Think we all do, but what does it take to get that
- Buff36

i think we gotta offer up one of the D not named Dahlin. montour, jokiharu, risto, mccabe +.. somethign in there should get us a 2C and not really hurt us that much

it just seems to me botts won't make a move till the deadline. In fact league wide you won't see much done, too many teams bunched up in the standings and will ride it out for a while.
- mhp

I want him to make a move, but the right one. Think you are right, to many teams waiting to see what happens, and some with just no cap space

I want him to make a move, but the right one. Think you are right, to many teams waiting to see what happens, and some with just no cap space
- Buff36

I just don't see a team trading us a 2C at this time, probably not even this season. You're right, teams are up against the cap and parity throughout the league tells me making any significant move will be difficult. I would think that 2C could come over the summer.

I just don't see a team trading us a 2C at this time, probably not even this season. You're right, teams are up against the cap and parity throughout the league tells me making any significant move will be difficult. I would think that 2C could come over the summer.
- mhp

probably your best bet is to poach a really good 3C in hopes that they can be a 2C from a team that needs NHL D.. is there such a team/player. i don't know

Just to piss everyone off..

Reinhart, Pilut, Tage, 2020 1st
For Larkin

Mitts, Risto, 2021 2nd
For Tuch

Miller, Vesey w/ hold $1.4
For Kapanen

Olofsson - Eichel - Tuch
Skinner - Larkin - Kapanen/Mojo
Mojo/Sheary - Asplund - Sheary/Kapanen
Gurgs - Larson - Okposo

Dahlin - Montour
Scandella - Jokiharju
McCabe - Borgen

Next season, sign Shattenkirk for 2 - 3 seasons to play 1RhD like he is in Tampa next to Hedman.
Don't resign Scandella? Fine, find one in FA.or try Gilmour

I just don't see a team trading us a 2C at this time, probably not even this season. You're right, teams are up against the cap and parity throughout the league tells me making any significant move will be difficult. I would think that 2C could come over the summer.
- mhp

I would keep a eye on Chicago and Detroit they have some good C coming up through there systems and especially Chicago they have a RFA they just might not be able to afford

Just to piss everyone off..

Reinhart, Pilut, Tage, 2020 1st
For Larkin

Mitts, Risto, 2021 2nd
For Tuch

Miller, Vesey w/ hold $1.4
For Kapanen

Olofsson - Eichel - Tuch
Skinner - Larkin - Kapanen/Mojo
Mojo/Sheary - Asplund - Sheary/Kapanen
Gurgs - Larson - Okposo

Dahlin - Montour
Scandella - Jokiharju
McCabe - Borgen

Next season, sign Shattenkirk for 2 - 3 seasons to play 1RhD like he is in Tampa next to Hedman.
Don't resign Scandella? Fine, find one in FA.or try Gilmour
- IonSabres

Would take that all day long

I would keep a eye on Chicago and Detroit they have some good C coming up through there systems and especially Chicago they have a RFA they just might not be able to afford
- Buff36

We already fleeced the Hawks with the Joker trade and Detroit in our division makes a trade tough. I would look to the West if we make a move, still think it won't be anything significant. I wish Botts would do something but he makes me nervous when it comes to trades. Maybe Carolina would be willing to give up Haula. Just spitballing.

probably your best bet is to poach a really good 3C in hopes that they can be a 2C from a team that needs NHL D.. is there such a team/player. i don't know
- SabresFaninIndiana

JB needs to find a Zubrus. I would still like to see us poach Bjugstad. Miller and a 2nd. Throw in Erod. I think that's a hockey trade that could work

We already fleeced the Hawks with the Joker trade and Detroit in our division makes a trade tough. I would look to the West if we make a move, still think it won't be anything significant. I wish Botts would do something but he makes me nervous when it comes to trades. Maybe Carolina would be willing to give up Haula. Just spitballing.
- mhp

Thinking offseason, but you could be right.

I just don't see a team trading us a 2C at this time, probably not even this season. You're right, teams are up against the cap and parity throughout the league tells me making any significant move will be difficult. I would think that 2C could come over the summer.
- mhp

Where do you see a 2C coming from in the summer. If it’s a UFA, money and term will have to be big.

