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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: December quick hits--the forwards
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Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
He just has to fix basically everything about how he evaluates and obtains forwards at every level, especially the NHL, and then we'll be good
- jcragcrumple


One other thought, I know the nfl has a “pro scout” position that balances with the Collage scouts. Does the NHL break out scouts into pro and amateur, if so, who’s the Sabres pro scout? Is it just Botts?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
How many teams are ACTUALLY out of it right now?

He isn't scared to make that deal. Who, on the other end, is ready to MAKE that deal?

Such a deal would probably mean that the other team is basically giving up on the season, if they're trading you their good player for, say, a 1st, top prospect (Mitts), etc, etc.

What GM is ready to do that on Dec 28th?

- Powerslave


Detroit
Ottawa
LA
NJ
Chicago
Anaheim


There's a list of 6 to start
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think we need to list out his forwards and where they are in their development curve to this point...

Mitts- rushed but talented... will Taylor fix his game and will he gain the strength to be a top 6 nhl forward.

Cozens - looking like a good one at this point. Don’t rush his work load but looks like he will need to be on the big club due to Ahl age issues and nothing left to prove in Jr’s. Just don’t force him into a 2c roll.

Roustilian (spelling). I think a botts guy. Isn’t looking too bad. Ahl next year? Potential 3/4 c with the big club?

Davidson - anyone got anything on him

Weissbach - hasn’t he been helping super midget look good?

Pekar - echl. Looks feisty. Ahl next year?

Hugland -

Cedarquvist

Rousk.

All 3 2019. I don’t follow prospects close enough to comment on those 3..... and they are 2019, probably need two more years of seasoning....

- Gr8daygo


Right now, it looks like Cozens is our only top-6 forward prospect after 3 years of "restocking the cupboard." If you want to make it 3 by throwing in Tage against the machine and Mitts, go for it

Botterill is not good at forwards
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Dec 28 @ 11:46 AM ET
Right now, it looks like Cozens is our only top-6 forward prospect after 3 years of "restocking the cupboard." If you want to make it 3 by throwing in Tage against the machine and Mitts, go for it

Botterill is not good at forwards

- jcragcrumple


But he’s clearly been focused on d because the take longer to develop?!? I think the ‘20 draft will flip his 3 draft trend to forward heavy...
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Dec 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
Detroit
Ottawa
LA
NJ
Chicago
Anaheim


There's a list of 6 to start

- jcragcrumple



Make your trade.

I'll wait.

Remember, it has to make sense for both teams.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
Make your trade.

I'll wait.

Remember, it has to make sense for both teams.

- Powerslave


Oh, we'll both wait. We'll wait til the end of the season for something that's never going to happen

Shovel another season onto the fire. Skinner out 3-4 weeks
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
But he’s clearly been focused on d because the take longer to develop?!? I think the ‘20 draft will flip his 3 draft trend to forward heavy...
- Gr8daygo


Nothing stopping him from using those d-prospects in trades either to give us NHL talent.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
pick 7
pick 1
pick 8
pick 8
pick 2
pick 2
pick 8
pick 12, pick 14
pick 16
pick 23
pick 13
pick 12, pick 26



all this and never sniffing the playoffs in going on 9 years



it's a f@cking joke

- homiedclown



Someone around here has repeatedly told me it doesnt matter where the player was picked?

This chart is meaningless in that case
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Someone around here has repeatedly told me it doesnt matter where the player was picked?

This chart is meaningless in that case

- Boss34


OH MY

Green or Black Olives ?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Skinner out 3-4 weeks.

Start selling now.
Get picks and prospects.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Right now, it looks like Cozens is our only top-6 forward prospect after 3 years of "restocking the cupboard." If you want to make it 3 by throwing in Tage against the machine and Mitts, go for it

Botterill is not good at forwards

- jcragcrumple

How long do you think prospects take, especially when they are drafted at18, the prospects that should have been taken spots on this team weren't available cause the cupboards were dry. You can blame Botts all you want, and he has made mistakes but this goes back before him to.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
How long do you think prospects take, especially when they are drafted at18, the prospects that should have been taken spots on this team weren't available cause the cupboards were dry. You can blame Botts all you want, and he has made mistakes but this goes back before him to.
- Buff36


Well we are going to be adding another top 6 forward prospect this year I can tell you that.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
Skinner out 3-4 weeks.

Start selling now.
Get picks and prospects.

- ImThatGuy

That's not good, let's see what Botts does know
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
Well we are going to be adding another top 6 forward prospect this year I can tell you that.
- Pegullaville

I agree, but it's ridiculous to lay this all on Botts, most of these kids take 3 to 5 yrs before they sniff the NHL. Botts has made mistakes, but this goes back to before him to.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:04 PM ET
Skinner out 3-4 weeks.

Start selling now.
Get picks and prospects.

- ImThatGuy


Sabres call up stars legend remie Ellie! Clearly the missing link #sarcasm


Since botts doesn’t want to make a trade. I mean who will he actually call up? Mitts has been bad in Rochester or not impactful on the stat sheet. Tage is still hurt b
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
That's not good, let's see what Botts does know
- Buff36


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
Sabres call up stars legend remie Ellie! Clearly the missing link #sarcasm


Since botts doesn’t want to make a trade. I mean who will he actually call up? Mitts has been bad in Rochester or not impactful on the stat sheet. Tage is still hurt b

- Sabretooth9

Dea, Cj Smith, Murray
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:11 PM ET

- jcragcrumple

Well we shall see
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
Perhaps Stevie Y knew something 80% of the scouts and drafting community didn’t.

Seider has looked solid this tournament.

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 28 @ 12:13 PM ET
Oh, we'll both wait. We'll wait til the end of the season for something that's never going to happen

Shovel another season onto the fire. Skinner out 3-4 weeks

- jcragcrumple


Watched the play again this morning.

Dumb idea by Skinner when he was going for a change, but does he get injured if the shoulder and elbow pads don't have the hard plastic caps that they do?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
Perhaps Stevie Y knew something 80% of the scouts and drafting community didn’t.

Seider has looked solid this tournament.

- Pegullaville


He still could have moved down and still drafted him.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
OH MY

Green or Black Olives ?

- Pegullaville


Black and blue knuckle sandwiches?
Half dozen of them?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Dea, Cj Smith, Murray
- Buff36


Murray doesn’t have an nhl contract but I forgot about CJ smith lol
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Zach Bogosian as Hitman: Agent 47, NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Dec 28 @ 12:20 PM ET
Dea, Cj Smith, Murray
- Buff36


CJ left last night's Amerks game. Left the arena and didn't get on the bus with the team. hurt again I imagine. Or for fun on the move with Scandella. But probably hurt again
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Dec 28 @ 12:22 PM ET
Sabres call up stars legend remie Ellie! Clearly the missing link #sarcasm


Since botts doesn’t want to make a trade. I mean who will he actually call up? Mitts has been bad in Rochester or not impactful on the stat sheet. Tage is still hurt b

- Sabretooth9


Dea or Ogelvie imo. Although if Larry is ready they will just keep Lazar here for a while.
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