And just maybe Botts was hoping that by Christmas that Mitts would have taken over the 2C spot and would be able to move Mojo to wing
- Buff36

I think you spelled opening night wrong

The Montour trade was fine, your original view point of Haula over Miller makes sense. However, how did Botts know that Bowman was gonna bend over and take it in the behind and give up Joker for Nylander ?

Now he’s struggling to find value for his d-man but why make the trade when demand is low.

When you sell your house should you do it in the middle of a recession and demand is low ? Or when housing prices are sky rocketing

We shouldn’t just give away a d-man because we have an over abundance and sell for pennies on the dollar.

Be patient and wait for the right time.
- Pegullaville

That's the jackpot he put himself into by trading for half the surplus supply of RHD. It all comes back to his own doing. His roster construction was dumb and bad especially considering what he's drafted in terms of defensemen.

He backed himself into a corner and Krueger has to roll with it

I think you spelled opening night wrong
- homiedclown

Yeah, but when that didn't come to fruition at camp, maybe he showed just enough for them to think he might progress to that by know.

Yeah, but when that didn't come to fruition at camp, maybe he showed just enough for them to think he might progress to that by know.
- Buff36

I heard casey was going to rochester sooner, but the sobotka injury made him stick longer


it's a hot mess

damn I now know what the lady doctor felt like when she was trying to explain to the joker that his "jokes" were wrong



- homiedclown

I can cut off part of what I said and leave out the heart of what I said too but here is the gist:

"that analogy has been used in literature again and again and not a problem but only when Sabres fans are involved. Sabres fans are soft, the new generation."

Who is it personally offending? The soft Sabres fans? The ones who have incessantly posted their devotion because of the linemates? We should all sing The Season of the Linemates to the melody of Age of Aquarius.

"that analogy has been used in literature again and again and not a problem but only when Sabres fans are involved. Sabres fans are soft, the new generation."

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- GilPerreault11

you still hear trying to defend it?






you can't defend physical abuse

you still hear trying to defend it?






you can't defend physical abuse
- homiedclown

You do every day Trump supporter, just when Jeffy was used in an analogy to claim some Sabres' fans blind devotion, now that is too much!!!!

You do every day Trump supporter,
- GilPerreault11

you called me a snowflake

I don't bring up trump every day, the archives prove it



but please continue to spin it into something else


first you blamed women being abused


then you blamed me in 6th grade for getting a broken shoulder from a parent because of a c in shop class


then you called me a snow flake


now it's trumps fault



what you said is wrong, period

I heard casey was going to rochester sooner, but the sobotka injury made him stick longer


it's a hot mess
- homiedclown

I can believe that, even if Botts was hoping for it you could see after the first 15-20 games it wasn't happening.

I have agreed with Botts’ patience method and not overspending to acquire assets. However you can’t miss on a top 10 pick.

I have no idea what happened to Mittelstadt, this was a guy who was universally ranked as a top 5 prospect by literally anyone who evaluates prospects. His fall from grace is 50% his own doing and 50% due to Botts’ mismanagement of him. Hopefully he can figure it out but if he doesn’t, that will be Botts’ demise.
- Pegullaville

It happens. I can name 10 top tens who were elite scouting talents who were NHL busts in every 5 years for the past 25 years. It sucks when it happens, but it definitely happens. Much worse when a top 3 is a complete bust. That happens too

Being a fan is one thing, but only being a pathetic card-carrying for the underachieving is another. You should be held up for that, in my opinion.
- GilPerreault11

Not really. I’m just taking it one step further. The Sabres have won absolutely nothing to deserve any fans, according to your logic. I mean they finished dead last how many times in the last eight years? That surely beats the scoring drought skinner is currently on no? So, again, by your own logic, stop being a fan at all. Save us all the embarrassment.

botts is in panic mode


expect an over pay in the next 2 weeks
- homiedclown

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Suck up the pride and make sure you hit on this years top 10 pick.

And just maybe Botts was hoping that by Christmas that Mitts would have taken over the 2C spot and would be able to move Mojo to wing
- Buff36

If Mitts was an average 3C, this would be a much different conversation.

The only 2C that has been moved since July 1st was Kadri, and they weren’t trading him to us.
- Pegullaville

Exactly

How about we just stop making excuses for these millionaires, supposed to be the cream of the crop to make it in the NHL. Few exceptions here and there. Maybe they should just get there heads out of there asses, and start playing what there paid for.
- Buff36

They're Millennials, you can't talk to them, or about them that way Boomer!

