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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 9:33 AM ET
I'm not advocating for the rumored trade for Galchenyuk, but I'd be ok with it as well, of course depending on the assets used..
1 of Sandy or McCabe and 1 of Erod, Gus, Larson, Sheary.
Put them in a blender and keep mixing until Rutherford says yes....Pitt has $1.6m in cap space, so go for it.

Apparently Anahiem has been on their watch list as well.
Go get Rickard Rakell...expand the deal to include Ondrej Kase
Do what it takes, select from among Risto/Miller, Bogo, Mitts, 2020-2nd, Thompson, Smith, Fitzgerald, Bryson, Hickey ...put it in a blender until Murray says yes

VO-Jack-Sam
Skinner-Galy-Rakel. ...let Galy and Rakel's play determine who is C and who is RW
Mojo-Asplund-Kase
Vesey-Larsson-leftover

You can win with that

- IonSabres

I'd rather get Athanasiou, more speed, more grit and no coke issues


really doesn't matter though when the coach is going to lean on larsson, okposo and girgens as his second line for the last 5 minutes, when trailing, and leave skinner, vesey, sheary, johansson, and whoever we bring in until we pull the goalie
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 9:38 AM ET
I'm not advocating for the rumored trade for Galchenyuk, but I'd be ok with it as well, of course depending on the assets used..
1 of Sandy or McCabe and 1 of Erod, Gus, Larson, Sheary.
Put them in a blender and keep mixing until Rutherford says yes....Pitt has $1.6m in cap space, so go for it.

Apparently Anahiem has been on their watch list as well.
Go get Rickard Rakell...expand the deal to include Ondrej Kase
Do what it takes, select from among Risto/Miller, Bogo, Mitts, 2020-2nd, Thompson, Smith, Fitzgerald, Bryson, Hickey ...put it in a blender until Murray says yes

VO-Jack-Sam
Skinner-Galy-Rakel. ...let Galy and Rakel's play determine who is C and who is RW
Mojo-Asplund-Kase
Vesey-Larsson-leftover

You can win with that

- IonSabres


I’d imagine it would be hard to convince Anaheim to give up both Kase and Rakell
Neither are having seasons that would be near their ceiling, so maybe?
But I’d be surprised if the Ducks gave up on both of them
Especially since their contracts are very friendly
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yuck
5.25mil for the next 6 years,
for a high end of 15goals & 45pts

His last 2 seasons he’s averaged 12goals & 32pts

He’s a 3C
We made the right decision to pass on him

- jdfitz77


That could play 2c for this year and next better than what we have from anyone else. Until hopefully cozens is ready... but hey. Let’s keep rolling 7 d. And having a 2c that hasn’t played there in 5 years. Or the kid that was rushed that got stuck on the wing. I mean who doesn’t want to keep watching skinner with Swedish Lockport. Perfect compliment to a $9 million dollar winger.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 9:40 AM ET
Oh but who doesn’t love floral tinged stink. That’s all I’m gonna think when Okposo scores. Man that’s some good flower covered stank.
- Gr8daygo


Everyone would prefer moving Okposo bc of his contract, but that’s what makes him pretty much untradable
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 9:44 AM ET
Everyone would prefer moving Okposo bc of his contract, but that’s what makes him pretty much untradable
- jdfitz77


He’s one concussion away from retirement... I disagree with 89 on this one. No way does he make it to the end of the contract.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 9:44 AM ET
That could play 2c for this year and next better than what we have from anyone else. Until hopefully cozens is ready... but hey. Let’s keep rolling 7 d. And having a 2c that hasn’t played there in 5 years. Or the kid that was rushed that got stuck on the wing. I mean who doesn’t want to keep watching skinner with Swedish Lockport. Perfect compliment to a $9 million dollar winger.
- Gr8daygo


Debatable that he’s better than MoJo,
but let’s just say he is (even though i don’t think so)
We still be stuck with him playing 3C for 5 more years after next
And likely scoring closer to 10goals & 30pts bc of the 3C role

For 5.25mil...
that’s just way too much for the type of production we’d get and the role he’d be in


