Wait till Middlestat cracks their lineup...
- Gr8daygo

Hopefully it's soon, cause being in the press box isn't helping him.

Apparently VGK have been scouting Sabres for some time, with the rumor being Scandella ($4.0m) as the guy they are looking at, with a return of a mid-level pick...to which they have 2 2020 3rds, one being NJD'S.
Problem is they are cap-strapped with only $170k available, so they need to find $4m or get creative.

Toronto Bay Leafs are reportedly in need of a RhD and rumors suggest one of RW Kapanen ($3.2m) or LW Johnsson ($3.4) likely trade bait. Sabres have RhD Collin Miller ($3.9m)

Seems like there could be a creative 3-way deal to be made here somehow
- Sabres trade RhD-Miller ($3.9m) to Bay Leafs for RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) and Cap dump C-Spezza ($700k)
- Sabres trade LhD-Scandella ($4.0m) + RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) to VGK for RW-Alex Tuch ($4.75m) and Cap dump LW-V Zykov ($675k); Sabres holding $2.0m on Scandella

Team. Money In. Money Out.
Sabres. $6.1m. $5.9m
TML. $3.9m. $3.9m
VKG. $5.2m. $5.4m
Total. $15.2m. $15.2m

Sabres get a serviceable 2C and a terrific, young RW.
Bay Leafs get their RhD
VKG gets their LhD and a solid backfill for RW Tuch

Win-Win-Win

WTF Jason, do this!

Hopefully it's soon, cause being in the press box isn't helping him.
- Buff36

Exactly.
As soon as Jason gets off his ass and executes my trade above.

Apparently VGK have been scouting Sabres for some time, with the rumor being Scandella ($4.0m) as the guy they are looking at, with a return of a mid-level pick...to which they have 2 2020 3rds, one being NJD'S.
Problem is they are cap-strapped with only $170k available, so they need to find $4m or get creative.

Toronto Bay Leafs are reportedly in need of a RhD and rumors suggest one of RW Kapanen ($3.2m) or LW Johnsson ($3.4) likely trade bait. Sabres have RhD Collin Miller ($3.9m)

Seems like there could be a creative 3-way deal to be made here somehow
- Sabres trade RhD-Miller ($3.9m) to Bay Leafs for RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) and Cap dump C-Spezza ($700k)
- Sabres trade LhD-Scandella ($4.0m) + RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) to VGK for RW-Alex Tuch ($4.75m) and Cap dump LW-V Zykov ($675k); Sabres holding $2.0m on Scandella

Team. Money In. Money Out.
Sabres. $6.1m. $5.9m
TML. $3.9m. $3.9m
VKG. $5.2m. $5.4m
Total. $15.2m. $15.2m

Sabres get a serviceable 2C and a terrific, young RW.
Bay Leafs get their RhD
VKG gets their LhD and a solid backfill for RW Tuch

Win-Win-Win

WTF Jason, do this!
- IonSabres

Spezza is getting 10 minutes TOI on the Leafs third or 4th line. He hasn’t played in 17 of the Leafs 40 games.

Lot of work for very little payoff.

El Paso.

Amerks beat Laval yesterday 5-0

Hammond with his 4th shutout of the year

CJ 1g 2a
Gilmour 1g 1a

They just keep on winning.
- mhp

Good to see CJ is back. He was out for a while.

Apparently VGK have been scouting Sabres for some time, with the rumor being Scandella ($4.0m) as the guy they are looking at, with a return of a mid-level pick...to which they have 2 2020 3rds, one being NJD'S.
Problem is they are cap-strapped with only $170k available, so they need to find $4m or get creative.

Toronto Bay Leafs are reportedly in need of a RhD and rumors suggest one of RW Kapanen ($3.2m) or LW Johnsson ($3.4) likely trade bait. Sabres have RhD Collin Miller ($3.9m)

Seems like there could be a creative 3-way deal to be made here somehow
- Sabres trade RhD-Miller ($3.9m) to Bay Leafs for RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) and Cap dump C-Spezza ($700k)
- Sabres trade LhD-Scandella ($4.0m) + RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) to VGK for RW-Alex Tuch ($4.75m) and Cap dump LW-V Zykov ($675k); Sabres holding $2.0m on Scandella

Team. Money In. Money Out.
Sabres. $6.1m. $5.9m
TML. $3.9m. $3.9m
VKG. $5.2m. $5.4m
Total. $15.2m. $15.2m

Sabres get a serviceable 2C and a terrific, young RW.
Bay Leafs get their RhD
VKG gets their LhD and a solid backfill for RW Tuch

Win-Win-Win

WTF Jason, do this!
- IonSabres

Who is the serviceable 2C? Certainly not Spezza, as Kaiser said.

