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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
As Teddy Nolan said, "prospects become suspects."
- jcragcrumple

Amen, and draft picks are great till youre on the clock
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
disagree


the goal SHOULD BE make the playoffs this season and be able to go deep in the playoffs next season

- homiedclown


The goal IS to build a team that can legitimately compete for the Cup year in, year out

Who’s our goalie next year that gets us “deep” in the playoffs next year?

As good to great as Cozens & UPL could become,
it’s highly unlikely they’re the type of difference makers in year 1 with us (if they’re even on the team) that get us past Boston & Tampa


Sure, we could extend Palmeri to a 3 year deal,
IF he’d sign here... IF
We don’t know. It’s a gamble

Or we could use that $$$ on someone younger who will be here longer for sure

I’m not saying i hate the idea of Palmeri
He’s a good player
But his age/contract makes it a less than ideal situation
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:17 PM ET
At some point the team needs to commit to winning instead of having one foot in and one foot out.

Do I think we should trade 2 1sts for Hall? No. But the goal this year should be to find the guy offensively for this year and next year so you can add him to the mix of Cozens, Thompson, Mittelstadt, Borgen and Pilut and hopefully really go for something next year.

Acquire that impact forward now and the benefits are enormous

- jcragcrumple


Or get a younger guy that can be here for 5+ years that can help NOW, and moving forward

Yeah, i know it’s tougher to get a guy like that than a guy like Palmeri

All I’m saying is that it’s a better option
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 17 @ 4:17 PM ET
Can't go to the minors until he's 21 I think. It's either here or WHL for 2 more years. Which is insanely dumb.
- SDSabre



2 years from being drafted or if the player has 4 yrs of Juniors experience.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
The goal IS to build a team that can legitimately compete for the Cup year in, year out

Who’s our goalie next year that gets us “deep” in the playoffs next year?

As good to great as Cozens & UPL could become,
it’s highly unlikely they’re the type of difference makers in year 1 with us (if they’re even on the team) that get us past Boston & Tampa


Sure, we could extend Palmeri to a 3 year deal,
IF he’d sign here... IF
We don’t know. It’s a gamble

Or we could use that $$$ on someone younger who will be here longer for sure

I’m not saying i hate the idea of Palmeri
He’s a good player
But his age/contract makes it a less than ideal situation

- jdfitz77


Just gotta get yourself to the dance to have a shot otherwise youre sitting outside with your crank in your hands
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
Solid post Homie
Same trajectory as the Bill's

- Boss34

we get along fine when there is no skunks in the conversation
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
The goal IS to build a team that can legitimately compete for the Cup year in, year out


- jdfitz77

eichel
skinner
dahlin
olofsson
joker
risto
reinhart
cozens
casey
asplund
miller

all those d men prospects




having eichel alone in his prime is enough to make a move in year 5 for him to gain playoff experience


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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
eichel
skinner
dahlin
olofsson
joker
risto
reinhart
cozens
casey
asplund
miller

all those d men prospects




having eichel alone in his prime is enough to make a move in year 5 for him to gain playoff experience


tick
tock
tick
tock

- homiedclown


Not just Jack, the plan cant be pay Skinner all that money then wait 2/3 years so maybe a prospect can be good enough to play on a line with him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Not just Jack, the plan cant be pay Skinner all that money then wait 2/3 years so maybe a prospect can be good enough to play on a line with him.
- hubie

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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Just gotta get yourself to the dance to have a shot otherwise youre sitting outside with your crank in your hands
- hubie


Totally agree
And that’s why i said it depends what Palmeri costs

I wouldn’t wanna give up a 1st for a guy that’s probably just here for a year & a half
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
Or get a younger guy that can be here for 5+ years that can help NOW, and moving forward

Yeah, i know it’s tougher to get a guy like that than a guy like Palmeri

All I’m saying is that it’s a better option

- jdfitz77


Maybe, but you cant let perfect be the enemy of good. We need a good move, not a perfect one.