Boston’s gonna regret that contract sooner than later

It’s one thing to overpay your top guys (like Skinner)
But it’s a terrible idea to be overpaying your bottom6 guys...
And especially for that long

No thanks. Terrible idea
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 9:46 AM ET
He’s one concussion away from retirement... I disagree with 89 on this one. No way does he make it to the end of the contract.
- Gr8daygo


Possibly
That what most of us would’ve thought before this latest one too

Maybe when the season is done he can take a step back & think about his health?
He might be “healthy” enough to keep playing
But certainly seems like a prime candidate for CTE in the future
Especially if he continues his career
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 9:48 AM ET


It’s one thing to overpay your top guys (like Skinner)

- jdfitz77

9 mil for a 40 goal scorer is not an overpayment, it's the market rate

the lack of production is on the coach and gm due to who they are playing him with and how they use him


larsson, okposo and girgens got more even strength time in the 3rd period then skinner, before we pulled the goalie
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
9 mil for a 40 goal scorer is not an overpayment, it's the market rate

the lack of production is on the coach and gm due to who they are playing him with and how they use him


larsson, okposo and girgens got more even strength time in the 3rd period then skinner, before we pulled the goalie

- homiedclown


Ok... don’t disagree really
But that’s not at all what we were talking about

Overpaying Coyle to be a 3C for the large part of his contract would’ve been a bad move by us
Boston will find that out sooner than later
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 9:54 AM ET
9 mil for a 40 goal scorer is not an overpayment, it's the market rate

the lack of production is on the coach and gm due to who they are playing him with and how they use him


larsson, okposo and girgens got more even strength time in the 3rd period then skinner, before we pulled the goalie

- homiedclown


That really is baffling!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
That really is baffling!
- Gr8daygo


Is it bc Skinner was coming off PP shifts,
so that line just got pushed down the rotation,
whereas the Lockport line was first up after each PP?

That’s the only thing i can come up with
Couldn’t have been a conscious decision to do that when we were trailing

Nvmd... we only had 1 PP in the 3rd,
I thought we had more

Hard to figure what Ralph was thinking there
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:03 AM ET
I'd rather get Athanasiou, more speed, more grit and no coke issues


really doesn't matter though when the coach is going to lean on larsson, okposo and girgens as his second line for the last 5 minutes, when trailing, and leave skinner, vesey, sheary, johansson, and whoever we bring in until we pull the goalie

- homiedclown


I wonder what it’ll take for teams to actually part with some of these good players having down seasons

Maybe these other GMs are just afraid to “sell low” and then get burned when these guys have bounce back seasons next year & beyond
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
Is it bc Skinner was coming off PP shifts,
so that line just got pushed down the rotation,
whereas the Lockport line was first up after each PP?

That’s the only thing i can come up with
Couldn’t have been a conscious decision to do that when we were trailing

Nvmd... we only had 1 PP in the 3rd,
I thought we had more

Hard to figure what Ralph was thinking there

- jdfitz77


It's frequently difficult to figure out what Ralph is thinking, like this nugget before the game yesterday. He can't possibly see the pairing of McCabe and Bogosian as anything resembling decent, can he?

Krueger on Miller: "We thought he’s been really strong the last few days, which is one of the reasons we ended up going with seven D over the last period of time. It’s just the way we see the pairs. Right through the lineup we’re looking for a little familiarity right now."
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 10:16 AM ET
I wonder what it’ll take for teams to actually part with some of these good players having down seasons

Maybe these other GMs are just afraid to “sell low” and then get burned when these guys have bounce back seasons next year & beyond

- jdfitz77


Could be that, a little early in the season, and injuries forcing teams to hold on making moves. But something has to give!!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 10:17 AM ET
Ok... don’t disagree really
But that’s not at all what we were talking about

Overpaying Coyle to be a 3C for the large part of his contract would’ve been a bad move by us
Boston will find that out sooner than later

- jdfitz77

build down the middle

I would rather have eichel, ror and coyle as my 3 centers and plug the rosters with 1 pricey winger and the rest with fast entry guys and 3-4 million dollar guys

but having 4 or 5 bad contracts on this roster hampered that short term
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 10:20 AM ET
It's frequently difficult to figure out what Ralph is thinking, like this nugget before the game yesterday. He can't possibly see the pairing of McCabe and Bogosian as anything resembling decent, can he?

