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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Dec 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
This is your best post ever, and it’s not even close.

*slow claps*

- Arctic_AARDVARK



I knew you’d like it.
Bob_Zuruncle
Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ
Joined: 04.21.2006

Dec 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
are you guys really arguing about trading matthews?

there is no way matthews should be even considered tradeable until at least the last year and a half of his contract because he probably won't sign a new deal here (could be a different story if the leafs win a cup).

kyle dubas already screwed up his 5 year chicago style cup window by paying matthews, marner and tavares the absolute most top dollar and getting rid of guys like kadri and brown and letting someone like gardiner walk for nothing. now that he has done the damage the first guy outside of ceci to go to free up cap space and shore up his defense has to be nylander or it has to be tavares.

nylander because he held out half a season in favour of getting his top dollar contract, if not nylander then tavares being 30 already is the next logical choice especially since he's 11 million on the cap.

it seems like dubas plan now includes trying to sign pietrangelo in free agency, sure to be another 11+ million dollar contract, how can he possibly even sign him?

if the leafs stay with this roster for the rest of the season, don't expect much. the team has holes that need to be filled and you can't fill them without cap space.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Dec 16 @ 10:11 PM ET
are you guys really arguing about trading matthews?

there is no way matthews should be even considered tradeable until at least the last year and a half of his contract because he probably won't sign a new deal here (could be a different story if the leafs win a cup).

kyle dubas already screwed up his 5 year chicago style cup window by paying matthews, marner and tavares the absolute most top dollar and getting rid of guys like kadri and brown and letting someone like gardiner walk for nothing. now that he has done the damage the first guy outside of ceci to go to free up cap space and shore up his defense has to be nylander or it has to be tavares.

nylander because he held out half a season in favour of getting his top dollar contract, if not nylander then tavares being 30 already is the next logical choice especially since he's 11 million on the cap.

it seems like dubas plan now includes trying to sign pietrangelo in free agency, sure to be another 11+ million dollar contract, how can he possibly even sign him?

if the leafs stay with this roster for the rest of the season, don't expect much. the team has holes that need to be filled and you can't fill them without cap space.

- Bob_Zuruncle



Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
I knew you’d like it.
- Steven_Seagull

Eventually you all come around to what I’m saying. Sometimes it takes years, but eventually it happens
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Plays on the same team as Leafs prospect Kara.


Suck it, Peter. We no longer need your trash.

- Steven_Seagull

Yeah! Suck it, Peter 21mm.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
Matthews is 8th in the league in goals. Leads the team in points and has a better +- than marner Tavares and rielly. Some of you guys have pretty ridiculous expectations
- Ravenz93


Yeah, this Eichel vs. Matthews thing is such a non-starter Buffalo fan fixation thing that we really shouldn't be wasting energy discussing.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 16 @ 10:26 PM ET
Yeah, this Eichel vs. Matthews thing is such a non-starter Buffalo fan fixation thing that we really shouldn't be wasting energy discussing.
- gravyface

I don't like Eichels stoopid face and Brillo hair...but he can hockey.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 16 @ 10:48 PM ET
Eichel plays a more physical style. He made Muzzin look like a chump. He plays in all situations. He's not the goal scorer Matthews is, but his value to his team is certainly as much.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Dec 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
Eichel plays a more physical style. He made Muzzin look like a chump. He plays in all situations. He's not the goal scorer Matthews is, but his value to his team is certainly as much.
- aminnes

He’s got more goals than Matthews this year, we’ll see if he tails off.

We need something to motivate Matthews, maybe people saying “Jack is better,” is the kick in the butt he needs.
93Cup
Location: Wawiatin Falls, ON
Joined: 07.19.2019

Dec 16 @ 11:47 PM ET
Good news for the opposition...Marincin's back!
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 17 @ 7:30 AM ET
I'd put a Jiri Crha shooter-tutor in the backup role at this point.
- Aetherial





Nice one!
daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Dec 17 @ 7:49 AM ET
How about the coach's eye test? Or the media. As much as we laugh, there are people who have forgotten more about hockey and pro sports than you or I will ever know. Those people are asking questions also.

Hey, I still wouldn't trade the guy (well, I would for a great return) and I still hope he turns it around, grows up and plays up to his talent. I just think the free pass should be over. He should be playing better than a 74 pt. pace and even +/- in November December.

