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Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Dec 13 @ 3:23 PM ET
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM ET
Wow great answer! Feels good to lose in the second round twice in what? 30 years
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM ET
Don’t even respond to the douche nozzle.
Panarin signed with the Rags because his wife/girlfriend wanted to be in NYC for her career. LA was choice #2.
He really will get more money per game playing for the Rags because there are no PO games

- nyisles7


My understanding was Panarin's first choice was LA, but the Kings weren't interested in throwing that much money at him since they're at the beginning of a rebuild and won't be relevant for (at least) the first half of his contract.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Dec 13 @ 3:28 PM ET
My understanding was Panarin's first choice was LA, but the Kings weren't interested in throwing that much money at him since they're at the beginning of a rebuild and won't be relevant for (at least) the first half of his contract.
- tkecanuck341

Options are like bumholes everybody’s got one so you don’t mind if we play the games and see how it works out thanks carry on!
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:29 PM ET
They don’t have to look any further than Hutchison. Give the guy a break and play some good hockey in front of him. Hang him out to dry then he’s an easy target while the rest just sit back and count the money they received for what they may do down the road.
If you really want to hammer down on anyone take another look at the front office. At one time the leafs had more good backup goalies than any team then some real bad decisions were made.

- Camel


Who were all of these good backups? McElhinney? He's pretty much the only good backup they've had in recent history. Unless you're going back to Reimer and Bernier...in that case we had two OK backups. Hutchinson is awful. Leafs allow lots of shots, so you better have a guy who can play good hockey every now and then.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 3:36 PM ET
As much as it pains me to give the Rangers advice - they should trade Georgiev (sp) as they have the other Russian in the AHL and he's supposed to be even better.

The popular thought is that the Rangers rebuild is over but it isn't. A first round from TOR would go a long way to building back a depleted young core. Panerin and Trouba are nice but that isn't going to cut it in the Metro or anywhere in the East. They need more talent and this move gives them a cheap, no-pain solution.

TOR has little to no choice right now. Their window is OPEN and they need to go for it.

- flyersfaninLA


You are correct in almost every aspect here.
The Rangers young core is no longer depleted. The rebuild is most certainly not over, but with all the top round picks we've had in the last few years, there are as many more prospects that will be breaking the door down in the next couple of years as we currently have with the big club.
Not saying there isn't still work to be done, or that we can't still improve. Just that the best is yet to come!

...and, I agree that they most likely should trade Georgie soon. I'd love to hang on to him, but I don't see how they can.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
You are correct in almost every aspect here.
The Rangers young core is no longer depleted. The rebuild is most certainly not over, but with all the top round picks we've had in the last few years, there are as many more prospects that will be breaking the door down in the next couple of years as we currently have with the big club.
Not saying there isn't still work to be done, or that we can't still improve. Just that the best is yet to come!

...and, I agree that they most likely should trade Georgie soon. I'd love to hang on to him, but I don't see how they can.

- Tonybere


DeAngelo seems pretty great so far. What happened to Buchnevich though? I thought he was gonna be great? Seems like he fell off a cliff.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:43 PM ET
Yes, he had 30 goals and 50 points last year. This year he has 5 goals and 10 assists and the 2 previous years before last he was around 30 points 16,18 goals. He's a good player but he is exactly what we already have IMO. Eberle, Beau, Brock, Brassard, etc. If the Islander's make a move it has to be for a top line wing. If the traded for him what line would he be on? you put him on Barzal's line?
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:47 PM ET
If Isles make a move it's for a top line player not another bottom 6 forward.

Fake news.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
Yes, he had 30 goals and 50 points last year. This year he has 5 goals and 10 assists and the 2 previous years before last he was around 30 points 16,18 goals. He's a good player but he is exactly what we already have IMO. Eberle, Beau, Brock, Brassard, etc. If the Islander's make a move it has to be for a top line wing. If the traded for him what line would he be on? you put him on Barzal's line?
- niteislander

Let’s face it. They aren’t getting a top line winger at the deadline. Outside of Hall who else is on the block? Devils aren’t trading Hall to the Isles unless they overpay and the isles shouldn’t overpay for Hall.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
Let’s face it. They aren’t getting a top line winger at the deadline. Outside of Hall who else is on the block? Devils aren’t trading Hall to the Isles unless they overpay and the isles shouldn’t overpay for Hall.
- Vukota


