Once we get rid of Seabrook, Toews and Kane we'll be fine.
- rpeters01

I predict that happening in the next few weeks along with JC and Stanbo getting their pink slips...maybe in time for the Holidays Just for the BOD.

Nonetheless, Belichek has shown no hesitancy to move on from players he has had success with in the past, rather than overpay or overstay them.
- BMWChiFan

Basically Brady is the one he's stuck with. Doesn't want to see Gisselle leave.

AEL, first thanks for keeping us up to date on Rockford, much appreciated. As far as Gus, there’s no way he brings back a first, but I hope I’m wrong.
- Angotti

You bet, Angotti. A first rounder may have been possible over the summer and even more at the last TDL but not now.

yep..nfl contracts are front loaded with signing bonuses and no guarantee on term..
the nhl compensation system/hard cap is a lousy buisness model and the stupidity of the owners penalizing themselves for legitimate contracts before the 2012 lock out with recapture penalties...
- bogiedoc

I don't think many NHL owners could afford the upfront cash hit. The NFL commissioner makes $40m a year.

That is exactly what I posted on last blog. Trade him at TDL, or sooner if possible, get as much as possible and move on from this guy. Maybe get a good young forward, or draft pick.
- Angotti

Is there a rule on trading free agents in their signing year other leagues you can't do that?

What is wrong with so many Blackhawk fans? Did any of you really think the team wasn't going to regress before it could move forward? Do/did you seriously believe a team that had all that success, had to move out prospects and draft picks to try to bolster the team to win or to stay cap compliant, who drafted later in the draft for close to 10 years could and who have a core of aging players whose best days/games are behind them would suddenly be any more than they currently are?

To all those wanting deperately to point fingers of blame, it's not Bowman, It's not Colliton or McD or the media or Toews or whomever. That's not to say any of the aformentioned are doing everything right and can't be critisized but the finger of blame should be pointed directly at what we as fans we so happy about, but apparantly took for granted, the blame is on Success, on 3 Stanley cups and on the best period in Chicago Blackhawk history.

Personally I'll sit back and enjoy the rebuild, hopefully I'll see a similar repeat on 2008 when we witnessed the Hawks turning a corner from a joke franchise to the premier team from 2009 to 2016. I find it much easier than whining, bellyaching and not understanding why the Hawks are where they are today.
- paulr

Paul, the Hawks have no valid excuses for their current plight.

Remember when the Canadiens, Islanders, Oilers and Devils were great - they declined into mediocrity for a reason - there was no Hockeybuzz to refer to for great ideas and correct solutions. But that's not the case now. If McD and Rocky and Bowman had paid attention starting in 2016 to what the posters on this site were recommending they would still be a contender and not in salary cap jail. They ignored all of it and are now paying a high price.

Mark Hunter will wind up somewhere and I’d guess it’ll be where he wants to end up.

The offer sheets Uncle Dale was responsible for?
- paulr

The offer sheets would have the assistant GM standing at the Fax machine and you would think reminding the GM when they must be sent. That was definitely a conspiracy.

Paul, the Hawks have no valid excuses for their current plight.

Remember when the Canadiens, Islanders, Oilers and Devils were great - they declined into mediocrity for a reason - there was no Hockeybuzz to refer to for great ideas and correct solutions. But that's not the case now. If McD and Rocky and Bowman had paid attention starting in 2016 to what the posters on this site were recommending they would still be a contender and not in salary cap jail. They ignored all of it and are now paying a high price.
- RickJ

I should have known I could count on you Rick for clarifying it. Here I was thinking it was complicated.

Once we get rid of Seabrook, Toews and Kane we'll be fine.
- rpeters01

Who is coming along that's gonna need big money in the next couple years? Strome won't be huge. Savings coming at goalie.

They have a talent issue. Once they solve that they'll have a cap issue.

Paul, the Hawks have no valid excuses for their current plight.

Remember when the Canadiens, Islanders, Oilers and Devils were great - they declined into mediocrity for a reason - there was no Hockeybuzz to refer to for great ideas and correct solutions. But that's not the case now. If McD and Rocky and Bowman had paid attention starting in 2016 to what the posters on this site were recommending they would still be a contender and not in salary cap jail. They ignored all of it and are now paying a high price.
- RickJ

Then take one step back - if Rocky, in 2016, had appointed us collectively as GM.....

We could have voted on every move....They’re apparently already being generally managed - and coached - by committee vote anyways.

What is wrong with so many Blackhawk fans? Did any of you really think the team wasn't going to regress before it could move forward? Do/did you seriously believe a team that had all that success, had to move out prospects and draft picks to try to bolster the team to win or to stay cap compliant, who drafted later in the draft for close to 10 years could and who have a core of aging players whose best days/games are behind them would suddenly be any more than they currently are?

