Bogo going public for a trade is further evidence that Botts is a bad GM. What did Botts think would happen when a player like Bogo is sitting while McCabe is playing? If I were Bogo I would do the same.

Mittelstadt scratched? Why the hell hasn’t he been sent down to Rochester months ago to properly develop? How was sitting in the press box and playing minimal minutes helping his development?

We have neophytic ownership and management and it’s embarrassing. Steps should have been taken last off-season to properly deal with the logjam at defense and shortcomings of the forward depth. When you have 8+ NHL defensemen and so few quality forwards that you have an undeveloped draft pick playing third center and a fourth liner playing a top six role, it’s a problem.

Not to mention that we have other problems brewing with players like Pilut and Gilmour not getting NHL ice time they feel they deserve. I am sure they are both looking to get out of here ASAP.

This is mismanagement plain and simple. It is part of the GM’s job to look ahead and foresee these things happening. We have had a player morale issue in this organization for years and it’s not getting any better. This is unacceptable.

Yet again we are a joke and TP is too simple to even realize that he should be embarrassed.
- Beethoven

What is a player like Bogo? A pylon lacking in movement or speed, like a broken down 2 decade old Chevy that likely needs the scrap heap?

What is a player like Bogo? A pylon lacking in movement or speed, like a broken down 2 decade old Chevy that likely needs the scrap heap?
- kingcong39

2 seized wheel bearings and the leaf springs in the back are cracked. Runs and drives. No tire kickers, I know what I have

To clarify, you're not suggesting it would take all three of the bolded above to trade for Hoffman, are you?
- kingcong39

No way I'd give all that for an expiring contract

No way I'd give all that for an expiring contract
- Powerslave

Nobody sane would. Not sure if the guy was serious or delusional.

No way I'd give all that for an expiring contract
- Powerslave

cliff pu type prospect
2nd and a 3rd is the most he should get

2 seized wheel bearings and the leaf springs in the back are cracked. Runs and drives. No tire kickers, I know what I have
- jcragcrumple

He's trying to do 60 on the highway but he's only doing 30 while sparks are flying from the 3 flat tires and 2 broken axles, riding the rotors to Bolivion (Mike Tyson reference for those old enough to remember it).

Bogo going public for a trade is further evidence that Botts is a bad GM. What did Botts think would happen when a player like Bogo is sitting while McCabe is playing? If I were Bogo I would do the same.

Mittelstadt scratched? Why the hell hasn’t he been sent down to Rochester months ago to properly develop? How was sitting in the press box and playing minimal minutes helping his development?

We have neophytic ownership and management and it’s embarrassing. Steps should have been taken last off-season to properly deal with the logjam at defense and shortcomings of the forward depth. When you have 8+ NHL defensemen and so few quality forwards that you have an undeveloped draft pick playing third center and a fourth liner playing a top six role, it’s a problem.

Not to mention that we have other problems brewing with players like Pilut and Gilmour not getting NHL ice time they feel they deserve. I am sure they are both looking to get out of here ASAP.

This is mismanagement plain and simple. It is part of the GM’s job to look ahead and foresee these things happening. We have had a player morale issue in this organization for years and it’s not getting any better. This is unacceptable.

Yet again we are a joke and TP is too simple to even realize that he should be embarrassed.
- Beethoven

Maybe by the end of the year. Right now though I don’t think people are laughing at us too much. There is still time though

Nobody sane would. Not sure if the guy was serious or delusional.
- kingcong39

https://www.espn.com/nhl/standings

Bogo going public for a trade is further evidence that Botts is a bad GM. What did Botts think would happen when a player like Bogo is sitting while McCabe is playing? If I were Bogo I would do the same.

Mittelstadt scratched? Why the hell hasn’t he been sent down to Rochester months ago to properly develop? How was sitting in the press box and playing minimal minutes helping his development?

We have neophytic ownership and management and it’s embarrassing. Steps should have been taken last off-season to properly deal with the logjam at defense and shortcomings of the forward depth. When you have 8+ NHL defensemen and so few quality forwards that you have an undeveloped draft pick playing third center and a fourth liner playing a top six role, it’s a problem.

Not to mention that we have other problems brewing with players like Pilut and Gilmour not getting NHL ice time they feel they deserve. I am sure they are both looking to get out of here ASAP.

