The part that is concerning about Botterill is that he's adamant that he won't lose a player for nothing.

with 10 (maybe more) players on expiring deals, he can't expect to get something for all of them.

Even worse, he can't want to resign all of them.
- thatsapickle

I’d move Sheary for a Klondike Bar

I've read proposals from several Pens fans over the past month or so. Most recent proposal was Galchenyuk, Ruhwedel and a 2nd or 3rd for Scandella. Obviously money doesn't work and we have no need for Ruhwedel, but if they want to give us Galy and a pick for Marco I'm all for it.
- adambuffalo

I would do this also. Pilut can play great alongside Joker too.

The part that is concerning about Botterill is that he's adamant that he won't lose a player for nothing.

with 10 (maybe more) players on expiring deals, he can't expect to get something for all of them.

Even worse, he can't want to resign all of them.
- thatsapickle

I'm concerned as well. I'd like to think there's a difference between a UFA and RFA in that regard, but I'm still nervous that he's going to bring back too many.

I'm concerned as well. I'd like to think there's a difference between a UFA and RFA in that regard, but I'm still nervous that he's going to bring back too many.
- Lunaion

Out of our impending UFA’s I’d hope only Larsson (might even still be an RFA) is back. Vesey and Scandella would get a consideration but both are definitely replaceable.

I would do this also. Pilut can play great alongside Joker too.
- Pegullaville

Gally and a pick for Scandella I think is the type of hockey trade that works for both sides (hell, even straight up). Though I haven't really seen him play much since his days in Montreal, I would think that he would be an upgrade over, sheary, mitts, probably vesey, erod and too early to tell on Asplund.

Out of our impending UFA’s I’d hope only Larsson (might even still be an RFA) is back. Vesey and Scandella would get a consideration but both are definitely replaceable.
- Pegullaville

how much of a raise would you pay him and continue to be happy with him?
2.0
2.5
3
3.5

Personally I would keep him and Gus if I can have both at 2 or under

From what I am hearing Pittsburgh called Buffalo on Gally

Is that true 89?
- Stripes77

Not what I heard, he's a LW/ Center, why do we need another LW.

I would definitely shoot higher than Kreider and Galchenyuk.

That's just my useless $0.02.
- thatsapickle

Kreider is a LW, We do not need anymore LW's, it's Center and RW we need.

Not what I heard, he's a LW/ Center, why do we need another LW.
- SABRES 89

Maybe we want to impose a 3 D 2 LW system and overload one side of the ice
Gotta think outside off the box

Tonight's forward lines:

Gilmour-Dahlin-Risto
Miller-Montour-Joker
Scandella-Bogo-Borgen
Mccabe-Nelson-pilut

I would switch Nelson and Pilut but it's not my call
- jcragcrumple

Well done.

If EK is right (which he never is), we'll end up with LW Kreider. You could probably put together a line-up of Left Wingers as well.

I mean we are sitting in 2nd in the Atlantic. I’d rather him be patient and make the right trade then a stupid one.
- Pegullaville

McCabe and a 4th for Athanasiou (cap net +200k)
Scandella for Galchenyuk (net +900k)
Miller and Sheary for Toffoli (net -$2.3m)
Erod and a 2nd for Kreider (net +$2.6m)
Half Bogo retained for future considerations (a christmas card would be nice) (net $-2.5)
Send Mittelstadt down (net $-1m)

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Mojo-Athanasiou
Kreider-Galchenyuk-Toffoli
Lockport trio
Vesey

Montour-Risto
Dahlin-Borgen
Pilut-Joker
Gilmour

Net cap change of 200k


Have at it

Out of our impending UFA’s I’d hope only Larsson (might even still be an RFA) is back. Vesey and Scandella would get a consideration but both are definitely replaceable.
- Pegullaville

I think most people would be fine with 2 coming back, not counting AHL guys. Hoping it's not more than that.