- Aetherial


Quality of competition.
Babcock fed him sheltered minutes.
Keefe is feeding him sheltered minutes.

I won’t be shocked if they get outplayed by vesey sheary johanson tonight.

Edit- they being the Matthews line.
Tavares will be dealing with jack.
Kerfoot will get skinner line.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 17 @ 8:24 AM ET
MacKinnion took off the moment Duchene was traded.



Bye Nylander.

- Steven_Seagull



Hello Ellis.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 17 @ 8:27 AM ET
Good news for the opposition...Marincin's back!
- 93Cup


(frank)ing Babcock, must still be mad at Dubas.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 17 @ 8:27 AM ET
Hello Ellis.
- zazzle

What are you adding?


*Waits for 3rd round pick and then proceeds to (frank) up zazzies' couch*

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 17 @ 8:28 AM ET
Good news for the opposition...Marincin's back!
- 93Cup



eating popcorn in the press box.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 17 @ 8:33 AM ET
What are you adding?


*Waits for 3rd round pick and then proceeds to (frank) up zazzies' couch*


- RickJames77


White leather on a couch

no 3rd. two of the following since the Leafs have those picks (two each round) in hand
4th or 6th or 7th

take 2 of them and be happy.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 17 @ 8:37 AM ET
eating popcorn in the press box.
- zazzle


He’s a Dubas player, everyone blamed Babs for playing him, but his analytics from 16-17 to 18-19 were better then Rielly and Gardiner ( obviously a lot less ice time )

Go Martin Marincin Go
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 17 @ 8:52 AM ET
He’s a Dubas player, everyone blamed Babs for playing him, but his analytics from 16-17 to 18-19 were better then Rielly and Gardiner ( obviously a lot less ice time )

Go Martin Marincin Go

- Garnie

I can get behind this


Among other things
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Dec 17 @ 8:59 AM ET
He’s a Dubas player, everyone blamed Babs for playing him, but his analytics from 16-17 to 18-19 were better then Rielly and Gardiner ( obviously a lot less ice time )

Go Martin Marincin Go

- Garnie


you forgot to include "away" in the at line
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Dec 17 @ 9:00 AM ET
He’s a Dubas player, everyone blamed Babs for playing him, but his analytics from 16-17 to 18-19 were better then Rielly and Gardiner ( obviously a lot less ice time )

Go Martin Marincin Go

- Garnie



if Marincin did indeed have better advanced stats ... what does that tell you about the advanced stats are interpreted?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 9:02 AM ET
Yeah, this Eichel vs. Matthews thing is such a non-starter Buffalo fan fixation thing that we really shouldn't be wasting energy discussing.
- gravyface


This will be the 9th straight year Sabres miss the playoffs..
daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Dec 17 @ 9:05 AM ET
This will be the 9th straight year Sabres miss the playoffs..
- RogerRoeper

Yep. It’s Jacks fault Jt Mitch and Freddie play for the leafs and not the sabres.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Dec 17 @ 9:06 AM ET
are you guys really arguing about trading matthews?

there is no way matthews should be even considered tradeable until at least the last year and a half of his contract because he probably won't sign a new deal here (could be a different story if the leafs win a cup).

kyle dubas already screwed up his 5 year chicago style cup window by paying matthews, marner and tavares the absolute most top dollar and getting rid of guys like kadri and brown and letting someone like gardiner walk for nothing. now that he has done the damage the first guy outside of ceci to go to free up cap space and shore up his defense has to be nylander or it has to be tavares.

nylander because he held out half a season in favour of getting his top dollar contract, if not nylander then tavares being 30 already is the next logical choice especially since he's 11 million on the cap.

it seems like dubas plan now includes trying to sign pietrangelo in free agency, sure to be another 11+ million dollar contract, how can he possibly even sign him?

if the leafs stay with this roster for the rest of the season, don't expect much. the team has holes that need to be filled and you can't fill them without cap space.

- Bob_Zuruncle


Getting rid of the guy who was suspended in the playoffs (and may have prevented the team from winning a round) 2 years in a row, a guy who was playing on the 4th line that has a whole 5 goals this year, and letting the biggest whipping boy defenceman since Larry Murphy walk for nothing is the downfall of this team currently?

Give your head a shake man.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 17 @ 9:13 AM ET
you forgot to include "away" in the at line
- BorjeFan4Ever


Poor Marty

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