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He scored 37 with Victor Rask as his center - sbroads24
Can we pry Rask out of Minny and put him back with Skinner... PLEASE! I’m tired of the wing playing center experiment or the swoft rookie playing center.... |
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The Don
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Location: Glasgow, VA Joined: 02.03.2007
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Anyone can score on eichels wing, look at Oloffson. Skinner is on pace for like 23 goals this season without a legitimate center on his linein year one for 9 mill. - Fattony1187
Mild editing for you
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He scored 37 with Victor Rask as his center - sbroads24
Cool. 4 years ago. That justifies paying him 9 million for 7 more years for 20ish goals and 40 pts. |
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hehateme
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Anyone can score on eichels wing, look at Oloffson. Skinner is on pace for like 23 goals this season in year one for 9 mill. Only gonna get worse year to year. He’s our new Okposo - Fattony1187
Skinner is fine... He needs a capable center to feed him the puck. That's not on him. That's the GM's job. He is light years better the Okposo.
And you are partly right, playing the wings on Eichels line are going to inflate your stats some because Eichel is an elite center. Take away the "Elite" player and everyone else reverts back to the norm, For Skinner that is 30 goals a year and 50 points. I said in a previous post, I'm surprised he has 11 goals so far with Larson as his center. |
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Mild editing for you - The Don
So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. |
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
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The Don
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Location: Glasgow, VA Joined: 02.03.2007
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
Not saying he needs a star center, but an NHL capable center would be nice. |
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hehateme
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
The problem is everyone likes to equate the salary with results. That is your down fall. The player does not offer himself 9 Mil, OUR GM DID. All Skinner did is sign his name to the contract.
Skinner has been in the league for many years. He is what he is. If he has a good center he will average you 30-40 goals, Larson as his center 20-25 goals.
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
Only 7.5 years left. Should go by quick |
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Not saying he needs a star center, but an NHL capable center would be nice. - The Don
Which brings us back to the ineptitude of Botts. |
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
News flash! We. Don’t. Have. A. Center.
We have a wing playing center. A swoft rookie that got sent to the A. And a erod. I bet Ovie couldn’t elevate erods play, but please go on.... |
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News flash! We. Don’t. Have. A. Center.
We have a wing playing center. A swoft rookie that got sent to the A. And a erod. I bet Ovie couldn’t elevate erods play, but please go on.... - Gr8daygo
Yet we have Botts defenders on here. Dude should of been fired already. |
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YAY more Skinner conversations.. he has become the new ROR... |
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hehateme
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YAY more Skinner conversations.. he has become the new ROR... - SabresFaninIndiana
Some people just cant get over that he makes 9 mil a year and is not scoring with Larson as his center or a winger or E-rod ( all suck) |
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gcomella34
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Location: Endicott, NY Joined: 03.03.2015
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Some people just cant get over that he makes 9 mil a year and is not scoring with Larson as his center. - hehateme
I thought Larson sought to "increase the offense of this team" when paired with Skinner.
I mean, when Larson was with Skinner he was contributing positively offensively.
Have those two been on the ice together lately? Haven't been able to watch too much lately.
Advanced stats team assemble! What was expected goals for (or whatever you nerds measure it by) when Larson and Skinner were together? |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Ya ok...
Let this sink in. Kyle Okposo has a higher Points per game avg in his first two years in Buffalo than Skinner has this year. Yikes... - Fattony1187
and kane is scoring more as a shark then with eichel
apples and oranges
now if you say player a and b get a bump playing with eichel, that's an intelligent post
saying that getting 40 goals means nothing because you have jack as a center is an insult to a milestone accomplishment
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hehateme
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I thought Larson sought to "increase the offense of this team" when paired with Skinner.
I mean, when Larson was with Skinner he was contributing positively offensively.
Have those two been on the ice together lately? Haven't been able to watch too much lately.
Advanced stats team assemble! What was expected goals for (or whatever you nerds measure it by) when Larson and Skinner were together? - gcomella34
They have not been together lately but other then Eichel, we don't have another capable center on this team and that is my point. |
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Yet we have Botts defenders on here. Dude should of been fired already. - Fattony1187
I’m not there yet with him. He has clearly fails the 2c need for 1.5 years. But he’s made some decent moves and rebuilt the pipeline in pretty short order. I’d like to see a move to clear out the d log jam and get some forward help.
I rather see a president of hockey ops hired to help steer the ship a little more. Then continue on the rinse repeat cycle of gm-coach firing... give botts another hockey mind around him. |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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So our 9 million dollar player needs another star on his line to produce? He should be elevating the play of our center. - Fattony1187
Panarin has 3 more 5 on 5 goals then skinner this season |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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They have not been together lately but other then Eichel, we don't have another capable center on this team and that is my point. - hehateme
only a soccer coach would put johansson on the first team pp over skinner |
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gcomella34
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Location: Endicott, NY Joined: 03.03.2015
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They have not been together lately but other then Eichel, we don't have another capable center on this team and that is my point. - hehateme
And we're on the same page here somewhat.
Some of Larson's best offensive play as a Sabre was right next to Skinner. He's not going to make EVERYONE better as some players complement others better than some other players. But........if Skinner can make Larson a larger point producer than he has historically been....what does that say about him?
Johan Larson, think on that. |
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lulags
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Location: St Louis Joined: 02.24.2007
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A agree Botts has made mistakes
Mitts was a bad pic at 7 and played too soon.
ROR trade was not good
Should have solidified a 2c with extra 1st we had
But one thing I will say is this summer is the first clean slate he will have. He is still a smart GM and MAY take advantage of the situation. I say MAY because the verdict is still out. He is our GM and will be our GM this summer so we all have a chance to sing his praises or get out the pitch forks and torches |
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gcomella34
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Location: Endicott, NY Joined: 03.03.2015
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Based upon some of the reactions in here I think this is in order for all to purchase.
https://www.calm.com/
This is the first time in a while that, by this time of year, the Sabres are actually STILL relevant. Yes they need some more pieces, but this IS progress. |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Based upon some of the reactions in here I think this is in order for all to purchase.
https://www.calm.com/
This is the first time in a while that, by this time of year, the Sabres are actually STILL relevant. Yes they need some more pieces, but this IS progress. - gcomella34
we are on pace for less points then we were a year ago after 38 games |
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lulags
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Location: St Louis Joined: 02.24.2007
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we are on pace for less points then we were a year ago after 38 games - homiedclown
You are correct sir |
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