Goaltender is simply sacred player on ice. You do not mess with him without facing consequences. Really scared to see where today's NHL is heading. If this is to become standard that goaltender can be punched in face, then I feel very bad. It makes me literally sick.
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Peter Richards
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I don't know, I do not think Mrazek was going to do anything as his hands were down. I think he was going to just ask him face to face if he is alright (mentally). As that poke check was absolutely over the line.
And you simply do not punch goaltender in face no matter what. The same I expect from goaltender to be fair. The slash was harsh but to be fair it was the least Thornton should expect from Mrazek after what he did.
15-20 years ago there was unwritten code between players. Goaltender is simply sacred player on ice. You do not mess with him without facing consequences. Really scared to see where today's NHL is heading. If this is to become standard that goaltender can be punched in face, then I feel very bad. It makes me literally sick. - Keith25
well this is when the instigator rule ruined policing of their own. its funny how a slash that was a full arm swing is dismissed due to a poke check. These pokes happen after almost every whistle. Canes did not protect their goalie...that's on them. No one would be saying a thing or looking at this if mrazek didn't crumble. If that was emery or hex or even someone with a little fortitude it does not go down the same way. The man stops pucks with his face, and extension punch/push...come on. The penalties called were sufficient. |
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Peter Richards
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I agree. Mrazek, goalie or not, got up and started coming at him. Thornton figured he'd rather NOT be the one to get punched first after a guy just threw a wild slash at him.
But yeah, this would have incited a riot 15 years ago. - jmatchett383
we've all seen thornton fight, it classifies as a punch...but barely. people are making it seem like it was emery massacring hotlby |
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ClaudeFather
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well this is when the instigator rule ruined policing of their own. its funny how a slash that was a full arm swing is dismissed due to a poke check. These pokes happen after almost every whistle. Canes did not protect their goalie...that's on them. No one would be saying a thing or looking at this if mrazek didn't crumble. If that was emery or hex or even someone with a little fortitude it does not go down the same way. The man stops pucks with his face, and extension punch/push...come on. The penalties called were sufficient. - Peter Richards
How does no one immediately drop the gloves? Idc who is on the ice, your goalie just got dropped... Canes are pathetic. |
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jmatchett383
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I don't know, I do not think Mrazek was going to do anything as his hands were down. I think he was going to just ask him face to face if he is alright (mentally). As that poke check was absolutely over the line.
And you simply do not punch goaltender in face no matter what. The same I expect from goaltender to be fair. The slash was harsh but to be fair it was the least Thornton should expect from Mrazek after what he did.
15-20 years ago there was unwritten code between players. Goaltender is simply sacred player on ice. You do not mess with him without facing consequences. Really scared to see where today's NHL is heading. If this is to become standard that goaltender can be punched in face, then I feel very bad. It makes me literally sick. - Keith25
The goalie was never "sacred." Guys like Billy Smith, Ron Hextall, Garth Snow, Rick DiPietro, Dan Cloutier, and Ray Emery are proof of that. Hell, Patrick Roy and Ed Belfour liked to mix it up too. Now, as far as a player full-on fighting a goalie (a la Michael Haley on Brent Johnson), I'd say that's unfair due to the lack of arm movement on the goalie, but it doesn't make them untouchable.
I agree that the poke was late, but if Mrazek doesn't want to get punched, don't take a wild slash at a dude and get up in his face. I'd have done the exact same thing. My biggest issue lies with the rest of the Canes not coming to his defense to help him out/respond. |
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ClaudeFather
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The goalie was never "sacred." Guys like Billy Smith, Hextall, Garth Snow, Rick DiPietro, and Emery are proof of that. Hell, Patrick Roy liked to mix it up. Now, as far as a player full-on fighting a goalie (a la Michael Haley on Brent Johnson), I'd say that's unfair due to the lack of arm movement on the goalie, but it doesn't make them untouchable.
I agree that the poke was late, but if Mrazek doesn't want to get punched, don't take a wild slash at a dude and get up in his face. I'd have done the exact same thing. My biggest issue lies with the rest of the Canes not coming to his defense to help him out/respond. - jmatchett383
Well said, bunch of Jerks, more like a bunch of wussies. |
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mickel25
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The goalie was never "sacred." Guys like Billy Smith, Ron Hextall, Garth Snow, Rick DiPietro, Dan Cloutier, and Ray Emery are proof of that. Hell, Patrick Roy and Ed Belfour liked to mix it up too. Now, as far as a player full-on fighting a goalie (a la Michael Haley on Brent Johnson), I'd say that's unfair due to the lack of arm movement on the goalie, but it doesn't make them untouchable.