This is mismanagement plain and simple. It is part of the GM’s job to look ahead and foresee these things happening. We have had a player morale issue in this organization for years and it’s not getting any better. This is unacceptable.

Yet again we are a joke and TP is too simple to even realize that he should be embarrassed.
- Beethoven

Go away troll

Nobody sane would. Not sure if the guy was serious or delusional.
- kingcong39

What, never said all of them, would I try Mitts and a pick, yes, a Dman and a pick, yes, but also said wouldn't do the trade unless Hoffman extended.

What, never said all of them, would I try Mitts and a pick, yes, a Dman and a pick, yes, but also said wouldn't do the trade unless Hoffman extended.
- Buff36

He's gotta be looking for at least $7m/6 years. Another thing to consider is he did half of his scoring on the PP last year - 35 points. There's only so much ice time on PP1. It's a tough one.

He's gotta be looking for at least $7m/6 years. Another thing to consider is he did half of his scoring on the PP last year - 35 points. There's only so much ice time on PP1. It's a tough one.
- jcragcrumple

Fine, but everybody is calling for a 2C or a RW, he is just as good as Rhino. Would give us a nice 1-2 punch at RW.

Nobody sane would. Not sure if the guy was serious or delusional.
- kingcong39

🤪 Lol, see the comment that I replied to. I just filled in "Dman" with Borgen. I agree it's a haul for an impending UFA, (but to get Hoff from a division rival probably would take a ridiculous offer.) I think the original comment might've meant if the Sabres were allowed to negotiate/reach deal with Hoff before trade, you'll have to ask him.

Fine, but everybody is calling for a 2C or a RW, he is just as good as Rhino. Would give us a nice 1-2 punch at RW.
- Buff36

As a pure rental, I'm in for a 2nd rounder, a d man and a low-end prospect. If we're trading Mittelstadt, I'd want a guy with RFA years or at least 3+ years on a reasonable UFA contract

Bogo going public for a trade is further evidence that Botts is a bad GM. What did Botts think would happen when a player like Bogo is sitting while McCabe is playing? If I were Bogo I would do the same.

Mittelstadt scratched? Why the hell hasn’t he been sent down to Rochester months ago to properly develop? How was sitting in the press box and playing minimal minutes helping his development?

We have neophytic ownership and management and it’s embarrassing. Steps should have been taken last off-season to properly deal with the logjam at defense and shortcomings of the forward depth. When you have 8+ NHL defensemen and so few quality forwards that you have an undeveloped draft pick playing third center and a fourth liner playing a top six role, it’s a problem.

Not to mention that we have other problems brewing with players like Pilut and Gilmour not getting NHL ice time they feel they deserve. I am sure they are both looking to get out of here ASAP.

This is mismanagement plain and simple. It is part of the GM’s job to look ahead and foresee these things happening. We have had a player morale issue in this organization for years and it’s not getting any better. This is unacceptable.

Yet again we are a joke and TP is too simple to even realize that he should be embarrassed.
- Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOk8Tm815lE

First an foremost Zach Bogosian requesting a trade is the least of this team's and Jason Botterill's problems.

Zach Bogosian being a healthy scratch instead of an injured scratch for a change is a breath of fresh air because it shows the team that Kruger isn't afraid to sit a veteran player.

Even if Botterill moved one of his healthy d-men before DJ Bogo made his return Bogo should still be sitting (in his rotation with McCabe)

Having 8 NHL defensemen is great if they were all quality D-Men.

Guys like Bogo and to start the season Scandella had almost ZERO trade value (Bogo still has next to no trade value)

Risto was the one defensemen that looked like they could get something decent for, but Botterill was actually smart and knew the value he would get for him was at it's lowest. Him holding on to him is paying off as of late.

Bogo taking his turntables and wanting out is an issue. He needs to look in the mirror.

Perhaps you and Bogo should read this thread from the coach:

https://twitter.com/Buffa...tatus/1205542937507115015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOk8Tm815lE

First an foremost Zach Bogosian requesting a trade is the least of this team's and Jason Botterill's problems.

Zach Bogosian being a healthy scratch instead of an injured scratch for a change is a breath of fresh air because it shows the team that Kruger isn't afraid to sit a veteran player.

