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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Thornton v Mrazek? Who was right and who was wrong? Rumors to come
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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
I have no problem with a goalie waving a stick after an opponent jabs at him after the whistle. If the refs want to call a penalty for a swing and a miss, so be it. But I think 99% of the goalie swings and misses are not called a penalty.

If you want to fight, drop the gloves. Don't sucker punch with your gloves on.

Mzr - no penalty or two minutes for slashing
Jumbo - 2 minutes for roughing if Mzr gets nothing. 5 minutes for fighting if Mzr gets 2 for slashing.

I would go with the former over the latter. No slash and 2 minutes for roughing.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
This maybe the Old Guy (only 54 yrs old) yelling get off my lawn but
GET THE "BLANK" OFF MY LAWN! Crossing lines and all that...Give me a break! This is the young guy "Girl Hockey" (NO offense to Ladies Hockey! There's no checking in Ladies hockey) where you can't even hit someone with a good body check without them crying or wanting to fight!

The young guys have ZERO respect for their teammates! In old school hockey if someone messed with our goalie, it's game on! We would've have fought Thornton (regardless if the goalie slashed him or not - Which by the replay showed he didn't even connect) and beat the crap out of him for messing with our goalie!

Thornton came in late & the Goalie had every right to take a swing at him! However, once Thornton punched the goalie, where was the team? This pushing and shoving crap is BS! Drop the gloves and make a statement that you don 't mess with our goalie! Aren't you supposed to be family????? What's the message to your goalie when the team does NOTHING?????

Todays hockey players are awesome skaters, very talented but put them against any teams of the 60's - 90"s and they couldn't hold up against the physical play and fighting! It is different time but when someone messes with your Goalie you BETTER stand up and protect your guy!

It's HOCKEY!!! PLAY IT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR TEAMMATES!

- ericwinks

Is anyone going to 'OK boomer' this guy or do I need to do it myself?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
A slash isn't a slash unless it connects.
Is a high stick a high stick if it doesn't connect?
How about elbowing or kneeing?

- bobbyisno1


You can get a slashing penalty for just swinging your stick dangerously. It doesn't have to make contact.
TincupCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2010

Dec 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
That's hockey boys
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
This maybe the Old Guy (only 54 yrs old) yelling get off my lawn but
GET THE "BLANK" OFF MY LAWN! Crossing lines and all that...Give me a break! This is the young guy "Girl Hockey" (NO offense to Ladies Hockey! There's no checking in Ladies hockey) where you can't even hit someone with a good body check without them crying or wanting to fight!

The young guys have ZERO respect for their teammates! In old school hockey if someone messed with our goalie, it's game on! We would've have fought Thornton (regardless if the goalie slashed him or not - Which by the replay showed he didn't even connect) and beat the crap out of him for messing with our goalie!

Thornton came in late & the Goalie had every right to take a swing at him! However, once Thornton punched the goalie, where was the team? This pushing and shoving crap is BS! Drop the gloves and make a statement that you don 't mess with our goalie! Aren't you supposed to be family????? What's the message to your goalie when the team does NOTHING?????

Todays hockey players are awesome skaters, very talented but put them against any teams of the 60's - 90"s and they couldn't hold up against the physical play and fighting! It is different time but when someone messes with your Goalie you BETTER stand up and protect your guy!

It's HOCKEY!!! PLAY IT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR TEAMMATES!

- ericwinks


They won the game, Eric.
OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2015

Dec 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
What did Mrazek expect? What a fool. I don't think that was embellishment afterward, I think that was embarrassment and the realization that he put his foot in it knee deep.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Mrazek. 110%. Should be suspended for his violent attempted swing at Thornton. Then he confronts Joe and gets a well deserved punched in the face...oh then lies on the ground half dead. Probably from the humiliation.

This never escalates is he:
A) Doesn’t take a violent swing with a goalie stick which is 5 times heavier than a regular stick
B) Then gets up and tries to get in Thornton’s face.

He got precisely what he deserved
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
This maybe the Old Guy (only 54 yrs old) yelling get off my lawn but
GET THE "BLANK" OFF MY LAWN! Crossing lines and all that...Give me a break! This is the young guy "Girl Hockey" (NO offense to Ladies Hockey! There's no checking in Ladies hockey) where you can't even hit someone with a good body check without them crying or wanting to fight!

The young guys have ZERO respect for their teammates! In old school hockey if someone messed with our goalie, it's game on! We would've have fought Thornton (regardless if the goalie slashed him or not - Which by the replay showed he didn't even connect) and beat the crap out of him for messing with our goalie!

Thornton came in late & the Goalie had every right to take a swing at him! However, once Thornton punched the goalie, where was the team? This pushing and shoving crap is BS! Drop the gloves and make a statement that you don 't mess with our goalie! Aren't you supposed to be family????? What's the message to your goalie when the team does NOTHING?????