I agree that the poke was late, but if Mrazek doesn't want to get punched, don't take a wild slash at a dude and get up in his face. I'd have done the exact same thing. My biggest issue lies with the rest of the Canes not coming to his defense to help him out/respond. - jmatchett383
Agreed. Embarrassing for the Canes. That just cannot happen without a response. |
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sjk540
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How does no one immediately drop the gloves? Idc who is on the ice, your goalie just got dropped... Canes are pathetic. - ClaudeFather
First thing I thought when i saw him drop Mrazek, not one person just torpedoed in wanting to drop the gloves. i feel like if that happened to even Holtby, Ovechkin would've been the first one over there to level someone, or if it happened to Rask I bet Marchand wouldn't give a (frank) who it was the gloves would be off. If jake was on the ice and it happened to Hart/Moose he would be the first person after him, always appreciated Jake's guile.
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jmatchett383
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As for the game last night, maybe the most boring game of the season. Arizona plays a smart, effective defensive style, relies on the goalie to make a few extra saves, and looks for counter-attacks. Very slow, methodic style that stifles a lot of flow. But it worked for them last night. |
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First thing I thought when i saw him drop Mrazek, not one person just torpedoed in wanting to drop the gloves. i feel like if that happened to even Holtby, Ovechkin would've been the first one over there to level someone, or if it happened to Rask I bet Marchand wouldn't give a (frank) who it was the gloves would be off. If jake was on the ice and it happened to Hart/Moose he would be the first person after him, always appreciated Jake's guile.
Canes really are silly putty soft if not one person on the ice challenged him - sjk540
Maybe they were all too busy planning their post-game dance routine? |
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ClaudeFather
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First thing I thought when i saw him drop Mrazek, not one person just torpedoed in wanting to drop the gloves. i feel like if that happened to even Holtby, Ovechkin would've been the first one over there to level someone, or if it happened to Rask I bet Marchand wouldn't give a (frank) who it was the gloves would be off. If jake was on the ice and it happened to Hart/Moose he would be the first person after him, always appreciated Jake's guile.
Canes really are silly putty soft if not one person on the ice challenged him - sjk540
He hasn't had one in a while but I love when Jake loses his sh!t, complete flip out and he's throwing. We have a ton of guys that would immediately have dropped em (not saying they'd win the fight), Giroux would as well. I thought we were physical last night, good game, just couldn't buy one. Just don't come out slow Saturday, need to end that game in the first. |
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They passed up WAY too many shots from the slot and top of the circles for back door passes and drop passes to a trailer. That's how you lose a game that you double your opponent in possession, shots and scoring chances.
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ClaudeFather
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As for the game last night, maybe the most boring game of the season. Arizona plays a smart, effective defensive style, relies on the goalie to make a few extra saves, and looks for counter-attacks. Very slow, methodic style that stifles a lot of flow. But it worked for them last night. - jmatchett383
I thought from a Flyers perspective the game was entertaining, easily the most frustrated i've been all season but we kept pushing and put a great effort in. |
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They passed up WAY too many shots from the slot and top of the circles for back door passes and drop passes to a trailer. That's how you lose a game that you double your opponent in possession, shots and scoring chances. - kennygarcon
and then tend to shoot at the wrong time, on that 4 on 2 when Lindblom got the slide over from Ghost?, he had Cooter cutting right through the middle for a tap in. |
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Maybe they were all too busy planning their post-game dance routine? - jmatchett383
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Peter Richards
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As for the game last night, maybe the most boring game of the season. Arizona plays a smart, effective defensive style, relies on the goalie to make a few extra saves, and looks for counter-attacks. Very slow, methodic style that stifles a lot of flow. But it worked for them last night. - jmatchett383
They play with great speed too. But disagree, I was entertained throughout. 1st period was a little boring but that second and third. I was watching with false anticipation. can't win them all. |
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As for the game last night, maybe the most boring game of the season. Arizona plays a smart, effective defensive style, relies on the goalie to make a few extra saves, and looks for counter-attacks. Very slow, methodic style that stifles a lot of flow. But it worked for them last night. - jmatchett383
Yotes executed their game plan to a tee.
The effective way to counter that is quickness (not necessarily speed), that Flyers quite not have yet.
The great example of game quickness is TK to Roo goal against TML |
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I have zero problem with Stewart. I watched Riley Cote play for two or three seasons on a contending team. - SuperSchennBros
The difference is Cote actually played. 70GP, & 63GP. How many games will Stewart contribute something on the ice? |
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The difference is Cote actually played. 70GP, & 63GP. How many games will Stewart contribute something on the ice? - Djapana
Why does it matter? It;s a locker room spot on basically a locker room guy, kind of crazy but whatever. We are playing well and he's not hurting us. |
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