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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
That's a poor choice of criteria.
- Scoob


Yeah but it’s the truth.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 2:55 PM ET


they got a nice return for Hall which to me was the smart thing to do altho I'm surprised they didn't wait a little longer.

- nastyflyergirl


I disagree. They were over a barrel, but I thought the return was light. None of those prospects may pan out and the picks are nothing but future potential right now.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
This league is headed down a slippery slope, we’re gonna start seeking some bad acting skills on display. That’s probably a 5 minute major if Buchnevich stays down for a few minutes
- Nucker101


He'd need to leave the game.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
He'd need to leave the game.
- Feanor


Buch?

They made him leave anyway, no?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
I disagree. They were over a barrel, but I thought the return was light. None of those prospects may pan out and the picks are nothing but future potential right now.
- Scoob


Hall is a rental. 45 games and playoffs. What if he has a handshake deal with Devils to sign back on July 1?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
Hall is a rental. 45 games and playoffs. What if he has a handshake deal with Devils to sign back on July 1?
- PLindbergh31


He hated being there, I doubt there is such a deal.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
No, Subban has the back injury.

5 points in 32 games.

- Feanor


OH! oops haha.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
He hated being there, I doubt there is such a deal.
- Scoob


They don't need him. They will get Lafreniere.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
They don't need him. They will get Lafreniere.
- PLindbergh31

This is depressing
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
They don't need him. They will get Lafreniere.
- PLindbergh31

They better hope he develops quicker than Hischier and Hughes.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Flying elbow to the head and left his skates.
- arichardson22



look down throught the suspensions so far this year. Yes spitting is ridiculous, but that got more games than boarding majors or elbowing to the head.

Said before the inconsistencies are impressive. Guessing in Marchands last year they will start penalizing him for all his slew foots
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Thats the problem. Skating and checking well isnt enough to be in the top 6. None of the players in my bottom 6 or minors can step into that role IMO. Frost would be the closest one but i dont feel he is ready yet. Laughton on 3rd line is his ceiling
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



i would rather see what Carsen can do instead of Andreoff. Never said they should play there all year...its what we have to work with right now. Also Frost wasn't great but also wasn't terrible when he was in the top 6......that was before all our starters went down though.

My post that i have had no problems with their games so far has been in the role they have been slotted in. Having 6 main starters out is tough for any team to overcome. Also with the lines NAK is in the top 6 while Voracek is not.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Thats the problem. Skating and checking well isnt enough to be in the top 6. None of the players in my bottom 6 or minors can step into that role IMO. Frost would be the closest one but i dont feel he is ready yet. Laughton on 3rd line is his ceiling
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



i would rather see what Carsen can do instead of Andreoff. Never said they should play there all year...its what we have to work with right now. Also Frost wasn't great but also wasn't terrible when he was in the top 6......that was before all our starters went down though.

My post that i have had no problems with their games so far has been in the role they have been slotted in. Having 6 main starters out is tough for any team to overcome. Also with the lines NAK is in the top 6 while Voracek is not.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 3:58 PM ET
article on CSN AV states difference between TK and Farabee hits were .3 seconds....still amazes me
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
They better hope he develops quicker than Nolan Patrick
- Scoob

fixed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
i would rather see what Carsen can do instead of Andreoff.
- Peter Richards


Same. I don't get Andreoff.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
Hall is a rental. 45 games and playoffs. What if he has a handshake deal with Devils to sign back on July 1?
- PLindbergh31

Just because he looks special doesn't mean he is special.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 5:50 PM ET
Subban is mediocre. Has been for a long time now imo. Never understood why people were so high on him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:57 PM ET
Thats the problem. Skating and checking well isnt enough to be in the top 6. None of the players in my bottom 6 or minors can step into that role IMO. Frost would be the closest one but i dont feel he is ready yet. Laughton on 3rd line is his ceiling
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Skating and checking well is better than having a scorer who can't score anymore and can't skate or check.

Why do you think he wasn't playing in LA?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:00 PM ET


That is intent to injure right there.

But Farabee gets 5 minutes, game misconduct, and three games and Ellis gets nothing but two minutes.

- Scoob


It's absolutely mind boggling. He raises up into the hit with an elbow to the head. How that is not suspendable at all is, I can't find the words for it. Yet Farabee gets 3.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
It's absolutely mind boggling. He raises up into the hit with an elbow to the head. How that is not suspendable at all is, I can't find the words for it. Yet Farabee gets 3.
- MJL



It honestly makes 0 sense to me.

Farabee should have gotten a game at most but that being said how does Ellis get nothing?

NHL logic.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
It honestly makes 0 sense to me.

Farabee should have gotten a game at most but that being said how does Ellis get nothing?

NHL logic.

- opeth_pa

I feel like a ton of politicking goes on behind the scenes with these suspensions. The punishment often makes little to no sense. Other leagues don't seem to have this problem.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 6:24 PM ET
Skating and checking well is better than having a scorer who can't score anymore and can't skate or check.

Why do you think he wasn't playing in LA?

- MJL

Drum roll.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Dec 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
Drum roll.
- Peter Richards

🥁 🥁
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 17 @ 6:31 PM ET
It's absolutely mind boggling. He raises up into the hit with an elbow to the head. How that is not suspendable at all is, I can't find the words for it. Yet Farabee gets 3.
- MJL

Well to me farabee hit almost wasn’t worth the 5 min let alone suspension. As of now to me it only appears the suspension length depends on the injury and to some extent who the player is. Had konecny been unconscious (just a recent example) my bet is there is a call. Just look at the hate pens. Malkin has his elbow high hits he knows are coming from behind along the wall. Has done it for years. Jake and Johnny b last year. You prob have multiple examples of this as well. Benn the other night hitting kadri in the balls. If Tom Wilson does that to almost anyone what happens.

AV was great in his response. Pretty much sums up how I feel.
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