Really don't know about him, might be time to cut bait with him and see if he still has value. But he is still very young and players mature at different times
- Buff36

I think the clock is ticking on him. He goes from a 2C to zilch in the minors so far. I hope he turns it around. Rochester needs him and hopefully Taylor will get something out of him.

Intentional grounding in the 1st quarter, on the 30 yard pass to Edelman, Phillips getting mugged at the line.
- Buff36

The refs weren't good but are they ever in the NFL?

The refs weren't good but are they ever in the NFL?
- mhp

I don’t think they cost us the game by any means though

Allen was poop for 75% of the game
Once we went up 17-10,
our offense did absolutely nothing till the last drive

They did
But it didn’t have an effect on the game
We still moved the ball after that
- jdfitz77

They would have tacked on another 15 yards with the penalty. It was a crucial moment in the game with the score 24-17. Those yards would have helped.

Yeah True, but not many GM's have cap space right now, and it makes it harder. Don't think it's as easy as you make it.
- Buff36

Sorry, not directed at you specifically.
No cap space is another excuse.
15 of 31 teams have room enough.
Let's all refute the excuse making.


TEAM # CONTRACTS $ CAP SPACE
Detroit Red Wings 23/23 $11,352,086 LTIR
Carolina Hurricanes 21/23 $2,705,007
Minnesota Wild 22/23 $3,227,213
Anaheim Ducks 23/23 $3,807,289
Tampa Bay Lightning 21/23 $3,979,132
Nashville Predators 22/23 $5,324,434
New York Rangers 22/23 $5,902,799
Montreal Canadiens 22/23 $7,457,404
Winnipeg Jets 23/23 $8,136,976
Los Angeles Kings 22/23 $8,489,579
Ottawa Senators 22/23 $9,503,116
New York Islanders 23/23 $9,543,635
New Jersey Devils 23/23 $9,747,969
Columbus Blue Jackets 23/23 $10,189,438
Colorado Avalanche 22/23 $11,297,518

There are some good trade partners there.
Also available to Jason to expand the list,
- money in / money out trade
- retention of salary / cap

Sorry, not directed at you specifically.
No cap space is another excuse.
15 of 31 teams have room enough.
Let's all refute the excuse making.


TEAM # CONTRACTS $ CAP SPACE
Detroit Red Wings 23/23 $11,352,086 LTIR
Carolina Hurricanes 21/23 $2,705,007
Minnesota Wild 22/23 $3,227,213
Anaheim Ducks 23/23 $3,807,289
Tampa Bay Lightning 21/23 $3,979,132
Nashville Predators 22/23 $5,324,434
New York Rangers 22/23 $5,902,799
Montreal Canadiens 22/23 $7,457,404
Winnipeg Jets 23/23 $8,136,976
Los Angeles Kings 22/23 $8,489,579
Ottawa Senators 22/23 $9,503,116
New York Islanders 23/23 $9,543,635
New Jersey Devils 23/23 $9,747,969
Columbus Blue Jackets 23/23 $10,189,438
Colorado Avalanche 22/23 $11,297,518

There are some good trade partners there.
Also available to Jason to expand the list,
- money in / money out trade
- retention of salary / cap
- IonSabres

Find a partner and make the trade for the top 6 player then add bogo on expiring contract to make dollars work.

I don’t think they cost us the game by any means though

Allen was poop for 75% of the game
Once we went up 17-10,
our offense did absolutely nothing till the last drive
- jdfitz77

Probably not, but if that intentional grounding is called they might not score that 1st touchdown

About right, about the same for some of the players on the Sabres.
- Buff36

Yes, potentially.
If Jason makes a good move for a 2C, and hits a home run by also getting a 2 or 3 RW, I suspect the player who last year shot 6 percentage points higher than his 9 year average of 10.8% might actually get more chances and score more.

Jason has the opportunity to upgrade 3 positions with 2 moves (potentially even just 1). That is what he should be thinking...not Bogo should get me a 2nd at the TDL.

Find a partner and make the trade for the top 6 player then add bogo on expiring contract to make dollars work.
- IndianaSabresFan

How many of those teams want to subtract a top 9 forward from their roster right now ?

How many of those teams want to subtract a top 9 forward from their roster right now ?
- Pegullaville

Another excuse.

We just saw a league MVP traded.
Last year we saw Stone
They are out there, his job is to make it happen.

#NoMoreExcusesJason!

Sorry, not directed at you specifically.
No cap space is another excuse.
15 of 31 teams have room enough.
Let's all refute the excuse making.


TEAM # CONTRACTS $ CAP SPACE
Detroit Red Wings 23/23 $11,352,086 LTIR
Carolina Hurricanes 21/23 $2,705,007
Minnesota Wild 22/23 $3,227,213
Anaheim Ducks 23/23 $3,807,289
Tampa Bay Lightning 21/23 $3,979,132
Nashville Predators 22/23 $5,324,434
New York Rangers 22/23 $5,902,799
Montreal Canadiens 22/23 $7,457,404
Winnipeg Jets 23/23 $8,136,976
Los Angeles Kings 22/23 $8,489,579
Ottawa Senators 22/23 $9,503,116
New York Islanders 23/23 $9,543,635
New Jersey Devils 23/23 $9,747,969
Columbus Blue Jackets 23/23 $10,189,438
Colorado Avalanche 22/23 $11,297,518

There are some good trade partners there.
Also available to Jason to expand the list,
- money in / money out trade
- retention of salary / cap
- IonSabres

Wasn't directed at you either ion, there's a few, but what do they want and do we have what they want. again 2 GM'S have to come together, it's not pick up the phone and say I want said player and here you can have Bogo back.