Krueger on Miller: "We thought he’s been really strong the last few days, which is one of the reasons we ended up going with seven D over the last period of time. It’s just the way we see the pairs. Right through the lineup we’re looking for a little familiarity right now."

- kingcong39

when you are leaning on mccabe and bogo for 20 plus minutes, and reducing joker, dahlin and montour

it's not a good thing


just another coach leaning on the core


montour has less then 20 minutes in 11 straight games

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:24 AM ET
when you are leaning on mccabe and bogo for 20 plus minutes, and reducing joker, dahlin and montour

it's not a good thing

just another coach leaning on the core

montour has less then 20 minutes in 11 straight games

- homiedclown


I thought Montour has played well since his return.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'd rather get Athanasiou, more speed, more grit and no coke issues


really doesn't matter though when the coach is going to lean on larsson, okposo and girgens as his second line for the last 5 minutes, when trailing, and leave skinner, vesey, sheary, johansson, and whoever we bring in until we pull the goalie

- homiedclown


AA worries me a bit, never into the 50 pt level, I know he is on a poopty team and +- doesn't matter...but holy crap -31 so far....he could be 2x Risto's Green Jacket run.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 10:28 AM ET
I thought Montour has played well since his return.
- kingcong39

kruger doesn't seem to think that way

17 minutes ice time last 10 games

http://www.espn.com/nhl/p...d/3115032/brandon-montour
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
AA worries me a bit, never into the 50 pt level, I know he is on a poopty team and +- doesn't matter...but holy crap -31 so far....he could be 2x Risto's Green Jacket run.
- IonSabres


the green jacket reference



if the team sucks, +/- reflects it most on the better players as they are always out there in times when pressing for a goal


if kruger is leaning on the lockport line and burying vesey, asplund, casey, sheary , etc


it really doesn't matter who we bring in unless it's a RNH type guy to anchor the second line



whoever runs our pp needs to be fired tomorrow and if kruger doesn't want to do it, he can go as well
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
build down the middle

I would rather have eichel, ror and coyle as my 3 centers and plug the rosters with 1 pricey winger and the rest with fast entry guys and 3-4 million dollar guys

but having 4 or 5 bad contracts on this roster hampered that short term

- homiedclown


So much this. And forcing mitts isn’t helping in the short term. Mojo has been an admirable stop gap but he’s more of a injury replacement center. Not a year long replacement. The center position is just weak! We have a 1. And a 4. And promising young 3...
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 8 @ 10:42 AM ET

the green jacket reference



if the team sucks, +/- reflects it most on the better players as they are always out there in times when pressing for a goal


if kruger is leaning on the lockport line and burying vesey, asplund, casey, sheary , etc


it really doesn't matter who we bring in unless it's a RNH type guy to anchor the second line



whoever runs our pp needs to be fired tomorrow and if kruger doesn't want to do it, he can go as well

- homiedclown


Who is in charge of this pp / pk? I didn’t think house’s system could look good. But compared to this.... woof!
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
Finally watched the replay of the game. Bogo just can't skate anymore. The Hip surgeries have taken there toll. And don't know if it is because of the hips but he is playing scared, not physical at all.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Finally watched the replay of the game. Bogo just can't skate anymore. The Hip surgeries have taken there toll. And don't know if it is because of the hips but he is playing scared, not physical at all.
- Buff36


Makes you wonder what the hell the coach sees where he gives him the most 5v5 ice time last night, and thinks a pairing of him and McCabe is a good idea.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
AA worries me a bit, never into the 50 pt level, I know he is on a poopty team and +- doesn't matter...but holy crap -31 so far....he could be 2x Risto's Green Jacket run.
- IonSabres


He's now a -33. Woof.
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