I've read proposals from several Pens fans over the past month or so. Most recent proposal was Galchenyuk, Ruhwedel and a 2nd or 3rd for Scandella. Obviously money doesn't work and we have no need for Ruhwedel, but if they want to give us Galy and a pick for Marco I'm all for it.
- adambuffalo

They are begging to throw him in the trash.

They are begging to throw him in the trash.
- TheSabresTaco

Like if that’s the big move, what are we even trying to do?

I just can't understand why anyone would want Galchenyuk, he's a bad, lazy hockey player that has been traded 3 times now.

as long as sobotka stays on IR no rush

and sobotka might be out for the season
- homiedclown

Well then how is he gonna sign pommer?

I was told to relax in July, trades happen in Aug/Sept
I was told in Sept to relax until Training camp was over
At the start of the season, I was told trades were on hold until Pilut and Bogo were back...they needed the extra guys in the event of injuries
Bogo and Pilut are back...
-Botts likes his D depth
-Cap is keeping teams from trading
-LTIR is keeping Teams from trading

Fast forward,
Can't trade due to Xmas break
Need to wait to closer to TDL
Too many teams "in it" to make moves...no real offers for our rentals

Botts,
- extends Scandy, Bogo, Sheary, Vesey, Girgs, Larsson, and Sobotka saying he doesn't want to lose assets for nothing
- signs Galchenyuk to 5 x $6m, Kreider to 6 x $6.5
- IonSabres

Relax

McCabe and a 4th for Athanasiou (cap net +200k)
Scandella for Galchenyuk (net +900k)
Miller and Sheary for Toffoli (net -$2.3m)
Erod and a 2nd for Kreider (net +$2.6m)
Half Bogo retained for future considerations (a christmas card would be nice) (net $-2.5)
Send Mittelstadt down (net $-1m)

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Mojo-Athanasiou
Kreider-Galchenyuk-Toffoli
Lockport trio
Vesey

Montour-Risto
Dahlin-Borgen
Pilut-Joker
Gilmour

Net cap change of 200k


Have at it
- jcragcrumple

YOU PERSONS!

Relax
- Powerslave

Well done.
I need to mirror Jason I guess

The part that is concerning about Botterill is that he's adamant that he won't lose a player for nothing.

with 10 (maybe more) players on expiring deals, he can't expect to get something for all of them.

Even worse, he can't want to resign all of them.
- thatsapickle

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't trade...What do you do?

I mean we are sitting in 2nd in the Atlantic. I’d rather him be patient and make the right trade then a stupid one.
- Pegullaville

I agree that rushing just to Do Something wouldn't be wise. Sitting in 2nd place sounds really good, but they are 1pt ahead of 4th place (out of playoff spot), and only 3 pts up on 6th place TB, who has three games in hand.
Places will be flip flopping almost daily unless/until one of the five can go on a run and separate themselves from the pack.

YOU PERSONS!
- IonSabres

It's not my dream moves by any means but

- it's all trade targets that are said to be available
- the money works
-no high-end murrancy lost (no firsts)
- only things of value for us are a 2nd, 4th and Miller
- addresses forward needs
- mitts can go to Roch

Moves can be made. It remains to be seen if Botterill is willing to do something

Out of our impending UFA’s I’d hope only Larsson (might even still be an RFA) is back. Vesey and Scandella would get a consideration but both are definitely replaceable.
- Pegullaville

Is keep Vesey over Larsson or Scandella. Scandella will be the only one with loaner value at the deadline. Should fetch us a 3rd or 4th

Not what I heard, he's a LW/ Center, why do we need another LW.
- SABRES 89

Stick his a$$ on the dot and move mojo to wing. Didn’t you say gally is grumpy cause he wants to play center... fine, here ya go guy, here is a center position and a $9 million dollar winger. Go do something in a contract year you stiff. And if it cost us scandella and erod, so be it....

I just can't understand why anyone would want Galchenyuk, he's a bad, lazy hockey player that has been traded 3 times now.
- SABRES 89

Correct, I’m playing Vesey over him any day