This year and last year are night and day.

Jack is on a whole new level
Olofsson is great
Krueger is %100 better than phail lousley
Ullmark looks much better
The lockport line is actually decent instead of horrible
Asplund looks like a nhl player
Risto is a + instead of a -47
Joker looks good
Montour looks good

Skins needs to get going

Really night and day.

1 of 3 nhl teams with 3 regulation losses at home

In the hunt at Christmas
- Boss34

41 points in 37 games


last season
45 points in the first 37 games

Allen ended the day with 250 yards, 2 TD’s, 0 turnovers and a 102 passer rating.

Yes, he played well. On the road, in New England.

How about Devin Singletary averages more than 3.0 yards per carry? Or our defense doesn’t give up a 17 play drive that took almost an entire quarter. Or our left tackle doesn’t trip over his shoes on a 4th down
- sbroads24

Or the 2 throws he missed for touchdowns, he played decent, had a good passer rating, completed 50% of his passes, and had almost half his passing yards on 2 throws. Neither side of the ball did enough to win the game. The defense has bailed this team out plenty this year, the offense had a chance yesterday to return the favor, but missed on 2 very makeable chances.

Allen ended the day with 250 yards, 2 TD’s, 0 turnovers and a 102 passer rating.

Yes, he played well. On the road, in New England.

How about Devin Singletary averages more than 3.0 yards per carry? Or our defense doesn’t give up a 17 play drive that took almost an entire quarter. Or our left tackle doesn’t trip over his shoes on a 4th down
- sbroads24

No, he didn’t
You’re wrong

Yes... Singletary & the defense struggled too

Allen didn’t move the ball at all on all but 3 drives
That’s not “good”
17pts is not “good”
This isn’t rocket science

What do you think about nick foligno?

Good enough to boost skins?
- Boss34

He's a LW isn't he ? if he can play RW i'm good with it. Can't see the Jackets moving him.

What do you think about nick foligno?

Good enough to boost skins?
- Boss34

not a center

lw for third line

I like Toffoli, Zucker, and others but, we need a true center for the 2nd line.

Lock looking like a good prospect

👍
- Boss34

Small sample size, but liking what I’m seeing so far.

He's a LW isn't he ? if he can play RW i'm good with it. Can't see the Jackets moving him.
- SABRES 89

Boone Jenner

I like Toffoli, Zucker, and others but, we need a true center for the 2nd line.
- SABRES 89

Isn't Zucker out 6 to 8 weeks

That’s a terrible argument

Yeah... the Saints had some bad drives
But their offense scored 38points, not 17

So their offense had at least 6 good drives
Double what we had

If we a had 6 good drives,
we win that game
- jdfitz77

They're also the Saints, and the Titans ain't the Pats.

The opponent absolutely matters. The Pats don't lose at home.

I like Toffoli, Zucker, and others but, we need a true center for the 2nd line.
- SABRES 89

zuckers out for 6 weeks

No, he didn’t
You’re wrong

Yes... Singletary & the defense struggled too

Allen didn’t move the ball at all on all but 3 drives
That’s not “good”
17pts is not “good”
This isn’t rocket science
- jdfitz77

You’re right, it isn’t.

Between passing and rushing Allen averaged 7.6 yards per touch.

That’s good

Allen had a 102.5 passer rating. That’s good

The *Bills* only scored 17 points. That’s not good enough.

Unfortunately Josh Allen isn’t the only one who has the ability to score points

zuckers out for 6 weeks
- homiedclown

I know but he was mentioned before.

I answered the question.

ROR and Pilut or Mojo and Miller?

What does it matter?

O'Reilly did NOTHING while he was here to pull us out of the basement.
- Powerslave

Neither did Jack those years
And i don’t pose the question
And it’s a dumb argument of you to make

Pat Kane & Toews aren’t pulling their team outta last in the division
Still great players

Hall in Jersey
Doughty & Kopitar in LA
Larkin in Detroit

And on & on & on year after year
Lack of success by the TEAM doesn’t mean they don’t have good players that can lead successful teams

ROR is an amazing example
And we’d be MUCH, MUCH better with him still here

They're also the Saints, and the Titans ain't the Pats.

