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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
SSB brings up a good point, that double high screen worked very well for us for many years, as well as allowing that high man to drift to the top of the circle for a quick G pass and a rifle from a left handed shooter (hartsy, schenner, coots at times. When did that wrinkle in the PP leave cause i remember, especially Schenn and Hartnell getting a lot of goals in that area.
- sjk540


If I’m remembering correctly, Frost had a shot from that area on the power play a few games ago. Not happening nearly as much as it used to.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 6 @ 1:02 PM ET
If I’m remembering correctly, Frost had a shot from that area on the power play a few games ago. Not happening nearly as much as it used to.
- Ftown19125


always depends on your shooters too
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
If I’m remembering correctly, Frost had a shot from that area on the power play a few games ago. Not happening nearly as much as it used to.
- Ftown19125


Was that a PP? I thought that was just a play off the face off. I could be wrong tho
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:07 PM ET
Was that a PP? I thought that was just a play off the face off. I could be wrong tho
- sjk540


Haha could have been. I just remember thinking that’s where Schenn and Hartnell were shooting from. He got off a good shot, just missed the net.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 6 @ 1:10 PM ET
Haha could have been. I just remember thinking that’s where Schenn and Hartnell were shooting from. He got off a good shot, just missed the net.
- Ftown19125


Pretty sure Frosty did put one home from there off a set face off too from G. That would be awesome if Frost became the new G but teamed up with him for the next 5/6 years and become a dominant duo
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:17 PM ET
Pretty sure Frosty did put one home from there off a set face off too from G. That would be awesome if Frost became the new G but teamed up with him for the next 5/6 years and become a dominant duo
- sjk540


Yeah he did. That’s the one he said after that G basically told him exactly where to stand.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Dec 6 @ 1:18 PM ET
What conspiracy theory are you hinting at with this?

Still love how Stewart consumes cycles for anyone.

- opeth_pa


No conspiracy. It is pretty straight forward. Fletcher has Stewart on the team as a personal favor.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
No conspiracy. It is pretty straight forward. Fletcher has Stewart on the team as a personal favor.
- StepfordSam

Ok, it is what it is.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Dec 6 @ 1:32 PM ET
Ok, it is what it is.
- ClaudeFather


Agreed
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
when is giroux going to start punching goalies
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
Agreed
- StepfordSam

I prefer a passive aggressive apply please.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
In regards to Stewart it’s a closed issue. We know why he is on the team and it isn’t hockey related. No one close to the Flyers will admit it. It’s called plausible deniability. No need to discuss to further.
- StepfordSam

The Stewart topic is just fans needing to female dog. He doesn’t need to be cut ASAP. He’s not keeping a young kid out of the line up or tying the Flyers up from calling up anyone. Complaining about Stewart is just stupid.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
Strongly disagree. If you want to be shown respect, don't slash the opposition. He'd of been left alone if he hadn't done so. Thornton's poke didn't warrant that response in my opinion.

I would have done the same thing to Mrazek.

- Pelle31Forever


I dont really have a problem with what either player did. From the video I saw it's hard to tell if the whistle blew before or after Mrazek tied up the puck. It was pretty close anyway, so I dont think Thornton was way out of line taking a poke at the puck. It happens all the time. From Mrazek's point of view I can see being pissed off when someone takes a poke at you after you tie up the puck, so I don't think he was out of line taking a swipe at Thornton. Also happens all the time. It didn't even look like he made contact. After that Mrazek came at Thornton pretty aggressively. Looks like he said something to Thornton. Maybe it was threatening? It doesn't really matter. Thornton just reacted like anyone would when someone comes at you like that and took a pop at him. It looked like it was more the surprise of the punch than the force that knocked Mrazek down. He milked it for a while laying on the ice like he'd been shot. Penalties were handed out. Mrazek was fine and finished the game. Thornton was fine too. What's the big deal?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
The Stewart topic is just fans needing to female dog. He doesn’t need to be cut ASAP. He’s not keeping a young kid out of the line up or tying the Flyers up from calling up anyone. Complaining about Stewart is just stupid.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:04 PM ET
I would go Provorov, Ghost (Jake's Spot), Giroux, Coots and JVR. Coots and JVR are the net front guys. I would like a better shot on the right side than what Voracek offers.
- mickel25

I’d go back to basics. Original structure. Original cast. Provorov staying ahead of Ghost is the only thing I wouldn’t change.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
when is giroux going to start punching goalies
- 2Real


Better question: When is Giroux going to start playing goal?