If they’re RFA or under contract, which player(s)/pick(s) are going to be enough to wrench one away from somebody?

Too often these Sabre-friendly scenarios involve simply flushing our garbage...plus a 2nd.

Where do you see a 2C coming from in the summer. If it’s a UFA, money and term will have to be big.

If they’re RFA or under contract, which player(s)/pick(s) are going to be enough to wrench one away from somebody?

Too often these Sabre-friendly scenarios involve simply flushing our garbage...plus a 2nd.
- PrinceChill

I really don't know other than Pageau. Could we do a trade for a young center and groom to be the 2C or make a deal with an RFA? Maybe. Too many questions and not enough answers. I have no idea.

Where do you see a 2C coming from in the summer. If it’s a UFA, money and term will have to be big.

If they’re RFA or under contract, which player(s)/pick(s) are going to be enough to wrench one away from somebody?

Too often these Sabre-friendly scenarios involve simply flushing our garbage...plus a 2nd.
- PrinceChill

For me, I would try two routes. Maybe throwing Mitts, another prospect and a first rounder for say Rikard Rakell or maybe taking a stab and an aging but still productive center that can get you by for 2-3 years. Maybe a player like Claude Giroux or Malkin, big dollars tied up with those players.... I would imagine it would cost you around the same amount or a little more. Maybe Risto, Mitts, prospect and a first. just spittballin

For me, I would try two routes. Maybe throwing Mitts, another prospect and a first rounder for say Rikard Rakell or maybe taking a stab and an aging but still productive center that can get you by for 2-3 years. Maybe a player like Claude Giroux or Malkin, big dollars tied up with those players.... I would imagine it would cost you around the same amount or a little more. Maybe Risto, Mitts, prospect and a first. just spittballin
- hehateme

I wouldn't hate Bonino. He can play up and down the lineup. i don't know if he can last as a 2C, but at least he has the experience that our players do not.

Johanson wouldn't be terrible either, but I don't know if they would trade him.

I wouldn't hate Bonino. He can play up and down the lineup. i don't know if he can last as a 2C, but at least he has the experience that our players do not.

Johanson wouldn't be terrible either, but I don't know if they would trade him.
- thatsapickle

I will take anyone who can actually play and produce at the #2 center position.

I will take anyone who can actually play and produce at the #2 center position.
- hehateme

Give me anyone who has a net impact of 0 and it’s an upgrade to Johansson.

I am seeing four straight losses. Hopefully, I am wrong.

Filpula (-27) has overtaken Burns (-24) in the race for the green jacket. Athanasiou still holds a commanding 9 stroke lead over his teammate though

Give me anyone who has a net impact of 0 and it’s an upgrade to Johansson.
- sbroads24

Marcus or Ryan?

Marcus or Ryan?
- thatsapickle

Marcus. He’s a bad center.

Marcus. He’s a bad center.
- sbroads24

He’d be a good 3LW though.

All I want furr Xmas is a 2c.
- mhp

y'all make it sound as if this will be jack's only hart-worthy season...I happen to think this is just the beginning
- Michael Pachla

We have Eichel for, what, 6-7 more years after this until he signs with Boston.

Botts doesn’t get credit for Fallin for Dahlin but will receive the brunt of the blame if the team doesn’t make the playoffs this year. Make up your minds people.

The ROR trade was less than stellar and Mitts is struggling right now but apart from that he’s done a very admirable job.

In 3 years, he’s added Dahlin, Joker, Montour, Miller, Skinner, Mojo, Vesey, that have had a net positive impact on the club.

Cozens, Mitts, Tage, Pilut, Samuelson, Bryson, UPL, Pekar, amongst others are progressing and have a shot of wearing the sweater and providing a net positive impact.

We have a lot of roster flexibility coming up and the two hardest positions to find are locked in long term in Eichel and Dahlin.

Botts needs to find a 2C, that’s pretty much it. Everything else is looking great long term.

We have Eichel for, what, 6-7 more years after this until he signs with Boston.
- sabreadvocate1

Just five more top ten picks and then we can think about going for the playoffs.