The opponent absolutely matters. The Pats don't lose at home.
- Wetbandit1

I’m not saying the opponent doesn’t matter

And I’m not ONLY blaming Allen

But having zero success on all but 3 drives is far from “good”
Maybe u could say “ok” considering it was at NE

But “ok” clearly wasn’t enough

They're also the Saints, and the Titans ain't the Pats.

The opponent absolutely matters. The Pats don't lose at home.
- Wetbandit1

“Brady the previous five games completed 51.5 percent of his passes, 12.3 points below his career clip. The Patriots won three of those games, but none against an opponent with a winning record. They began December with consecutive losses to the Houston Texans and at home to the Kansas City Chiefs.”

“Brady the previous five games completed 51.5 percent of his passes, 12.3 points below his career clip. The Patriots won three of those games, but none against an opponent with a winning record. They began December with consecutive losses to the Houston Texans and at home to the Kansas City Chiefs.”
- Pegullaville

Kansas City scored 23 points against them.

Which wouldn’t have been enough yesterday

You’re right, it isn’t.

Between passing and rushing Allen averaged 7.6 yards per touch.

That’s good

Allen had a 102.5 passer rating. That’s good

The *Bills* only scored 17 points. That’s not good enough.

Unfortunately Josh Allen isn’t the only one who has the ability to score points
- sbroads24

3-10 for 19yds before the last drive of the first half
That’s horrible any way u slice it

And what were his stats in between the Brown TD & the last drive of the game?


And it wasn’t just Allen... but he sure as sh!t wasn’t “good” in these times
When there is essentially zero offense for that many drives all game long,
you can’t say he was “good”
No way
That’s setting the bar way too low for your standard of what’s “good”

3-10 for 19yds before the last drive of the first half
That’s horrible any way u slice it

And what were his stats in between the Brown TD & the last drive of the game?


And it wasn’t just Allen... but he sure as sh!t wasn’t “good” in these times
When there is essentially zero offense for that many drives all game long,
you can’t say he was “good”
No way
That’s setting the bar way too low for your standard of what’s “good”
- jdfitz77

You will never be right

3-10 for 19yds before the last drive of the first half
That’s horrible any way u slice it

And what were his stats in between the Brown TD & the last drive of the game?


And it wasn’t just Allen... but he sure as sh!t wasn’t “good” in these times
When there is essentially zero offense for that many drives all game long,
you can’t say he was “good”
No way
That’s setting the bar way too low for your standard of what’s “good”
- jdfitz77

I don’t know what else to say man. This is absurd.

250 yards and two TD’s is a 4000 yard 32 TD pace over 16 games.

In what make believe world is that not good?

You’re back to making a bad point that we only had 3 good drives (this happens when the other team only gives you 7 possessions) and hammering that bad point into the sun.

Allen was good. Period. Not great. Not spectacular, maybe not really good. Good.

I don’t know what else to say man. This is absurd.

250 yards and two TD’s is a 4000 yard 32 TD pace over 16 games.

In what make believe world is that not good?

You’re back to making a bad point that we only had 3 good drives (this happens when the other team only gives you 7 possessions) and hammering that bad point into the sun.

Allen was good. Period. Not great. Not spectacular, maybe not really good. Good.
- sbroads24

13-26 for 208yds passing is NOT “good”
It’s below average

13-26 for 208yds passing is NOT “good”
It’s below average
- jdfitz77

8 yards per attempt is absolutely good.

He wasn’t given many attempts because our defense forced 2 punts all game

He's a LW isn't he ? if he can play RW i'm good with it. Can't see the Jackets moving him.
- SABRES 89

Dubinsky? If his wrist ever heals... if he’d wave to come here?

8 yards per attempt is absolutely good.

He wasn’t given many attempts because our defense forced 2 punts all game
- sbroads24

The defence is also the reason you are 10-5 and not 6-9 right now.

Kansas City scored 23 points against them.

Which wouldn’t have been enough yesterday
- sbroads24

The Chiefs were up 23-6 and took their foot off the gas.