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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Dec 11 @ 4:18 PM ET
All players are open for criticism on this site except for Jack (sure) Reinhart and Skinner

Dahlin, you can criticize but predicate with "l like Dahlin but"

All others, open for business

- GilPerreault11


This is just not true. You can criticize all you want. Hope for more, sure. Say he sucks because of a 13 game sample size (while he's had 4 points in the last 4 games I might add) you're gonna get called out. Would the world be gravy if he scored his 40 goals one game on one game off, sure. The world doesn't work that way though.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 4:19 PM ET
This is just not true. You can criticize all you want. Hope for more, sure. Say he sucks because of a 13 game sample size (while he's had 4 points in the last 4 games I might add) you're gonna get called out. Would the world be gravy if he scored his 40 goals one game on one game off, sure. The world doesn't work that way though.
- SDSabre

Why even try and reason with that nonsense?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
Why even try and reason with that nonsense?
- sbroads24

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
2019-20 point totals

larkin 20
ehlers 24
point 21
w nylander 23
arvidsson 15
bennett 5


reinhart 25

- homiedclown


They're giving the tank era sabres a run for their money. Woof
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 11 @ 4:25 PM ET
Holy flipping Christ more of the Skinner Reinhart stuff??

After beating the defending Stanley Cup Champions on a National Broadcast last night and this is what we are still doing? It has been months of this...

How about lets talk about finding a good second line center and having the lines something like this:

Olofsson Eichel Mojo
Skinner Player X Reinhart

and then watch a true second line be able to produce?

Sheesh...

Also if that tweet was real and that's the real contract for Reinhart getting him signed for less than $8 million a year isn't bad

60 point players will get paid. Welcome to the inflated salary cap era.

Also yes lets compare players who performed above their contracts but make sure you go back to the time when they signed their current contracts and see the percentage of their teams cap hit.

Boston has guys on TREMENDOUS contracts and they are taking advantage of that.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
Holy flipping Christ more of the Skinner Reinhart stuff??

After beating the defending Stanley Cup Champions on a National Broadcast last night and this is what we are still doing? It has been months of this...

How about lets talk about finding a good second line center and having the lines something like this:

Olofsson Eichel Mojo
Skinner Player X Reinhart

and then watch a true second line be able to produce?

Sheesh...

Also if that tweet is real and that's the real contract for Reinhart getting him signed for less than $8 million a year isn't bad

60 point players will get paid. Welcome to the inflated salary cap era.

Also yes lets compare players who performed above their contracts but make sure you go back to the time when they signed their current contracts and see the percentage of their teams cap hit.

Boston has guys on TREMENDOUS contracts and they are taking advantage of that.

- Stripes77



That tweet was not real

It will be, but it's not yet
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
This is just not true. You can criticize all you want. Hope for more, sure. Say he sucks because of a 13 game sample size (while he's had 4 points in the last 4 games I might add) you're gonna get called out. Would the world be gravy if he scored his 40 goals one game on one game off, sure. The world doesn't work that way though.
- SDSabre

Skinner has 1 point in the last 4, you guys don't like when people criticize that's fine but he needs to be better
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
Holy flipping Christ more of the Skinner Reinhart stuff??

After beating the defending Stanley Cup Champions on a National Broadcast last night and this is what we are still doing? It has been months of this...

How about lets talk about finding a good second line center and having the lines something like this:

Olofsson Eichel Mojo
Skinner Player X Reinhart

and then watch a true second line be able to produce?

Sheesh...

Also if that tweet was real and that's the real contract for Reinhart getting him signed for less than $8 million a year isn't bad

60 point players will get paid. Welcome to the inflated salary cap era.

Also yes lets compare players who performed above their contracts but make sure you go back to the time when they signed their current contracts and see the percentage of their teams cap hit.

Boston has guys on TREMENDOUS contracts and they are taking advantage of that.

- Stripes77

Tragically Buffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo of the South, NC
Joined: 10.05.2018

Dec 11 @ 4:30 PM ET
Let’s do production per dollar of cap hit.

The best teams manage their cap the best.

We have 25M tied up into crap.

Sam will soon join Skinner in the overpaid quadrant.

Every single Blues player outplayed their cap hit last year, same with the Bruins (except Backes).

- Pegullaville

Buffalo has bad been for a long time and they (had) to overpay to keep players here. That is what happens when you suck for a long time. Skinner competes every night and is passionate about playing. They had to pay him. Fan base was happy at the time.
Only 4 players can be considered "true" core players at this current cap, meaning 8-12 mill. Right now it's Jack and Skin. Dahlin will also get 10 in 2 years. Sam is the wild card. They need to sign him for less than 56 Million to leave enough money for a handful of 3-5 million dollar players. If not we will have a bunch of 4th liners or no Defense. Toronto put all of their money in offense. Compare their contract to Buffalo. Is Sam > Nylander? That is the question. Matthews, Tavares, Marner with Nylander vs. Jack, Skinner, Dahlin & Sam. Sam does not compute to a core cup winning team. I like him a lot and hope he stays, issues is at what cost.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 11 @ 4:30 PM ET
That tweet was not real

It will be, but it's not yet

- jcragcrumple



I really meant the terms I know it wasn't real (I changed it to read if that tweet was real)

