I wonder if the sharks want anything the pens have to offer. Evanser Kane has been on a warpath this year. (frank)ing up nhl newbies that don’t realize players used to be tough on the regular. He would look good with Malkin. He wouldn’t listen to that “ just play” bullpoop either.

I wonder if the sharks want anything the pens have to offer. Evanser Kane has been on a warpath this year. (frank)ing up nhl newbies that don’t realize players used to be tough on the regular. He would look good with Malkin. He wouldn’t listen to that “ just play” bullpoop either.
- Grinder47

Yes, goaltending. But I doubt they would trade Kane and he and Sully would be like oil and water.

Well you just totally sold Toffoli to me...lets get that fvcker GR!
- MattStrat

JR!*

🙃

ZAR kind of sticks out like a sore thumb on that line, IMO. I would try Tanev on that line and call it the Buzz line.
- Hockey66

I like that line and it was successful earlier...but that's the one they ran a lot for the last few games that didn't do much.

I know a lot of you hate ZAR, I think he's been good in his role. Much better than watching Kuhnhackl, Rowney, Wilson, and last year's Cullen.

ZAR leads the team regulars in every defensive metric, corsi, shots, goals, expected goals, scoring chances, and high danger chances, except Fenwick against (he's second) and leads the team in scoring chance and high danger scoring chance percentage. I don't care if people think he should skate harder, that's being effective.

Yes, goaltending. But I doubt they would trade Kane and he and Sully would be like oil and water.
- Hockey66

Then ditch the junior high soccer coach for a hockey coach. Sullys a puss. Simon sucks.

I like that line and it was successful earlier...but that's the one they ran a lot for the last few games that didn't do much.

I know a lot of you hate ZAR, I think he's been good in his role. Much better than watching Kuhnhackl, Rowney, Wilson, and last year's Cullen.

ZAR leads the team regulars in every defensive metric, corsi, shots, goals, expected goals, scoring chances, and high danger chances, except Fenwick against (he's second) and leads the team in scoring chance and high danger scoring chance percentage. I don't care if people think he should skate harder, that's being effective.
- Tojo.

I don't hate him, but just like Simon, I never want to see him in the top 6 because he is a black hole on offense. Also, not sure which opposition lines he's going up against.

I don't hate him, but just like Simon, I never want to see him in the top 6 because he is a black hole on offense. Also, not sure which opposition lines he's going up against.
- Hockey66

Agree on top 6, that's why they need a better option. Right now, might as well, everyone else has had a chance.

He's been playing against other team's scoring lines every night. I'd prefer to keep him in that type of bottom six role, but he's not playing sheltered competition.

Agree on top 6, that's why they need a better option. Right now, might as well, everyone else has had a chance.

He's been playing against other team's scoring lines every night. I'd prefer to keep him in that type of bottom six role, but he's not playing sheltered competition.
- Tojo.

Ok, thanks for the info.

I think the Pens desperately need a RW. I'm not holding my breath that either Bjug or Horny will be effective, let alone healthy. Rust is sure to regress at some point, too.

For Feds: There have been 5 coaching changes in the NHL since the Detroit Red Wings last won a game

I wonder if the sharks want anything the pens have to offer. Evanser Kane has been on a warpath this year. (frank)ing up nhl newbies that don’t realize players used to be tough on the regular. He would look good with Malkin. He wouldn’t listen to that “ just play” bullpoop either.
- Grinder47

I'm actually kind of surprised you like Kane since he really doesn't pay "the code" any mind, especially when it comes to fighting.

I'm actually kind of surprised you like Kane since he really doesn't pay "the code" any mind, especially when it comes to fighting.
- Hockey66

In this day and age with America ruining the nhl you take what you can get.

I like that line and it was successful earlier...but that's the one they ran a lot for the last few games that didn't do much.

I know a lot of you hate ZAR, I think he's been good in his role. Much better than watching Kuhnhackl, Rowney, Wilson, and last year's Cullen.

ZAR leads the team regulars in every defensive metric, corsi, shots, goals, expected goals, scoring chances, and high danger chances, except Fenwick against (he's second) and leads the team in scoring chance and high danger scoring chance percentage. I don't care if people think he should skate harder, that's being effective.
- Tojo.

He’s kind of grown on me. He finishes his checks. They might be like a midget throwing a patatochip into the wind, but he at least gets it. And all that other nonsense you were spewing. That’s good too.

In this day and age with America ruining the nhl you take what you can get.
- Grinder47

Haha

I like that line and it was successful earlier...but that's the one they ran a lot for the last few games that didn't do much.

I know a lot of you hate ZAR, I think he's been good in his role. Much better than watching Kuhnhackl, Rowney, Wilson, and last year's Cullen.

ZAR leads the team regulars in every defensive metric, corsi, shots, goals, expected goals, scoring chances, and high danger chances, except Fenwick against (he's second) and leads the team in scoring chance and high danger scoring chance percentage. I don't care if people think he should skate harder, that's being effective.
- Tojo.

