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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:59 AM ET
seat geek. weekends are usually more but you still should be able to get tickets in the upper level for less than that. you know what is really sad, you can get tickets at the Barclay center and Florida for like 15.00.
- nastyflyergirl


Thanks, I'll check.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
Like when Hextall gave him Lindblom and Lehtera to choose from, and Hak picked Lehtera.
- Feanor



To the day I die i will NEVER understand that decision
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
Players earn ice time with their play. If a player plays better, he'll get more ice time.
You're narrative that Aube-Kubel has never been given a "real" chance is nonsense.

You still can't tell me why Lindblom was scratched. You also ignore the fact of how often Hakstol chose Lindblom over Lehtera.

You add Hart, Niskanen and Hayes to the PK, it gets better. Players play, coaches coach.

- MJL


How did NAK earn 13 minutes in his first game back? He hadn't played in the NHL for a year.

Only Hak knows why he put a useless vet in the lineup for his final ever game as an NHL head coach. Why would you expect me to know why he did something so stupid?

The Flyers changed the PK as soon as Hak was let go, and it's been much better ever since. Even with Elliott in net, and before they added Niskanen and Hayes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
You're the only one calling him a Saint. Hextall made plenty of mistakes, chiefly hiring an incompetent college coach, and then not firing him when he lost the team.
- Feanor


Don't forget the Weise signing, not addressing the goaltending issue last year, and everything involving Manning and AMac over Morin and Sanheim.

Hextall was a mixed bag, as are all GMs. He excelled at certain areas, but was not without his flaws.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 18 @ 10:07 AM ET
You're the only one calling him a Saint. Hextall made plenty of mistakes, chiefly hiring an incompetent college coach, and then not firing him when he lost the team.
- Feanor

oddly enough I have no issue at all with him hiring a college coach. in fact I applaud him for thinking outside the box; not getting retread. it didn't work and yes should have been fired.

tyrant saint Ronnie set his handpicked coach up to fail. Never gave him any quality assistants and had one be a fn mole.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Dec 18 @ 10:07 AM ET
I hate the lacrosse goal.

Call me a geezer, I don't care.

- Scoob

You got it, boomer
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 18 @ 10:08 AM ET
To the day I die i will NEVER understand that decision
- nastyflyergirl

why? could be many reasons we are not privy too. Not as simple to say he should have played over him.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:13 AM ET
To add to your opinion Saint Ronnie the GM did the damage. For half a decade he put an inferior product on the ice. Hakstol deserves some blame no doubt though ultimately it was the GM. Can only play the players you are given. The fans finally had enough. Ronald contributed greatly to making this organization irrelevant as we sit here today.

Add increasing ticket prices, overpriced concessions, 25 bucks or whatever it is to park. The place was absolutely empty last night. A ghost town

- daryl stanley



as a fan Its nice to see them starting to make strides....people can make excuses for the previous regime, but the proof is in the results. Thank Christ they fired both Hextall and Hackstol . Both were fired with cause. Some will argue that Hextall would have taken the Flyers to new heights, he just needed more time....but there is no proof to that and those still in Hextall's corner are dealing strickly in opinion.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:14 AM ET
To the day I die i will NEVER understand that decision
- nastyflyergirl


Let's not pretend Lindblom was as he is now. The Lindblom was playing like a 4th liner when Hakstol had him. Over the course of the season he elevated his play. It's development. A player doesnt just arrive at his full potential, they grow.

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:17 AM ET
To the day I die i will NEVER understand that decision
- nastyflyergirl


sometimes guys are banged up or struggling and the messages aren't getting through. A coach's only real recourse is ice time. I didn't like a lot of Hakstols decisions, but I liked his results a lot less.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:18 AM ET
why? could be many reasons we are not privy too. Not as simple to say he should have played over him.
- daryl stanley


there was no reason to play Lehtera over Lindblom. Lehtera was so obviously done.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
there was no reason to play Lehtera over Lindblom. Lehtera was so obviously done.
- nastyflyergirl


it probably had more to do with Lindblom's play then Lehtera's ability.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:20 AM ET
Let's not pretend Lindblom was as he is now. The Lindblom was playing like a 4th liner when Hakstol had him. Over the course of the season he elevated his play. It's development. A player doesnt just arrive at his full potential, they grow.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



yeah, no disagree but whatever
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
Not that hex would care but to me is the year that his drafting and rebuild can be fairly judged. If player like Kase and Nak can contribute when injuries happen, it will show well on how Hexy stock piled picks. If not, then you have be a little suspect.