To all those wanting deperately to point fingers of blame, it's not Bowman, It's not Colliton or McD or the media or Toews or whomever. That's not to say any of the aformentioned are doing everything right and can't be critisized but the finger of blame should be pointed directly at what we as fans we so happy about, but apparantly took for granted, the blame is on Success, on 3 Stanley cups and on the best period in Chicago Blackhawk history.

Personally I'll sit back and enjoy the rebuild, hopefully I'll see a similar repeat on 2008 when we witnessed the Hawks turning a corner from a joke franchise to the premier team from 2009 to 2016. I find it much easier than whining, bellyaching and not understanding why the Hawks are where they are today.
- paulr

Bravo, Chief, well said. Now go bench press some trees.

Paul, the Hawks have no valid excuses for their current plight.

Remember when the Canadiens, Islanders, Oilers and Devils were great - they declined into mediocrity for a reason - there was no Hockeybuzz to refer to for great ideas and correct solutions. But that's not the case now. If McD and Rocky and Bowman had paid attention starting in 2016 to what the posters on this site were recommending they would still be a contender and not in salary cap jail. They ignored all of it and are now paying a high price.
- RickJ

Sure they do. They've been laid out here ad nauseam. You just don't agree.

What is wrong with so many Blackhawk fans? Did any of you really think the team wasn't going to regress before it could move forward? Do/did you seriously believe a team that had all that success, had to move out prospects and draft picks to try to bolster the team to win or to stay cap compliant, who drafted later in the draft for close to 10 years could and who have a core of aging players whose best days/games are behind them would suddenly be any more than they currently are?

To all those wanting deperately to point fingers of blame, it's not Bowman, It's not Colliton or McD or the media or Toews or whomever. That's not to say any of the aformentioned are doing everything right and can't be critisized but the finger of blame should be pointed directly at what we as fans we so happy about, but apparantly took for granted, the blame is on Success, on 3 Stanley cups and on the best period in Chicago Blackhawk history.

Personally I'll sit back and enjoy the rebuild, hopefully I'll see a similar repeat on 2008 when we witnessed the Hawks turning a corner from a joke franchise to the premier team from 2009 to 2016. I find it much easier than whining, bellyaching and not understanding why the Hawks are where they are today.
- paulr

You’re right, Paul.

Question is - who is best to lead the rebuild, the renaissance - Bowman and Colliton, or....

(I can’t believe we’re re-litigating the contract submission screw-up of 10 years ago).

What is wrong with so many Blackhawk fans? Did any of you really think the team wasn't going to regress before it could move forward? Do/did you seriously believe a team that had all that success, had to move out prospects and draft picks to try to bolster the team to win or to stay cap compliant, who drafted later in the draft for close to 10 years could and who have a core of aging players whose best days/games are behind them would suddenly be any more than they currently are?

To all those wanting deperately to point fingers of blame, it's not Bowman, It's not Colliton or McD or the media or Toews or whomever. That's not to say any of the aformentioned are doing everything right and can't be critisized but the finger of blame should be pointed directly at what we as fans we so happy about, but apparantly took for granted, the blame is on Success, on 3 Stanley cups and on the best period in Chicago Blackhawk history.

Personally I'll sit back and enjoy the rebuild, hopefully I'll see a similar repeat on 2008 when we witnessed the Hawks turning a corner from a joke franchise to the premier team from 2009 to 2016. I find it much easier than whining, bellyaching and not understanding why the Hawks are where they are today.
- paulr

Yes your very right .It don't bother me that much were we are ,anybody chirps me about the HAWKS and I just calmly explain that what 3 cups get ya . They will usually leave tail between their legs .Lot Leaf Wings fans around here but my favorite ones to torment are the still the Canuck fans ,not so much anymore .But watch out for that Canuck tean now
I just wonder if Stan the man to be the architect of a rebuild. I still don't think to many big calls are his alone and that to bad ,we need someone hockey smart and played the game respected around the league to grab this team and put his stamp on it right or wrong I hope not wrong . Mark Hunter to me and( I know beating dead horse ) is the best available young smart GM prospect out there .He really understands the younger players from his time in and around the very successful London Knights of the OHL
I regress I will always be a HAWKS fan and what ever insane move they make next I will still be hear to complain .Consider myself a super fan ,but I will occasionally flip to another game when watching the HAWKS if it gets predictably bad .Guess I have flaws just like the HAWKS lol .Waiting for 2020 and another decade highs and lows with the HAWKS !!!

What is wrong with so many Blackhawk fans? Did any of you really think the team wasn't going to regress before it could move forward? Do/did you seriously believe a team that had all that success, had to move out prospects and draft picks to try to bolster the team to win or to stay cap compliant, who drafted later in the draft for close to 10 years could and who have a core of aging players whose best days/games are behind them would suddenly be any more than they currently are?