As an addendum, I was ready to throw ZAR in on a trade, partly to even out the money but more so to get guys like Lafferty more time. I see ZAR as having peaked but Lafferty as still having a lot of potential. But maybe this is wrong as they are less than a year apart in age. The other thing is ZAR can play RW whereas Lafferty is just a LW (as far as I know) and we need RWs.

You bring up a good point and lot of good defensive stats. I'm guessing a lot of that has to do with the endless offensive zone cycling. While ZAR may seem vanilla and a black hole on offense, maybe he is better and more important than I realized. You have swayed my opinion of him, but I still don't want to see him in the top 6.

Anyone see this? haha

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...WvyBBOZUbLyxR2BVvrozHWrAY

Anyone see this? haha

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...WvyBBOZUbLyxR2BVvrozHWrAY
- MattStrat

Yea and it sure was boring. It was one of those games where I did something else and the game was just on in the background.

Anyone see this? haha

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...WvyBBOZUbLyxR2BVvrozHWrAY
- MattStrat

Maybe he should look at the coach's failure to make in-game adjustments? Same thing happens against Trotz. I would say this is Sully's major shortcoming.

Maybe he should look at the coach's failure to make in-game adjustments? Same thing happens against Trotz. I would say this is Sully's major shortcoming.
- Hockey66

The players came out flat as fvck for the 2nd while at the same time the Habs players came out extremely motivated to win. I'm not blaming that loss on Sully.

Admittedly, after the end of last season, I was kinda leaning towards the camp of Sully should go and thinking that he had lost the room. This season however I'm extremely impressed with the Pens overall play with a skeleton crew most games. I think a lot of that is on him.

Anyone see this? haha

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...WvyBBOZUbLyxR2BVvrozHWrAY
- MattStrat

I saw it, but I also read the original article. Lemieux called it boring, but also called it effective. That just grabbed a random quote and spin it.

The players came out flat as fvck for the 2nd while at the same time the Habs players came out extremely motivated to win. I'm not blaming that loss on Sully.

Admittedly, after the end of last season, I was kinda leaning towards the camp of Sully should go and thinking that he had lost the room. This season however I'm extremely impressed with the Pens overall play with a skeleton crew most games. I think a lot of that is on him.
- MattStrat

Agree. Sully is an excellent coach, maybe not equal to Trotz, but good. There were a handful of guys he couldn't get buy in, Kessel, Brassard, but shuffle a few guys out and he's back in control, able to smooth things out with Malkin who's playing phenomenal two way hockey this year, and has them playing great.

Anyone see this? haha

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...WvyBBOZUbLyxR2BVvrozHWrAY
- MattStrat

This is way more entertaining:

https://exposingpedovore....nochrome-associated-with/

Agree. Sully is an excellent coach, maybe not equal to Trotz, but good. There were a handful of guys he couldn't get buy in, Kessel, Brassard, but shuffle a few guys out and he's back in control, able to smooth things out with Malkin who's playing phenomenal two way hockey this year, and has them playing great.
- Tojo.

Geno is Machino again. He is score.

As an addendum, I was ready to throw ZAR in on a trade, partly to even out the money but more so to get guys like Lafferty more time. I see ZAR as having peaked but Lafferty as still having a lot of potential. But maybe this is wrong as they are less than a year apart in age. The other thing is ZAR can play RW whereas Lafferty is just a LW (as far as I know) and we need RWs.

You bring up a good point and lot of good defensive stats. I'm guessing a lot of that has to do with the endless offensive zone cycling. While ZAR may seem vanilla and a black hole on offense, maybe he is better and more important than I realized. You have swayed my opinion of him, but I still don't want to see him in the top 6.
- Hockey66

ZAR really doesn't make that much. League minimum is 700k and it will rise next year. Lafferty is 767.5k. At that salary, I'd argue he helps the cap.

If they remove players until Lafferty is 12th, that means as soon as there's an injury, you're playing someone worse then Lafferty. Even at 14th, he's played a ton. I'd rather keep 12 or 13 guys ahead of him for depth because I don't really love any of the other call-up guys much.

And I agree on top 6, I mostly quoted defensive stats, not offensive. They're just low on options for a 4th top 6 wing. Galchenyuk hasn't clicked with McCann and Sully has said Kahun-McCann-Galch is weak on the boards. I've seen enough of Simon. Tanev has looked good there at times but it hasn't been working lately. I guess they just try ZAR and hope the increased zone time helps McCann and Kahun.

That's why they an use another wing and let those guys fit in the bottom 6.

This is way more entertaining:

https://exposingpedovore....nochrome-associated-with/
- j.boyd919

hahahah holy shat....the funny thing is I have some buddies who are deep down the rabbit hole of conspiracies and I've heard or read about most all of that before.

More entertaining indeed.

hahahah holy shat....the funny thing is I have some buddies who are deep down the rabbit hole of conspiracies and I've heard or read about most all of that before.

More entertaining indeed.
- MattStrat

Hahahah yeah I have a buddy they sent me that. It’s bananalands.