Tuch would be a strong addition.

Wait till Middlestat cracks their lineup...
- Gr8daygo

He'll be the perfect 3C there...

Skinner has 16 goals in his last 60 games so he’s come back to Earth since shooting at his career high shooting percentage with Jack the first 30 games of last year too don’t you think ?
- Pegullaville

In the last 60, including his 1 in his last 21 or whatever he had he’s shooting like 5%.

So it’s inevitable he goes on another run at some point where they start going in.

I just don’t understand what’s to debate anymore

He’s not Olofsson where we have no idea what/who/how good he is yet.

We know, because of hundreds of games, that Skinner is gonna average 30-ish goals, most of them at EV strength. It is who he is.

Good to see CJ is back. He was out for a while.
- kingcong39

Apparently VGK have been scouting Sabres for some time, with the rumor being Scandella ($4.0m) as the guy they are looking at, with a return of a mid-level pick...to which they have 2 2020 3rds, one being NJD'S.
Problem is they are cap-strapped with only $170k available, so they need to find $4m or get creative.

Toronto Bay Leafs are reportedly in need of a RhD and rumors suggest one of RW Kapanen ($3.2m) or LW Johnsson ($3.4) likely trade bait. Sabres have RhD Collin Miller ($3.9m)

Seems like there could be a creative 3-way deal to be made here somehow
- Sabres trade RhD-Miller ($3.9m) to Bay Leafs for RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) and Cap dump C-Spezza ($700k)
- Sabres trade LhD-Scandella ($4.0m) + RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) to VGK for RW-Alex Tuch ($4.75m) and Cap dump LW-V Zykov ($675k); Sabres holding $2.0m on Scandella

Team. Money In. Money Out.
Sabres. $6.1m. $5.9m
TML. $3.9m. $3.9m
VKG. $5.2m. $5.4m
Total. $15.2m. $15.2m

Sabres get a serviceable 2C and a terrific, young RW.
Bay Leafs get their RhD
VKG gets their LhD and a solid backfill for RW Tuch

Win-Win-Win

WTF Jason, do this!
- IonSabres

F the leafs!

In the last 60, including his 1 in his last 21 or whatever he had he’s shooting like 5%.

So it’s inevitable he goes on another run at some point where they start going in.

I just don’t understand what’s to debate anymore

He’s not Olofsson where we have no idea what/who/how good he is yet.

We know, because of hundreds of games, that Skinner is gonna average 30-ish goals, most of them at EV strength. It is who he is.
- sbroads24

Don't waste your breath.

He's spent his whole life proving people wrong. You'll lose, apparently.

F the leafs!
- Gr8daygo

Matthews and McDavid were both non-existent last night.

Oilers are brutal defensively, it’s going to sink them quick.

Spezza is getting 10 minutes TOI on the Leafs third or 4th line. He hasn’t played in 17 of the Leafs 40 games.

Lot of work for very little payoff.

El Paso.
- Der Kaiser

Sure, thinking on the surface I see your point.

Yet, in 23 games of 33 played, not 40; he has 12 pts for roughly 0.50ppg rate.
He is 12th in scoring on Leafs playing 4th line minutes ever 2 of 3 games...not F'g bad.
On Sabres, he would be tied for 8th, and cost 700k, a 13F cost.
It would be for 60% of a season, a very low cost, low risk scenario.

The big picture is the Sabres get a very good RW at a great contract value while he is barely entering the prime of his career.
The cost to do so is
-1 pending UFA D man, which may get you a 3, 4, of 5 rd pick
-1 Dman who is a healthy scratch on this team because they have literally 6 RhD's.

It is piss poor asset mgmt NOT to do this type of deal.

Sure, thinking on the surface I see your point.

Yet, in 23 games of 33 played, not 40; he has 12 pts for roughly 0.50ppg rate.
He is 12th in scoring on Leafs playing 4th line minutes ever 2 of 3 games...not F'g bad.
On Sabres, he would be tied for 8th, and cost 700k, a 13F cost.
It would be for 60% of a season, a very low cost, low risk scenario.