He hasn't yet. Doesn't mean he won't.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 6 @ 2:22 PM ET
Better question: When is Giroux going to start playing goal?

He hasn't yet. Doesn't mean he won't.

- jmatchett383


That's why he is a bad leader. The C stands for selfish with that guy.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
That's why he is a bad leader. The C stands for selfish with that guy.
- mickel25


He didn’t even tell Hagg to stop taking forward shifts. Does not give one (frank) about the team.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
I dont really have a problem with what either player did. From the video I saw it's hard to tell if the whistle blew before or after Mrazek tied up the puck. It was pretty close anyway, so I dont think Thornton was way out of line taking a poke at the puck. It happens all the time. From Mrazek's point of view I can see being pissed off when someone takes a poke at you after you tie up the puck, so I don't think he was out of line taking a swipe at Thornton. Also happens all the time. It didn't even look like he made contact. After that Mrazek came at Thornton pretty aggressively. Looks like he said something to Thornton. Maybe it was threatening? It doesn't really matter. Thornton just reacted like anyone would when someone comes at you like that and took a pop at him. It looked like it was more the surprise of the punch than the force that knocked Mrazek down. He milked it for a while laying on the ice like he'd been shot. Penalties were handed out. Mrazek was fine and finished the game. Thornton was fine too. What's the big deal?
- Dkos


Yup. You reap what you sow at that point.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
Better question: When is Giroux going to start playing goal?

He hasn't yet. Doesn't mean he won't.

- jmatchett383


Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Flyers had enough point blank chances to score, but just couldn't find the net. The effort was there, but the Fly Boys just came up short. Frost definitely had a rough night, but taking him off of G's line will not help. Consider Frost's bad night as growing pains. He will be fine.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
Better question: When is Giroux going to start playing goal?

He hasn't yet. Doesn't mean he won't.

- jmatchett383

joey you the man jackson
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
I’d go back to basics. Original structure. Original cast. Provorov staying ahead of Ghost is the only thing I wouldn’t change.
- SuperSchennBros


I would almost say put Ghost back out there, try and get the kids confidence going. If it is all upstairs with him, every moment he sees the first unit go on and he isn't included, it could do something to him mentally. Yeah it sucks if thats the case, but if it is what it is, get him goin there. have Provy on the 2nd unit to make them more potent, and split the time instead of giving heavy minutes to the 2nd unit. We can really have two really good units going and then when we see one clicking we can go with them more. I would go:

1st unit - G (in his office), JVR (net front), Lindblom(high slot) , Voracek (far side, behind net), Ghost QB

2nd Unit - Frost (G's Office), Hayes, Coots, TK, Provy

Two stacked units, plenty of skill, good QB's, and stop giving the 1st unit 1 minute and 30, if they can't get anything going after 30/45 secs you yank em. Plain and simple. There isn't a huge fall off to the 2nd unit. And if its late in the game, Keep G out there and just sit Frosty.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:29 PM ET
Flyers had enough point blank chances to score, but just couldn't find the net. The effort was there, but the Fly Boys just came up short. Frost definitely had a rough night, but taking him off of G's line will not help. Consider Frost's bad night as growing pains. He will be fine.
- Thors-Hammer


Kid has what all of 9 games under his belt? He will be fine.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
I would almost say put Ghost back out there, try and get the kids confidence going. If it is all upstairs with him, every moment he sees the first unit go on and he isn't included, it could do something to him mentally. Yeah it sucks if thats the case, but if it is what it is, get him goin there. have Provy on the 2nd unit to make them more potent, and split the time instead of giving heavy minutes to the 2nd unit. We can really have two really good units going and then when we see one clicking we can go with them more. I would go:

1st unit - G (in his office), JVR (net front), Lindblom(high slot) , Voracek (far side, behind net), Ghost QB

2nd Unit - Frost (G's Office), Hayes, Coots, TK, Provy

Two stacked units, plenty of skill, good QB's, and stop giving the 1st unit 1 minute and 30, if they can't get anything going after 30/45 secs you yank em. Plain and simple. There isn't a huge fall off to the 2nd unit. And if its late in the game, Keep G out there and just sit Frosty.

- sjk540

If Ghost is really this weak mentally, where he doesn’t understand he needs to earn his ice time back, (frank) em!
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