Todays hockey players are awesome skaters, very talented but put them against any teams of the 60's - 90"s and they couldn't hold up against the physical play and fighting! It is different time but when someone messes with your Goalie you BETTER stand up and protect your guy!

It's HOCKEY!!! PLAY IT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR TEAMMATES!

- ericwinks

BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
What did Mrazek expect? What a fool. I don't think that was embellishment afterward, I think that was embarrassment and the realization that he put his foot in it knee deep.
- OilyJay


Couldn’t agree more. Proud of Joe. Not a fan of either team but as someone who used to play hockey. Those goalie sticks are like weapons. Nothing on the ice hurts like a slash from a goalie. He coulda broke Jumbo’s leg with that swing. Then tries to get up in his face? I’m glad he blasted him
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Throwing a shot at the goalies throat is pretty cheap
- Stan_Bowman


Lol did you watch the part where he tried to take Thornton’s legs off with that ridiculous swing attempt? Thornton should took his helmet off and gave him a Myles Garrett for that. Pathetic man
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: CrkPlanet, BC
Joined: 04.11.2018

Dec 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
Neither. It’s hockey, this stuff happens.

A suspension would be ridiculous.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 3:29 PM ET
Mrazek. 110%. Should be suspended for his violent attempted swing at Thornton. Then he confronts Joe and gets a well deserved punched in the face...oh then lies on the ground half dead. Probably from the humiliation.

This never escalates is he:
A) Doesn’t take a violent swing with a goalie stick which is 5 times heavier than a regular stick
B) Then gets up and tries to get in Thornton’s face.

He got precisely what he deserved

- BringNYIhome


We are unable to know intent. My feeling is that he just wanted to show Thornton he was pissed. If he intended to slash Jumbo he would have made contact and that might be a suspendable offense.
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
Mrazek went down like he got shot by a howitzer. Total embellishment. I know that goalies should be protected, but when the goalie leaves the crease and goes after a player, they should expect the worse.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 3:38 PM ET
Mrazek went down like he got shot by a howitzer. Total embellishment. I know that goalies should be protected, but when the goalie leaves the crease and goes after a player, they should expect the worse.
- Thors-Hammer


Maybe. But if you are caught off guard and the mask strikes you in the right place he can be temporarily debilitating. I speak from experience.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Neither. It’s hockey, this stuff happens.

A suspension would be ridiculous.

- Big23Questions


Exactly.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:42 PM ET
I agree with both of you. If it is 2 players I am fully ok. But to punch goaltender like that is really cheap. That punch was not defensive, it was just cheap. Classless from Joe.
- Keith25


Yes its not like the goalie as a full face gear...

oh wait

BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:48 PM ET
We are unable to know intent. My feeling is that he just wanted to show Thornton he was pissed. If he intended to slash Jumbo he would have made contact and that might be a suspendable offense.
- -Doh-


He only missed him because Thornton kept skating forward. He reached as far as he could. He was tryin to hit him. No doubt. Some guys will tell you “you get one shot at me” if you miss you’re in trouble. Mrazek missed. Got beat up. Fair 🤷🏻‍♂️
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Dec 6 @ 3:49 PM ET
Is anyone going to 'OK boomer' this guy or do I need to do it myself?
- eichiefs9


Keep that condescending adolescent bullpoop on Twitter.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
Keep that condescending adolescent bullpoop on Twitter.
- RonPielep


okay boomer
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 3:53 PM ET
Joe crossed the line, significantly. You just do not punch goaltenders in their face like that. Looks like idiot to me. Both him and Cans defenders should ashamed. He would not walk for 2 weeks, had he done that 15 years ago.
Scared where today's NHL is heading, no respect what so ever. It used to be tough but fair and respectful sport. Surprised it comes from player like him.

- Keith25


So you think a player crosses the line after a goalie takes a violent swing at them with the possibly the heaviest piece of equipment on the ice - a goalie stick. Then gets up to go after him. And Joe was wrong for hitting the guy on the ice who’s wearing the most protective equipment of any player in any sport including a full mask?

Question: Think about how much of an idiot you sound like 🤔

Answer: it’s a lot
Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

Dec 6 @ 3:57 PM ET
Maybe they were to busy working on their next storm surge
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
Keep that condescending adolescent bullpoop on Twitter.
- RonPielep

ok flapper
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Dec 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
Couldn’t agree more. Proud of Joe. Not a fan of either team but as someone who used to play hockey. Those goalie sticks are like weapons. Nothing on the ice hurts like a slash from a goalie. He coulda broke Jumbo’s leg with that swing. Then tries to get up in his face? I’m glad he blasted him
- BringNYIhome


He should break it. Joe should not walk for 2 weeks. That is what he'd deserve. Classless punk!
--Lamp--
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Seattle
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
There aren't enough passionate opinions on this thread. We need more.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
You'd think the Hurricanes would've learned by now. Don't poke the bear!



Mrazek 100% deserved that.
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