The big picture is the Sabres get a very good RW at a great contract value while he is barely entering the prime of his career.
The cost to do so is
-1 pending UFA D man, which may get you a 3, 4, of 5 rd pick
-1 Dman who is a healthy scratch on this team because they have literally 6 RhD's.

It is piss poor asset mgmt NOT to do this type of deal.
- IonSabres

You're right that the cost would be low, but expecting Spezza to log 2nd line 2C minutes at this stage of his career would be like expecting Pominville to be able to handle first line minutes for 45 games.

Apparently VGK have been scouting Sabres for some time, with the rumor being Scandella ($4.0m) as the guy they are looking at, with a return of a mid-level pick...to which they have 2 2020 3rds, one being NJD'S.
Problem is they are cap-strapped with only $170k available, so they need to find $4m or get creative.

Toronto Bay Leafs are reportedly in need of a RhD and rumors suggest one of RW Kapanen ($3.2m) or LW Johnsson ($3.4) likely trade bait. Sabres have RhD Collin Miller ($3.9m)

Seems like there could be a creative 3-way deal to be made here somehow
- Sabres trade RhD-Miller ($3.9m) to Bay Leafs for RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) and Cap dump C-Spezza ($700k)
- Sabres trade LhD-Scandella ($4.0m) + RW-Kapanen ($3.2m) to VGK for RW-Alex Tuch ($4.75m) and Cap dump LW-V Zykov ($675k); Sabres holding $2.0m on Scandella

Team. Money In. Money Out.
Sabres. $6.1m. $5.9m
TML. $3.9m. $3.9m
VKG. $5.2m. $5.4m
Total. $15.2m. $15.2m

Sabres get a serviceable 2C and a terrific, young RW.
Bay Leafs get their RhD
VKG gets their LhD and a solid backfill for RW Tuch

Win-Win-Win

WTF Jason, do this!
- IonSabres

Very creative and well done but this still keeps bogo on the team and 3 way trades don’t often happen in the nhl, if at all

Who is the serviceable 2C? Certainly not Spezza, as Kaiser said.

Tuch would be a strong addition.
- kingcong39

VO-Eichel-Sam/Tuch
Skinner-Spezza-Sam/Tuch
Mojo-Asplund-Sheary/Vesey
3 Larry's

That gets you to PO's and partially solves the log jam at D.

Spezza, former Captain, tons of PO experience, producing at 0.50 rate (41 per 82), set-up man for Skinner and Tuch...at $700k cost this season, then..bye-bye..or re-up if he provides value.
Low cost, low risk.

But, let's wait to get that 4th/5th rounder at the TDL for Scandella!

In the last 60, including his 1 in his last 21 or whatever he had he’s shooting like 5%.

So it’s inevitable he goes on another run at some point where they start going in.

I just don’t understand what’s to debate anymore

He’s not Olofsson where we have no idea what/who/how good he is yet.

We know, because of hundreds of games, that Skinner is gonna average 30-ish goals, most of them at EV strength. It is who he is.
- sbroads24

Your right boards, he will score his 30 or more goals this year, but damn we really could use some of that now, and not month or 2 down the line.

With the Coyotes loaning Hayton, Cozens has moved to RW on a line with Byfield and benoit olivier groulx playing Center (2nd rounder by the Ducks in 2018)

X * Y = Z; where Y is constant and X is a variable, Z is Result.
To increase Z, X must be increased.

X = High Danger Opportunities
Y = Shot Rate (10.7%)
Z = Goals

He needs more high danger opportunities.

X * Y = Z; where Y is constant and X is a variable, Z is Result.
To increase Z, X must be increased.

X = High Danger Opportunities
Y = Shot Rate (10.7%)
Z = Goals

He needs more high danger opportunities.
- IonSabres

Nice, your right he needs to start burying his chances when he gets them.

Nice, your right he needs to start burying his chances when he gets them.
- Buff36

Lol.

F the leafs!
- Gr8daygo

Miller has been brutal at breakout passes this year and in his own end. Not good

If anything. That move would F the leafs

Only 7.5 more years of it
- sbroads24

Mathews(22yr 246gp 130g 109a 239pts) & Nylander(23yr 273gp 66g 119pts) 18.6 M

Eichel >>> Mathews & Skinner >>> Nylander

Eichel(23yr 320gp 124g 183a 307pts) & Skinner(27yr 695gm 255g 205a 460pts) 19M