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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
Tampa and Florida come back and say they need a quality prospect center for Cirelli or Trochek. Do you say yes to Cozens going the other way? How about Mittelstadt?

I highly, highly doubt either gets moved for a 1st round pick.

- kingcong39


Trochek for Mitts and a 1st. Done

Fla can throw in a 4th and the ghost of cliff pu
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
If you're trading Cozens, it's in a deal for a 27 year old or less (preferably) talented center.

Cirelli is just one name, as I also mentioned others.

Point being, if you aren't going to give up someone like him, the chances you're getting a quality young center in a trade are very slim, in which case you're hoping to get a good enough center on a depressed value type of trade.

None of the above is remotely easy to accomplish, which is why I've turned on the idea of getting Coyle when he was available being a good idea. Why? The pickin's, they be slim.

- kingcong39


Well, it was made clear that a winger of Hall's caliber can be had with a handful of maybes and a 1st. On an expiring deal. So a cost controlled young, solid center, probably double the price.

I'm using Cozens or CM to acquire a guy like Couturier or Monahan. But who's willing to make that trade besides no one? If Florida sinks, try to get Trochek. But don't use Cozens for him.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
I would be ok with Casey going , in the grand scheme id go with Trochek here as the faceoff numbers are there that I think we desperately need and hes more established
- hubie


Florida says yes to Mittelstadt and the 2020 1st round pick: do you do it?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
Trochek for Mitts and a 1st. Done
- jcragcrumple


Might even be overpayment. In my opinion, I guess.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
Might even be overpayment. In my opinion, I guess.
- TheSabresTaco


Might be, but that is what it would take.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Getting pumped for Alex Galchenyuk for 3 months of bad play
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Might even be overpayment. In my opinion, I guess.
- TheSabresTaco


Whatever. It would indisputably solve our 2C problem
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Well, it was made clear that a winger of Hall's caliber can be had with a handful of maybes and a 1st. On an expiring deal. So a cost controlled young, solid center, probably double the price.

I'm using Cozens or CM to acquire a guy like Couturier or Monahan. But who's willing to make that trade besides no one? If Florida sinks, try to get Trochek. But don't use Cozens for him.

- TheSabresTaco


That's why the solution is so hard.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Trochek for Mitts and a 1st. Done

Fla can throw in a 4th and the ghost of cliff pu

- jcragcrumple


What if it's the 2020 1st round pick, unprotected?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
Getting pumped for Alex Galchenyuk for 3 months of bad play
- sbroads24


We don't need any of that.

Imagine being the team on the receiving end of 'hey, a change of pace really worked out for him on the Sabres'

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
That's why the solution is so hard.
- kingcong39


With Trochek, this is a playoff team. They can have the 18th overall pick and draft Yo-el ArmEEa or whoever the hell they want
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:36 AM ET
Whatever. It would indisputably solve our 2C problem
- jcragcrumple


When you're right, you're right.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:36 AM ET
Florida says yes to Mittelstadt and the 2020 1st round pick: do you do it?
- kingcong39

Yes, the team becomes a lot better with him and helps solidify a playoff shot. He would become our best faceoff guy (Hense why i honestly would really love Couturier)


Maybe im crazy or off my rocker but if we dont make the playoffs does Botts get to see if Cozens can play?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:37 AM ET
With Trochek, this is a playoff team. They can have the 18th overall pick and draft Yo-el ArmEEa or whoever the hell they want
- jcragcrumple


he's gone get over it
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:39 AM ET
What if it's the 2020 1st round pick, unprotected?
- kingcong39

Why would we need to protect it?
There would be a better shot of Alexandra Daddario coming into my office to bone me than be a top 3 pick.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:40 AM ET
Jeff Skinner is on pace for 40 points, for $9mm a year.

That’s not great.

I don’t give a damn about advanced stats and his xGF anymore. He is on pace for 25 goals. I said it in the off-season. Anything less than 35G and 60 points would be a disaster.

Either get him a damn center to play with or put him with Eichel.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:43 AM ET
What if it's the 2020 1st round pick, unprotected?
- kingcong39




I like to live dangerously


I dont give a flying fart about 1st round picks anymore. Make the playoffs
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:48 AM ET


I like to live dangerously


I dont give a flying fart about 1st round picks anymore. Make the playoffs

- jcragcrumple

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:50 AM ET

- hubie





Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yup, hey let's try this on Olofsson, see what happens to the golden boy...
- cut his TOI by 25%
- take him of line 1, put him with Vesey as his center, Girgenson as his RW
See if his shots and high danger opportunities de rease by say 20-30% and therefore his scoring dries-up.

- IonSabres



Let's try this with the other "golden boy". Move him to the 2nd line.

-take him off line 1, put him with vesey as his center and girgensons as his rw.

With out jack, everyone's stats drop right?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
Why would we need to protect it?
There would be a better shot of Alexandra Daddario coming into my office to bone me than be a top 3 pick.

- hubie


Since they changed the draft lottery odds three years ago, a team outside the bottom 10 has won a top 3 pick.

The Flyers, Carolina, and Chicago.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 18 @ 9:55 AM ET
Since they changed the draft lottery odds three years ago, a team outside the bottom 10 has won a top 3 pick.

The Flyers, Carolina, and Chicago.

- kingcong39


Why tank when we can finish 10th from the bottom and win Lafreniere
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
Hell, no. Cirelli is a fine player, but he's still all promise at this point, too.
- Powerslave

Cirelli is really really good

one of the few people I would overpay for
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
Why tank when we can finish 10th from the bottom and win Lafreniere
- TheSabresTaco


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 18 @ 9:58 AM ET
So you're angry because you don't understand what I'm saying to you. Gotcha.

Stop being grossly fat

- TheSabresTaco



Dude looks like he's on the verge of tears. He's not the problem.
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