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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:00 PM ET
Yup, is it that time of the season where wins are more scarce then goals or effort?
- NuckUp


It doesn’t matter how hard you try if you aren’t good enough (at anything).
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:00 PM ET
Trade him for a first and 2nd
- manvanfan


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:02 PM ET
Why did they split up Tanev and Hughes?

Why has Gaudette not got a bump up to 1st PP over Boeser or Horvat?

Why does the coaching staff not use analytics in game to see where they are going wrong?

- manvanfan


Edler injury - someone needs to carry Myers, might as well be Hughes.

1st year player

How do you know that they aren’t using “analitics”
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 8:09 PM ET
Edler injury - someone needs to carry Myers, might as well be Hughes.

1st year player

How do you know that they aren’t using “analitics”

- 1970vintage

Yeah I would have to say the only thing Hughes I'd going for Myers is rack up his Corsi for. Defensively they are cringe worthy. Tanev better than Myers.

Hughes Tanev
Fatty Myers
Benn Stecher
When Edler back. Trade stecher and move Benn over.

Travis said they don't use it much in game.

I'd keep Leivo and virtanen for another season or two.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
4-1 4 minutes left in the second. Zack Lind Goldy and Boucher with the goals . 2 assists for Rafferty
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
I think Green is a fine coach, but this is the team he wanted, so he made his bed.
- 1970vintage

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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
Yeah I would have to say the only thing Hughes I'd going for Myers is rack up his Corsi for. Defensively they are cringe worthy. Tanev better than Myers.

Hughes Tanev
Fatty Myers
Benn Stecher
When Edler back. Trade stecher and move Benn over.

Travis said they don't use it much in game.

I'd keep Leivo and virtanen for another season or two.

- manvanfan


I don't think Benn and Stecher like each other.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
and
- Makita


I didn’t say he was a great coach, even a good one. But to me, he isn’t “the” problem.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 18 @ 8:39 PM ET
I haven't seen Miller yelling at any other players.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You don’t watch the games.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
I don't think Benn and Stecher like each other.
- VANTEL

I just want them to be their bests
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 18 @ 8:44 PM ET
I didn’t say he was a great coach, even a good one. But to me, he isn’t “the” problem.
- 1970vintage

He may not be, and he may be part of the problem. He certainly has shown he doesn’t have the skills to fix the problem.

Just my opinion, I was just disagreeing that he is a fine coach. Three different years with three different rosters and the exact same results.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 8:50 PM ET
He may not be, and he may be part of the problem. He certainly has shown he doesn’t have the skills to fix the problem.

Just my opinion, I was just disagreeing that he is a fine coach. Three different years with three different rosters and the exact same results.

- Makita

I would say he is the problem. The roster has changed and the results are different but yet still the same.

After watching AC Milan go through 7 coaches in 5 years. I've seen all different coaching styles. Watching the same players play differently for each. Sometimes one player is better and individuals thrive but the best coaches get the team to play as a unit.

I'm not seeing Van play as a unit.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
4-1 4 minutes left in the second. Zack Lind Goldy and Boucher with the goals . 2 assists for Rafferty
- VANTEL

Time to trade a player here and there and give some Utica players some NHL games to let them know where they need to be for next season.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 18 @ 8:59 PM ET
Time to trade a player here and there and give some Utica players some NHL games to let them know where they need to be for next season.
- manvanfan


There will probably be a coaching change before that happens.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
I didn’t say he was a great coach, even a good one. But to me, he isn’t “the” problem.
- 1970vintage


Interesting white-towel podcast with Ed Willes, asserting that the team is largely in the same place as it has been the last three years. Maybe a little more positive outlook with the young players (Hughes, EP, BB, Miller) but overall position and competitiveness largely unchanged.

While Willes is not the most provocative commentator, it was interesting that he notes that Green’s preferred style of play (up tempo, pressure oriented) isn’t matched by the makeup of the team, while Benning promotes a grinding “hard skill” style that isn’t matched by the coaching. Basically they aren’t on the same page.

Ed suggests that if there is a change during the season it would be Green (“but who do you get to replace him”?) and if there isn’t one until the end of the season it would be Benning (“but does that mean you have to reset and give up one or more young players to change direction”). Not novel thinking there.

Also says the most interesting benchmark coming up is Arizona, who are now looking like the team the Canucks talked about building.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Dec 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
I don't think Benn and Stecher like each other.
- VANTEL


If OJ and Rafferty do then there are your in season replacements.

A new coach might have the rope to make that call. Canuck PR office will hate to lose the local boys but can live with it if it means wins.

Do you think the rookies by TDL would be ready?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:07 PM ET
Time to trade a player here and there and give some Utica players some NHL games to let them know where they need to be for next season.
- manvanfan


Who can you trade that has value?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
Who can you trade that has value?
- VANTEL

Depending on who you want to trade.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
The Canuck locker room is becoming ____________
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
Interesting white-towel podcast with Ed Willes, asserting that the team is largely in the same place as it has been the last three years. Maybe a little more positive outlook with the young players (Hughes, EP, BB, Miller) but overall position and competitiveness largely unchanged.

While Willes is not the most provocative commentator, it was interesting that he notes that Green’s preferred style of play (up tempo, pressure oriented) isn’t matched by the makeup of the team, while Benning promotes a grinding “hard skill” style that isn’t matched by the coaching. Basically they aren’t on the same page.

Ed suggests that if there is a change during the season it would be Green (“but who do you get to replace him”?) and if there isn’t one until the end of the season it would be Benning (“but does that mean you have to reset and give up one or more young players to change direction”). Not novel thinking there.

Also says the most interesting benchmark coming up is Arizona, who are now looking like the team the Canucks talked about building.

- SlightlyOffside

The systems were supposed to be changed for this season. They look like the same now.

I doubt you need to change the core players but second fiddles be exchanged if not working out.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:15 PM ET
The Canuck locker room is becoming ____________
- A_SteamingLombardi


A whore house
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
Who can you trade that has value?
- VANTEL


Brock.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 18 @ 9:18 PM ET
The Canuck locker room is becoming ____________
- A_SteamingLombardi


A Coke factory.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:19 PM ET
The systems were supposed to be changed for this season. They look like the same now.

I doubt you need to change the core players but second fiddles be exchanged if not working out.

- manvanfan



I think we are just in a slump . I am disappointed in Bo mainly. I think Benning has wasted a lot of cap and he needs to fix that fast.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 18 @ 9:21 PM ET
A Coke factory.
- Reubenkincade


That is a big big move. I am not a BB fan but that might be a move that could bite you in the ass.
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