Trade Mitts now before it’s too late.

They would have tacked on another 15 yards with the penalty. It was a crucial moment in the game with the score 24-17. Those yards would have helped.
- mhp

We got them anyways
All it would’ve done was left more time for the Pats if we’d have scored
That missed call didn’t matter at all

Yes, potentially.
If Jason makes a good move for a 2C, and hits a home run by also getting a 2 or 3 RW, I suspect the player who last year shot 6 percentage points higher than his 9 year average of 10.8% might actually get more chances and score more.

Jason has the opportunity to upgrade 3 positions with 2 moves (potentially even just 1). That is what he should be thinking...not Bogo should get me a 2nd at the TDL.
- IonSabres

Take it easy, wasn't even talking about Skinner, I was talking about Vesey and Mojo. But since you brought it up, don't care what he shot last year, he needs to start cashing the chances he does get, cause he is getting them. And even he said in a interview that he needs to start cashing in on his chances, and it doesn't matter who he plays with because that is just a excuse.

Probably not, but if that intentional grounding is called they might not score that 1st touchdown
- Buff36

Maybe not
But who knows?

It’s sour grapes to complain about the officiating
Our offense (Allen) sucked for most of yesterday,
that’s why we lost
Not the officials

Maybe not
But who knows?

It’s sour grapes to complain about the officiating
Our offense (Allen) sucked for most of yesterday,
that’s why we lost
Not the officials
- jdfitz77

Pretty much, he missed 2 huge passes both to Knox, on the first drive after the turnover, and that last one in the 4th. But just not on him, the Defense couldn't get of the field.

Take it easy, wasn't even talking about Skinner, I was talking about Vesey and Mojo. But since you brought it up, don't care what he shot last year, he needs to start cashing the chances he does get, cause he is getting them. And even he said in a interview that he needs to start cashing in on his chances, and it doesn't matter who he plays with because that is just a excuse.
- Buff36

I'm actually pretty relaxed, thanks.
Just sick of the excuses for not addressing gaping holes he has known about for 1 TDL and 2 off-seasons...since he dumped ROR.
#NoMoreExcusesJason!

Having watched Sheary and Vesey, it does makes me wonder about his Pro Scouts(s).

Pretty much, he missed 2 huge passes both to Knox, on the first drive after the turnover, and that last one in the 4th. But just not on him, the Defense couldn't get of the field.
- Buff36

True as well
After we went up 17-10,
defense gave up 3 scoring drives

I wonder if they got worn down at all though bc the offense could’ve stay on the field
Time of possession was pretty brutal

Pretty much, he missed 2 huge passes both to Knox, on the first drive after the turnover, and that last one in the 4th. But just not on him, the Defense couldn't get of the field.
- Buff36

The D was not very good last night from what I watched, I missed all the 3rd and half the 4th. Returned in time to watch NE's drive to go ahead for good.

They need to invest more on that side of the ball if this is what we can expect from Allen to be this erratic. Power running game gives them fits up the gut of the D.

The D was not very good last night from what I watched, I missed all the 3rd and half the 4th. Returned in time to watch NE's drive to go ahead for good.

They need to invest more on that side of the ball if this is what we can expect from Allen to be this erratic. Power running game gives them fits up the gut of the D.
- IonSabres

sloppy tackling

many times when tackled, the rb got another 3 or 4 yards, like puz's last year as our lb


they need 2 really good lb's


on O, 2 really good o linemen, a backup rb and a big play WR


the needs are few, but very obvious in games like this and the baltimore game

Maybe not
But who knows?

It’s sour grapes to complain about the officiating
Our offense (Allen) sucked for most of yesterday,
that’s why we lost
Not the officials
- jdfitz77

Good lord Allen played the second best game of any QB has against NE this year.

Our defense gave up a 17 play drive starting at the 1 yesterday.

Another game where every, single, point scored is on the back of Josh Allen.

Devin Singletary has 1 long run all season and he’s been put on some pedestal.

How about someone breaks a tackle and takes one to the house?

Nope, it’s just Allen

NE RB‘s had multiple 20 yard runs yesterday

Devin Singletary- 0

But let’s *just* talk about the 3 missed passes Allen had.

It’s getting old, fast

I don’t think they cost us the game by any means though

Allen was poop for 75% of the game
Once we went up 17-10,
our offense did absolutely nothing till the last drive
- jdfitz77

Watch out. You aren’t allowed to say anything bad about Allen in these threads. He’s “everyones” qb here.

NE RB‘s had multiple 20 yard runs yesterday

Devin Singletary- 0

But let’s *just* talk about the 3 missed passes Allen had.

It’s getting old, fast
- sbroads24

Boards I am not laying it all on Allen, I like Allen but you can't take away the missed throw on that first drive, would have been nice to have 7 instead of 3, and the last one, he needs to hit those. The defense was not it's usual self, didn't have the greatest game.

https://youtu.be/CP6SBXl4KiI