To all those wanting deperately to point fingers of blame, it's not Bowman, It's not Colliton or McD or the media or Toews or whomever. That's not to say any of the aformentioned are doing everything right and can't be critisized but the finger of blame should be pointed directly at what we as fans we so happy about, but apparantly took for granted, the blame is on Success, on 3 Stanley cups and on the best period in Chicago Blackhawk history.

Personally I'll sit back and enjoy the rebuild, hopefully I'll see a similar repeat on 2008 when we witnessed the Hawks turning a corner from a joke franchise to the premier team from 2009 to 2016. I find it much easier than whining, bellyaching and not understanding why the Hawks are where they are today.
- paulr

yes good times and championships begits bad times and mediocrity. I will stick with hockey: early 80's isles, the 80's oilers, the 70's habs, early 90's pens, wings had nice 16 year run from the early 90's -2010, 2009-2016 hawks, 2012 - 2015 kings.

only one of those organization has come back the 2016-2018 pens...the isles, habs are on their 4th decade of ups and downs, the wings hawks and kings are clearly in down swings...teams assembling generational talent and cashing in are rare. there is no guarantee the hawks will ever be the team they were in the next 5, 10 or 30 years..

other teams had a window but couldn't get it done recently: the nucks, sharks, bruins, preds...

They're still entertaining. This meltdown is pretty funny. Still can't believe the young Henri trade. But here we are.

Looking forward to lehner losing his mind and the core demanding he get moved. That'll be fun.

Probably time to refresh the front office.

Who is coming along that's gonna need big money in the next couple years? Strome won't be huge. Savings coming at goalie.

They have a talent issue. Once they solve that they'll have a cap issue.
- mohel

Talent is terrible, it's not like Dinky and Strome are going to take you anywhere in the playoffs...

Then take one step back - if Rocky, in 2016, had appointed us collectively as GM.....

We could have voted on every move....They’re apparently already being generally managed - and coached - by committee vote anyways.
- StLBravesFan

Clearly that was and is the solution. Power of the people of Hockeybuzz.

Apparently John McDonough has never bothered to pay attention to dictators like himself - he should know what eventually happened to Idi Amin, Papa Doc Duvalier, Muammar Gadhafi, Saddam Hussain and many others. Much worse is yet to come for you John ...........

I nominate Bernie Sanders to replace Bowman effective immediately.

I wonder if there is a sign on Bob Pulford - In case of a GM firing, hire me!

Clearly that was and is the solution. Power of the people of Hockeybuzz.

Apparently John McDonough has never bothered to pay attention to dictators like himself - he should know what eventually happened to Idi Amin, Papa Doc Duvalier, Muammar Gadhafi, Saddam Hussain and many others. Much worse is yet to come for you John ...........

I nominate Bernie Sanders to replace Bowman effective immediately.
- RickJ

Keenan for GM. Torts for coach.

Sage and Oldman, valid point(s) about the rebuild and while my point wasn’t addressing that, I’m on board to discuss. As Hawk fans we should realize the team is currently in the lower part of the standings because of the team’s incredible success.

As for the rebuild I have no idea if Bowman and Colliton are, or are not, the right guys? Bowman’s done some very good things and not so good things in his time as GM. If I could think of a GM who was perfect and made all the correct moves while making no bad ones I’d point to him as the next GM the Hawk’s should target. What Bowman hasn’t done, yet, is show he can build a team to contend. But the Great Uncle Dale had never built a contending team, until he built the Blackhawks. I think Bowman deserves some time to try to get the Hawks turned around. But if he can’t, then, like anyone in any line of work he has to be relieved of his duty for someone else to try to make the Hawk’s a contender. Like Oldman I’d be interested to see if Mark Hunter would be that man.

Bravo, Chief, well said. Now go bench press some trees.
- mohel

I’ll have you know I just took a pace from JJ’s manual on how to put on 20 lbs of unused muscle, I carried a blue spruce from the garage into my living room. That was after I sucked back three apple fritters and a quart of homo milk.

Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
CHI will NOT be releasing Kirby Dach to Team CAN. He will remain with the NHL club.

appears dach will not get a break from losing

I’ll have you know I just took a pace from JJ’s manual on how to put on 20 lbs of unused muscle, I carried a blue spruce from the garage into my living room. That was after I sucked back three apple fritters and a quart of homo milk.
- paulr

Apropos of nothing:

We (or, at least, Boomers like me) grew up on whole milk - I can’t drink skim or 2% or whatever. It was part of “this good breakfast” (cereal, two eggs, bacon, whole milk - those were the commercials).

My granddaughters (7 and 4) hate the taste of whole milk - won’t drink it.

Overpay
- jhawk59

You’re right, we need to add....