You have Pitt who keeps chugging along with spare parts even though they didn’t stick pile picks. You had Boston who rebuilt in the fly, there are also teams who floundered. I like what I see, I hope the kids can step forward and stay forward
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 18 @ 10:22 AM ET
there was no reason to play Lehtera over Lindblom. Lehtera was so obviously done.
- nastyflyergirl

disagree. coach has more info then fans as to why he makes his decisions.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 18 @ 10:29 AM ET
disagree. coach has more info then fans as to why he makes his decisions.
- daryl stanley


like narcotics discounts
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
You got it, boomer
- KINGKENZO


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:31 AM ET
How did NAK earn 13 minutes in his first game back? He hadn't played in the NHL for a year.

Only Hak knows why he put a useless vet in the lineup for his final ever game as an NHL head coach. Why would you expect me to know why he did something so stupid?

The Flyers changed the PK as soon as Hak was let go, and it's been much better ever since. Even with Elliott in net, and before they added Niskanen and Hayes.

- Feanor



Numerous injuries and he played better than he had in the past. Pretty simple. Also an older and more developed player. That's what happens in the AHL sometimes.

I'd expect you to know because any reasonable opinion on a decision was made would want to know why it was done to form an accurate opinion. Rather than just base on a hatred and unreasonable bias.

The same assistant coach was handling the PK after Hakstol was fired. The poor PK was on the players, not the coaches in my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 18 @ 10:33 AM ET
there was no reason to play Lehtera over Lindblom. Lehtera was so obviously done.
- nastyflyergirl



You don't know that for a fact. I would speculate that it had something to do with Lindblom and not that he thought Lehtera added something. It was just who he had to fill in.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 18 @ 10:38 AM ET
there was no reason to play Lehtera over Lindblom. Lehtera was so obviously done.
- nastyflyergirl

In their minds, justification of the salary they picked up
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
In their minds, justification of the salary they picked up
- DaveofYork


I think Lehtera played "the right way" and "consistently." Not necessarily "good" though.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 18 @ 10:50 AM ET

Weather or whatever, I’d like to think that those empty seats in the arena represented all of us who were there in spirit. Believe me, I was holding up my sign. Pictures from yesterday of Lindblom, the Flyers and fans were amazing! Much love for Oskar.

corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
Attendence isnt a huge issue. When the weather is bad people tend to stay in. Flyers average 91.2% this season of their stadium so Im not worried.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



91.2% is nothing to brag about. That is also tix sold, not people in seats. at a minimum that is 8.8% fewer people being in the arena to purchase products. I am sure that some of that 8.8% would have driven to the arena and would pay to park.

Unless you are an employee of the Flyers you really have no reason to worry.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Dec 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
you saint Ronnie acolytes and apologist crack me up.
- daryl stanley


It’s not apologizing for Hextall, but more a frank assessment of his tenure. His decision to slow-walk the rebuild will always be controversial with I’m sure, a fair amount of those who were either for it or against it (I understand both sides on this). What also can’t be denied is his work building up the farm system and clearing up the cap.

There’s no doubt they’re in a better position than they were 4-5 years ago going forward. They’re now seeing the fruits of all of Hextall’s work. Perhaps Hexy is a better GM in a complete rebuild scenario than one that is in a win-now or ascending mode. Being critical of his moves while praising his role in drafting and development are not mutually exclusive.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
Tickets sold is what matters. Nobody buys tickets without the intention of going. Sometime life happens and things prevent you from going but if tickets are being bought, fans want to be at the games, that is what matters.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


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