Can I get a good player for Miller, a 2nd and Samuelson or Johnson?

Should be able to, whatever the name is
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:28 PM ET
eichel
skinner
dahlin
olofsson
joker
risto
reinhart
cozens
casey
asplund
miller

all those d men prospects




having eichel alone in his prime is enough to make a move in year 5 for him to gain playoff experience


tick
tock
tick
tock

- homiedclown


I don’t disagree
But a guy like Ehlers is preferable to a guy like Palmeri

That’s ALL I’m saying
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
I don’t disagree
But a guy like Ehlers is preferable to a guy like Palmeri

That’s ALL I’m saying

- jdfitz77


No poop

this just in water is wet
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:30 PM ET
Maybe, but you cant let perfect be the enemy of good. We need a good move, not a perfect one.

Can I get a good player for Miller, a 2nd and Samuelson or Johnson?

Should be able to, whatever the name is

- jcragcrumple


That’s kind of a lot to pay to get beat in the st round by Tampa or Boston

Why not just turn that 2nd into a first & get an Ehlers type player?

Don’t u think that’s a better idea?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
No poop

this just in water is wet

- hubie


Brilliant. Thanks hubie
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
Totally agree
And that’s why i said it depends what Palmeri costs

I wouldn’t wanna give up a 1st for a guy that’s probably just here for a year & a half

- jdfitz77


Figure couple young pieces
Dea and a D man or something along those lines
Could a Erod be of interest.
Could an extra piece send along Okposo or another vet they could flip?

imo you would get 2x more in return then waiting next year as a rental
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
That’s kind of a lot to pay to get beat in the st round by Tampa or Boston

Why not just turn that 2nd into a first & get an Ehlers type player?

Don’t u think that’s a better idea?

- jdfitz77


I think you want Ehlers

Which is fine. Do we get him for Bogo and a top-10 protected first? I wish he played RW or C but I dont hate the idea
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
we get along fine when there is no skunks in the conversation
- homiedclown


I'm really excited about both teams and we have that in common.

Neither of us are going to sway our opinions on sam.

Regardless, no one wants to come on here and read others bagging on their players. I'll try to refrain.
Although, sometimes you reverse troll.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
I think you want Ehlers

Which is fine. Do we get him for Bogo and a top-10 protected first? I wish he played RW or C but I dont hate the idea

- jcragcrumple


So Winnipeg a playoff team is going to just give him away?

Are you ready to give over 2 high end prospects and a 1st?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
So Winnipeg a playoff team is going to just give him away?

Are you ready to give over 2 high end prospects and a 1st?

- hubie


I dont think Winnipeg has any interest in trading him, tbh. I'm just curious what Fitz thinks is a reasonable PRICE
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
I dont think Winnipeg has any interest in trading him, tbh. I'm just curious what Fitz thinks is a reasonable PRICE
- jcragcrumple

im curious too lol
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
I said hi to my CEO once, he said hi back. I guess you can say I’m kind of a big deal now.
- ImThatGuy

Whoa, can I hang out with you?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
I think you want Ehlers

Which is fine. Do we get him for Bogo and a top-10 protected first? I wish he played RW or C but I dont hate the idea

- jcragcrumple


Of course i would!
But i said “Ehlers TYPE”

So yeah...
I’d prefer we give up more to get a guy in his early/mid20s instead of his late20s

Palmeri is basically a long rental for us
So if we are talking E Rod & a 2nd, cool
If we are talking a 1st or one of our top prospects,
then I’d pass

And that goes for Toffoli, etc as well

We aren’t building to get to 8th here
There’s bigger goals in mind
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 17 @ 4:41 PM ET
How about Strome from Chicago, he's a RFA next year, pretty good set up man, could be good with Skinner.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
How about Strome from Chicago, he's a RFA next year, pretty good set up man, could be good with Skinner.
- Buff36

I don't know the answer to this question.
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