Kovalchuck? He’s cheap
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:53 PM ET
Kovalchuck? He’s cheap
- nyisles7


Galchenyuk
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
Yes, he had 30 goals and 50 points last year. This year he has 5 goals and 10 assists and the 2 previous years before last he was around 30 points 16,18 goals. He's a good player but he is exactly what we already have IMO. Eberle, Beau, Brock, Brassard, etc. If the Islander's make a move it has to be for a top line wing. If the traded for him what line would he be on? you put him on Barzal's line?
- niteislander

If you ignore basic context like playing time sure.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 3:55 PM ET
DeAngelo seems pretty great so far. What happened to Buchnevich though? I thought he was gonna be great? Seems like he fell off a cliff.
- mgriffen


I think Buch is nearing his peak. He can be a good 2nd line player, but his inconsistencies are really starting to cost him playing time. Every time he seems to figure stuff out, he takes his foot of the pedal.

Tony D has been astounding! His skills were never in doubt, but he seems to have grown up and learned how to be a pro. Here's hoping it continues.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:56 PM ET
Let’s face it. They aren’t getting a top line winger at the deadline. Outside of Hall who else is on the block? Devils aren’t trading Hall to the Isles unless they overpay and the isles shouldn’t overpay for Hall.
- Vukota


I disagree
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
If you ignore basic context like playing time sure.
- Feds91Stammer

I personally think he would be a nice fit with the isles. Still pretty young at 25 and can skate like the wind. I would love to add him to the top 6 if the price was right
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:58 PM ET
If Isles make a move it's for a top line player not another bottom 6 forward.

Fake news.

- Mr.Black

16-17 to 18-19

Tied for 17th in 5v5 goals per 60 with McDavid and Atkinson. That’s one elite bottom 6 forward.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
I personally think he would be a nice fit with the isles. Still pretty young at 25 and can skate like the wind. I would love to add him to the top 6 if the price was right
- Vukota

I’m very critical of him but a lot of that comes from Detroit putting him into a position where his flaws are exposed.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
I disagree
- niteislander

That’s fine you can. So you would be fine with trading a 1st, Dobson probably something else for him? Especially with no guarantee he’ll sign an extension and even if he did sign they can’t afford him with their RFA’s and bad contracts already on the books. Sure you could get somebody to take a bad contract off your hands but you don’t have that 1st rd pick to dangle in an off-season trade to do it. So the most likely scenario would be to go after him in the summer keep your best prospects and still have a 1st to use in trades
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
I’m very critical of him but a lot of that comes from Detroit putting him into a position where his flaws are exposed.
- Feds91Stammer

Give me a brief scouting report if you don’t mind. I’ve seen a little of him and know he can fly
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
Give me a brief scouting report if you don’t mind. I’ve seen a little of him and know he can fly
- Vukota

My analysis is:

1. Not a center at all (keeps getting forced into the role though)
2. Low hockey IQ (poor defensively and poor in terms of creating chances for teammates)
3. Speed for days (creates high danger chances for himself and creates space for others)
4. Good finisher (see goal production)

In reality he is a one dimensional player but that one dimension he is good at is a pretty damn important one.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
What makes him a bottom 6 guy?
- Feds91Stammer

He meant that he's a power-bottom
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
My analysis is:

1. Not a center at all (keeps getting forced into the role though)
2. Low hockey IQ (poor defensively and poor in terms of creating chances for teammates)
3. Speed for days (creates high danger chances for himself and creates space for others)
4. Good finisher (see goal production)

In reality he is a one dimensional player but that one dimension he is good at is a pretty damn important one.

- Feds91Stammer

I like him as a player but I don't think he's a Barry Trotz kinda guy
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
I like him as a player but I don't think he's a Barry Trotz kinda guy
- eichiefs9

You may be right but I also wonder if the structure of a Trotz team helps mask his deficiencies without killing his scoring numbers.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
He meant that he's a power-bottom
- eichiefs9


Now is that being able to take an immense amount of power from the bottom?
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