The terms aren't that far off and when it happens and that's what he gets this place is going to be even more unbearable
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Dec 11 @ 4:30 PM ET
Skinner has 1 point in the last 4, you guys don't like when people criticize that's fine but he needs to be better
- Buff36

pretty much the entire team needs to be better......
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
Buffalo has bad been for a long time and they (had) to overpay to keep players here. That is what happens when you suck for a long time. Skinner competes every night and is passionate about playing. They had to pay him. Fan base was happy at the time.
Only 4 players can be considered "true" core players at this current cap, meaning 8-12 mill. Right now it's Jack and Skin. Dahlin will also get 10 in 2 years. Sam is the wild card. They need to sign him for less than 56 Million to leave enough money for a handful of 3-5 million dollar players. If not we will have a bunch of 4th liners or no Defense. Toronto put all of their money in offense. Compare their contract to Buffalo. Is Sam > Nylander? That is the question. Matthews, Tavares, Marner with Nylander vs. Jack, Skinner, Dahlin & Sam. Sam does not compute to a core cup winning team. I like him a lot and hope he stays, issues is at what cost.

- Tragically Buffalo


If the Dahlin of last year returns yes he will be near $10 million but he isn't near that at the moment
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Dec 11 @ 4:32 PM ET
2019-20 point totals

larkin 20
ehlers 24
point 21
w nylander 23
arvidsson 15
bennett 5


reinhart 25

- homiedclown


Reinhart -12 assists 32 games - plays with Jack and has been on the #1 PP the entire season 2nd overall pick, 1st forward - will want at least 7.5 million per year.

Risto - 12 assists 32 games, 8th overall pick plays D and often played 2nd PP, was not QB on the PP until Dahlin got hurt.

Sorry, I expect more than our Bobby Orr/Paul Coffey
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
Holy flipping Christ more of the Skinner Reinhart stuff??

After beating the defending Stanley Cup Champions on a National Broadcast last night and this is what we are still doing? It has been months of this...

How about lets talk about finding a good second line center and having the lines something like this:

Olofsson Eichel Mojo
Skinner Player X Reinhart

and then watch a true second line be able to produce?

Sheesh...

Also if that tweet was real and that's the real contract for Reinhart getting him signed for less than $8 million a year isn't bad

60 point players will get paid. Welcome to the inflated salary cap era.

Also yes lets compare players who performed above their contracts but make sure you go back to the time when they signed their current contracts and see the percentage of their teams cap hit.

Boston has guys on TREMENDOUS contracts and they are taking advantage of that.

- Stripes77

TBF, these people are garbage.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Dec 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
Skinner has 1 point in the last 4, you guys don't like when people criticize that's fine but he needs to be better
- Buff36


See I don’t care if you criticize ( but call it like it is, he needs to finish better, or more, I think we all agree on that) and sorry, he’s had 4 points in 5 games
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
Reinhart -12 assists 32 games - plays with Jack and has been on the #1 PP the entire season 2nd overall pick, 1st forward - will want at least 7.5 million per year.

Risto - 12 assists 32 games, 8th overall pick plays D and often played 2nd PP, was not QB on the PP until Dahlin got hurt.

Sorry, I expect more than our Bobby Orr/Paul Coffey

- GilPerreault11


Most of the guys on that list get top PP time, play with other good players and will get in the neighborhood of 7M, if not more.

Just saying, the expectations may be a bit much if that's trash production for you.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
pretty much the entire team needs to be better......
- SabresFaninIndiana

Oh I agree
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
Reinhart -12 assists 32 games - plays with Jack and has been on the #1 PP the entire season 2nd overall pick, 1st forward - will want at least 7.5 million per year.

Risto - 12 assists 32 games, 8th overall pick plays D and often played 2nd PP, was not QB on the PP until Dahlin got hurt.

Sorry, I expect more than our Bobby Orr/Paul Coffey

- GilPerreault11

what does risto have to do with your hatred on reinhart?


there is room in leaf nation, perhaps you need to take your pessimistic attitude over there
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 4:51 PM ET
what does risto have to do with your hatred on reinhart?


there is room in leaf nation, perhaps you need to take your pessimistic attitude over there

- homiedclown

The hilarious thing here, is that Risto has gotten assists lately because Reinhart has deflected 3 of his shots in the net.

Gil's ignorance knows no bounds
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 4:54 PM ET
That tweet was not real

It will be, but it's not yet

- jcragcrumple



So your saying over 8 million per?

Your definitely consistent
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 11 @ 4:55 PM ET
The hilarious thing here, is that Risto has gotten assists lately because Reinhart has deflected 3 of his shots in the net.

Gil's ignorance knows no bounds

- sbroads24

he can hop on the seattle express


Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 11 @ 4:57 PM ET
Oh Sam sucks again.......


Sam sucks because Leon has 54 and same has 25

If those same people think that. Eichel must suck too. He has 44 and Mcdavid has 55.

Both are busts in some people’s eyes
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 11 @ 4:58 PM ET
Skinner has 1 point in the last 4, you guys don't like when people criticize that's fine but he needs to be better
- Buff36


Yes, although he disappears on the scoresheet, skins is an exciting player always. Especially in person.
*doesnt really mean anything

You can see the frustration building.
I'm predicting 10 goals in the next 12 games or less
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 11 @ 4:58 PM ET
So your saying over 8 million per?

Your definitely consistent

- Boss34


60/8 is $7.5, but close
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
60/8 is $7.5, but close
- jcragcrumple

I'm still laughing over the Bobby Orr/Paul Coffey expectations from Risto


something must be in the water in WNY
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