They're Millennials, you can't talk to them, or about them that way Boomer!
- IonSabres

This millennial has not made a single excuse for Sam and Jeff.

We aren’t winning anything with those two guys as our 2nd and 3rd best forwards.

The tank was supposed to be done to draft high end players early and build a cup core.

Yet everyone is satisfied with us essentially replacing the players we traded away Sam (Pominville) and Skinner (Vanek).

Eichel > Danny but Jesus Briere was one of the most underrated players of the 2000-2010 decade of hockey.

The simplest answer is this:

JB should have traded for Haula instead of Miller. There are other answers, but it's not worth getting into the weeds debating what players were or weren't available.

We all recognized in July that he over invested in defense and didnt address the forwards properly

If a bunch of idiots on the internet saw it, Botterill should have seen it. Either he didn't or it was too late after he traded for Montour, Miller and Joker. In any case, he put himself in this position, not Murray. JB was gifted a 1st and "4th" line. He's had a year and a half since he traded ROR. All of it is unacceptable imo.

Merry Christmas and god bless us, everyone



It's a situation where JB wasted another year
- jcragcrumple

In hindsight, Haula probably made sense
But at the time...
Haula was a career bottom6 guy who had ONE good year with Vegas & was coming off a major injury

So my guess is that Botts was aiming higher since we were already overloaded with bottom6 guys

In late June/July,
who would you have chosen...
-trade for Haula coming off injury
-MoJo for free coming off a good playoffs + you think Mitts will be improved

Maybe it’s arguable?
But i think MoJo was a very understandable choice
And probably the one most of us would’ve made at the time as well

And isn’t Haula hurt again anyways?

Good post
- Buff36

Thanks sir

Yet everyone is satisfied with us essentially replacing the players we traded away Sam (Pominville) and Skinner (Vanek).

Eichel > Danny but Jesus Briere was one of the most underrated players of the 2000-2010 decade of hockey.
- Pegullaville

I still say the issue isn't skinner or skunk

but the lack of drurys, roys to round out the top 9 and a d man or 2 that will clear out the front of the freaking net

Thanks sir
- jdfitz77

https://buffalohockeycent...tion-a-reminder-of-risks/

I still say the issue isn't skinner or skunk

but the lack of drurys, roys to round out the top 9 and a d man or 2 that will clear out the front of the freaking net
- homiedclown

Which is fair.

We will eventually field a good middle 6.

Will it be good enough to win a cup is a different story.

Sooner or later people will become restless after several playoff exits too.

When do Beane and McDermott start getting judged for playoff success instead of just making it there ? Next year ?

Expectations will rise, we’ll see what happens.

botts is in panic mode


expect an over pay in the next 2 weeks
- homiedclown

Well maybe that does happen

But even looking back on it...
no one has made any kind of compelling statement about what Botts should’ve done differently
Other than make a move for player x who didn’t actually get moved,
so we’ve got no clue if that guy was even available to Botts

Haula <<< MoJo
Kadri just wasn’t happening

This millennial has not made a single excuse for Sam and Jeff.

We aren’t winning anything with those two guys as our 2nd and 3rd best forwards.

The tank was supposed to be done to draft high end players early and build a cup core.

Yet everyone is satisfied with us essentially replacing the players we traded away Sam (Pominville) and Skinner (Vanek).

Eichel > Danny but Jesus Briere was one of the most underrated players of the 2000-2010 decade of hockey.
- Pegullaville

So then you do think we should be tanking for Lafreniere/Byfield

The Montour trade was fine, your original view point of Haula over Miller makes sense. However, how did Botts know that Bowman was gonna bend over and take it in the behind and give up Joker for Nylander ?

Now he’s struggling to find value for his d-man but why make the trade when demand is low.

When you sell your house should you do it in the middle of a recession and demand is low ? Or when housing prices are sky rocketing

We shouldn’t just give away a d-man because we have an over abundance and sell for pennies on the dollar.

Be patient and wait for the right time.
- Pegullaville

As an advisor on financial aspects to the famous and wealthy, surely you must know the answer is fully dependent on your need to replace the house....need bigger, sell when in a recession as the price of the higher, more expensive home will vecdeflated more. If looking to downsize, sell when prices on your own, more expensive home is skyrocketing.

So the answer is, it could be either or.

I still say the issue isn't skinner or skunk

but the lack of drurys, roys to round out the top 9 and a d man or 2 that will clear out the front of the freaking net
- homiedclown

I don't back read but I started at the top of the page.

I voted for Trump and will again.

It's Merry Christmas not Happy Holidays.

That's all I got.