Even if Botterill moved one of his healthy d-men before DJ Bogo made his return Bogo should still be sitting (in his rotation with McCabe)

Having 8 NHL defensemen is great if they were all quality D-Men.

Guys like Bogo and to start the season Scandella had almost ZERO trade value (Bogo still has next to no trade value)

Risto was the one defensemen that looked like they could get something decent for, but Botterill was actually smart and knew the value he would get for him was at it's lowest. Him holding on to him is paying off as of late.

Bogo taking his turntables and wanting out is an issue. He needs to look in the mirror.

Perhaps you and Bogo should read this thread from the coach:

https://twitter.com/Buffa...tatus/1205542937507115015
- Stripes77

so when the coach says they are going to rotate the d men, and it's bogo's turn to sit out, he packs his toys and pouts


anything but a professional IMO

He's trying to do 60 on the highway but he's only doing 30 while sparks are flying from the 3 flat tires and 2 broken axles, riding the rotors to Bolivion (Mike Tyson reference for those old enough to remember it).
- kingcong39

Into Bolivion.... Lmao I remember him saying that. His post fight rants were the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOk8Tm815lE

First an foremost Zach Bogosian requesting a trade is the least of this team's and Jason Botterill's problems.

Zach Bogosian being a healthy scratch instead of an injured scratch for a change is a breath of fresh air because it shows the team that Kruger isn't afraid to sit a veteran player.

Even if Botterill moved one of his healthy d-men before DJ Bogo made his return Bogo should still be sitting (in his rotation with McCabe)

Having 8 NHL defensemen is great if they were all quality D-Men.

Guys like Bogo and to start the season Scandella had almost ZERO trade value (Bogo still has next to no trade value)

Risto was the one defensemen that looked like they could get something decent for, but Botterill was actually smart and knew the value he would get for him was at it's lowest. Him holding on to him is paying off as of late.

Bogo taking his turntables and wanting out is an issue. He needs to look in the mirror.

Perhaps you and Bogo should read this thread from the coach:

https://twitter.com/Buffa...tatus/1205542937507115015
- Stripes77

The one thing I would say is Miller probably has value. Maybe not as much as Botterill paid, but he has value

so when the coach says they are going to rotate the d men, and it's bogo's turn to sit out, he packs his toys and pouts


anything but a professional IMO
- homiedclown

Correct

The dude has played in what 60% of games in a Sabres uniform due to injuries and now he is going to cry about being a healthy scratch?

It's a contract year for him hope he enjoys sitting in the press box

Correct

The dude has played in what 60% of games in a Sabres uniform due to injuries and now he is going to cry about being a healthy scratch?

It's a contract year for him hope he enjoys sitting in the press box
- Stripes77

housley never had the stones to do this

we would be seeing joker in the presser

housley never had the stones to do this

we would be seeing joker in the presser
- homiedclown

This is so true. Or he never would have made the team

Into Bolivion.... Lmao I remember him saying that. His post fight rants were the best
- Ratsreign

I'm going to fade into Bolivian is an all time post game reaction 😅😂

🤪 Lol, see the comment that I replied to. I just filled in "Dman" with Borgen. I agree it's a haul for an impending UFA, (but to get Hoff from a division rival probably would take a ridiculous offer.) I think the original comment might've meant if the Sabres were allowed to negotiate/reach deal with Hoff before trade, you'll have to ask him.
- Ratsreign

I get that you'd want a lot, a top 10 pick, a quality Dman prospect who is likely NHL ready now, and a 1st or 2nd round pick is too much. A cost that high makes it a go for it now move, and that isn't the Sabres.

I get that you'd want a lot, a top 10 pick, a quality Dman prospect who is likely NHL ready now, and a 1st or 2nd round pick is too much. A cost that high makes it a go for it now move, and that isn't the Sabres.
- kingcong39

Kevin Hayes got a 1st and a prospect but he plays center. I feel like a pair of 2nds gets Hoffman if they're selling.

I get that you'd want a lot, a top 10 pick, a quality Dman prospect who is likely NHL ready now, and a 1st or 2nd round pick is too much. A cost that high makes it a go for it now move, and that isn't the Sabres.
- kingcong39

I don't know what it would take, but the only reason he has come up is because Florida will not be able to afford his next contract. They will need D help soon because they have 3 D on there team that are 33 or older. And D is one thing we have.