Source?
- Powerslave

Just a posters opinion.

Cirelli is the truth
- gerbe75pts

Yeah, but how long before we're whining about him?

He's good, but he's no savior.

You overpay to get him and then what?

Very true 39, there were a few teams that were playing pretty poopty, Wild- Flames-Predators that might have been good trade partners, but they have all picked up there games. So I think Botts waited to long, but just my opinion.
- Buff36

Teams have much more patience than we give them credit for. They typically don't start selling off until the season is sunk or they're the bruins in last place for two months

They will dump Killorn and Palat for nothing if needed.
- kingcong39

Ill take Johnson off their hands lol

cirelli is the real deal for complete complementary player


they have bumped him up and rewarded him with more ice time, and a little more pp time

he does a lot of the little things right, under rated penalty killer

picture a young mike peca on the wing


I would move pretty much any prospects other then cozens or 6k for him
- homiedclown

Would you move Alex Mogilny for him?

Teams have much more patience than we give them credit for. They typically don't start selling off until the season is sunk or they're the bruins in last place for two months
- TheSabresTaco

I agree Taco, but I see on here people talking about overpayment's, at that time you might have gotten a bite, I doubt it, but you never now

"Here's a broken trash can and a rotting pumpkin. These are your linemates, go score, (frank) you."
- TheSabresTaco

Really, I like skinner too.

How can you defend his play recently? Falling down, diving, losing confidence of the coaches.


Taco- its everyone else's fault
JBOTTS NEEDS TO MAKE A TRADE -

How about the 9 million $ guy score an important goal?

Either Botts overplayed his hand during the summer, or people just didn't want are trash at the time.

Really, I like skinner too.

How can you defend his play recently? Falling down, diving, losing confidence of the coaches.


Taco- its everyone else's fault
JBOTTS NEEDS TO MAKE A TRADE -

How about the 9 million $ guy score an important goal?
- Boss34

His body language says it all. Which is probably why he's getting 13 minutes.

Teams have much more patience than we give them credit for. They typically don't start selling off until the season is sunk or they're the bruins in last place for two months
- TheSabresTaco

Then why the constant- Do something jbotts?

You actually understand hockey? Maybe jbotts wants to see where we are at the deadline?

Seems Botterill like?

Really, I like skinner too.

How can you defend his play recently? Falling down, diving, losing confidence of the coaches.


Taco- its everyone else's fault
JBOTTS NEEDS TO MAKE A TRADE -

How about the 9 million $ guy score an important goal?
- Boss34

Look, Skinner needs to score. I get it, you get it, we all get it. He also needs competent line mates to be fully effective. Botterill needs to do his (frank)ing job too.

Would you move Alex Mogilny for him?
- Powerslave

apples and oranges

we moved moglinly for a first round pick, peca and a player that was drafted in the first round 2 years before the trade


http://www.nhltradetracke..._by_team/Buffalo_Sabres/7


tampa is not in position to add salary, so they could not move cirelli and 2 first round picks for an ovi type player

His body language says it all. Which is probably why he's getting 13 minutes.
- Powerslave

Dude looks like he's on the verge of tears. He's not the problem.

Either Botts overplayed his hand during the summer, or people just didn't want are trash at the time.
- Buff36

You're another gm.

Would you want our trash?

He's going to have to trade someone he may not want to, if he seriously wants to add young, NHL-ready talent to this team.

I agree Taco, but I see on here people talking about overpayment's, at that time you might have gotten a bite, I doubt it, but you never now
- Buff36

Would be very interesting to be able to see what your GM turns down.

Really, I like skinner too.

How can you defend his play recently? Falling down, diving, losing confidence of the coaches.


Taco- its everyone else's fault
JBOTTS NEEDS TO MAKE A TRADE -

How about the 9 million $ guy score an important goal?
- Boss34

That's what I don't get, everybody keeps making excuses, I like him to, but damn it's not like he isn't getting any chances.

apples and oranges

we moved moglinly for a first round pick, peca and a player that was drafted in the first round 2 years before the trade


http://www.nhltradetracke..._by_team/Buffalo_Sabres/7


tampa is not in position to add salary, so they could not move cirelli and 2 first round picks for an ovi type player
- homiedclown

If I'm Tampa, and if he's really "the truth", then I'm not moving him.

There are other pieces that other teams might want. Even if you're selling low.

You're another gm.

Would you want our trash?

He's going to have to trade someone he may not want to, if he seriously wants to add young, NHL-ready talent to this team.
- Powerslave

Agree

Would be very interesting to be able to see what your GM turns down.
- TheSabresTaco

That's why I write on a message board, cause I can put together any trade I want

Either Botts overplayed his hand during the summer, or people just didn't want are trash at the time.
- Buff36

It's not hard to believe that obsolete five million dollar players are unable to be moved. But I also think, for the second year in a row either botterill thought CM would be ready, or he didn't give a poop that he'd be ready and expected is to be competitive but just average. He knew what the team was last year yet didn't give a poop about improving it in season. Now he rolls in with incredibly modest forward changes and expects different? I don't know if he's that dumb or simply that patient.

Look, Skinner needs to score. I get it, you get it, we all get it. He also needs competent line mates to be fully effective. Botterill needs to do his (frank)ing job too.
- TheSabresTaco

Botts is doing his job.
He's boosting rochester
Hes acquired some top talent and resigned (skinner)
He hired a great out of the box coach


Maybe we are waiting until our generational defenseman is more primed to succeed. Dahlin is a mess on defense.


Botts draft picks haven't had a chance to develop. I imagine he foresees some of these guys as future Sabres?

I'm waiting until the deadline. Were 30+ games into a new system- again

If I'm Tampa, and if he's really "the truth", then I'm not moving him.

There are other pieces that other teams might want. Even if you're selling low.
- Powerslave

IMO they could get a lot higher end D Depth than what we can provide.

Then why the constant- Do something jbotts?

You actually understand hockey? Maybe jbotts wants to see where we are at the deadline?

Seems Botterill like?
- Boss34

He did this last year with a worse team. This team is better, but still has incredibly obvious holes. That he either refused or is unable to fill.

You're another gm.

Would you want our trash?

He's going to have to trade someone he may not want to, if he seriously wants to add young, NHL-ready talent to this team.
- Powerslave

Good post

Other teams do not want the same players that we don't want.

We have picks to trade, why not wait until were closer to making a true run? Then you mortgage the future.

That's what I don't get, everybody keeps making excuses, I like him to, but damn it's not like he isn't getting any chances.
- Buff36

Exactly, to continue to argue about his bad play and make up really bizarre excuses?

Dude looks like he's on the verge of tears. He's not the problem.