Galchenyuk goes after Borowiecki

Galchenyuk goes after Borowiecki
- SABRES 89

What is this

Despite the fact he was tanking for half of his tenure, Murray traded away two first round picks, four second round picks, four third round picks, and a fifth round pick in three years. Not to mention the five young players who were first round picks, and three who were second rounders
https://wgr550.radio.com/...ll-paying-sins-tim-murray



“Thanks for your service GMTM”


Don’t read this unless u wanna be even more depressed

Probably this lol
Cool story bro

I believe you are a fat German-American pile of crap with a dumb mustache and an ugly family but I don't come in here every day telling you how fat and useless your gene pool is. God, I cannot wait for your generation to finally die and stop ruining my country.
- BeadyEyedDouche
- Slapjackzack

If this is what got him it wasn’t me.

I don’t flag anybody. Its a Douche move under any circumstance.

Colin White would have to, but oh wait that 1st rnd pick was traded for Robin Lehner
- Buff36

5 of our previous 9 picks were centers, including Jack and Sam. 8 of 10 were forwards. Chances are we are not drafting another center there. That easily could have been Noah Juulson, who was ranked 22nd overall prospect by central scouting.

Despite the fact he was tanking for half of his tenure, Murray traded away two first round picks, four second round picks, four third round picks, and a fifth round pick in three years. Not to mention the five young players who were first round picks, and three who were second rounders
https://wgr550.radio.com/...ll-paying-sins-tim-murray



“Thanks for your service GMTM”


Don’t read this unless u wanna be even more depressed
- jdfitz77

Wonder where the team would be if Regier got to use the assets he compiled with an owner willing to spend.

I sincerely thank everyone involved in making this the most interesting back reading I have ever had the pleasure to experience. It was highly entertaining and outstanding throughout.

A few thoughts:

I am all for playing a goon tomorrow night and every night after for the rest of this season. What are we really missing out on with whoever he replaces on the roster? Is Erod really going to be the difference in beating them on the scoreboard? At least it makes it entertaining and if there’s just a 1% chance he bloodies someone’s face on TB it is well worth it to me.

The argument defending Botts that the plethora of underperforming wingers we have weren’t expected to underperform is garbage. They have crap centers to play with! Their performances in previous years were with NHL caliber centers. How can you blame them?

Banking on draft picks outside of the top 5 to fix your future roster is unrealistic. There’s no reliable expectation of them developing into solid starters who can fill major roles like 2C. If this is what we are down to we are really in trouble. We are literally in a position where we have to hope that all our promising prospects turn into stars in order to ever be a contender.

The only defense of Botts IMO is that he has a dimwit meddling owner to deal with. Which is unfortunate. It seems this is something that every GM who comes here will have to endure. That aside, he has come into the last two seasons with flawed rosters. He built a soft team. He carried ten NHL caliber defenseman with obvious needs at center. He preached prospect development but totally ignored this with Mitts. There’s a lot of problems with the job he has done.

To argue that he has been trying to make a trade to defend him isn’t acceptable. “Do, or do not. There is no try.”

This is a cutthroat and highly competitive business. Either make a team that can make the playoffs or get the hell out. I am so sick of excuses. I am not asking for a cup contender. I am begging for a team worth watching in the second half of the season.

At this point there is no saving the season. I hate to say it but the smart move is to be a seller at the deadline and hope for lottery luck and a high draft position, again. The question is, do you trust Botts to put together a roster that can make the playoffs next year? I don’t.

Despite the fact he was tanking for half of his tenure, Murray traded away two first round picks, four second round picks, four third round picks, and a fifth round pick in three years. Not to mention the five young players who were first round picks, and three who were second rounders
https://wgr550.radio.com/...ll-paying-sins-tim-murray



“Thanks for your service GMTM”
- jdfitz77

Yeah pretty wild, and some of the players that were still around when those picks took place. I know not every pick would have turned into that player, but Boesner, Point, Konecky, Debricant, Cernak, White were all still there when those picks were used. If Murray would have just slowed down a little bit this team would be in a hell of alot better shape.

From the article Homie posted earlier

https://novacapsfans.com/...ansion-franchise-in-2021/


Buffalo Sabres

Protected: C Casey Mittelstadt, C Jack Eichel, F Sam Reinhart, F Jeff Skinner (NMC), D Rasmus Ristolainen, D Rasmus Dahlin, D Brendan Montour, D Henri Jokiharju, G Linus Ullmark

Seattle selects: D Colin Miller


Notable guys left unprotected:
Tage, Pilut, Asplund, McCabe, Larsson, Girgs, Okposo


*if I’m Seattle,
I’d probably take one of the young guys

Wonder where the team would be if Regier got to use the assets he compiled with an owner willing to spend.
- adambuffalo

He did a pretty great job selling off assets
Even a horrible drafter would’ve hit on some guys

5 of our previous 9 picks were centers, including Jack and Sam. 8 of 10 were forwards. Chances are we are not drafting another center there. That easily could have been Noah Juulson, who was ranked 22nd overall prospect by central scouting.
- adambuffalo

Could be, just saying we never got a chance to see who would have been there

I sincerely thank everyone involved in making this the most interesting back reading I have ever had the pleasure to experience. It was highly entertaining and outstanding throughout.

A few thoughts:

I am all for playing a goon tomorrow night and every night after for the rest of this season. What are we really missing out on with whoever he replaces on the roster? Is Erod really going to be the difference in beating them on the scoreboard? At least it makes it entertaining and if there’s just a 1% chance he bloodies someone’s face on TB it is well worth it to me.

The argument defending Botts that the plethora of underperforming wingers we have weren’t expected to underperform is garbage. They have crap centers to play with! Their performances in previous years were with NHL caliber centers. How can you blame them?

Banking on draft picks outside of the top 5 to fix your future roster is unrealistic. There’s no reliable expectation of them developing into solid starters who can fill major roles like 2C. If this is what we are down to we are really in trouble. We are literally in a position where we have to hope that all our promising prospects turn into stars in order to ever be a contender.

The only defense of Botts IMO is that he has a dimwit meddling owner to deal with. Which is unfortunate. It seems this is something that every GM who comes here will have to endure. That aside, he has come into the last two seasons with flawed rosters. He built a soft team. He carried ten NHL caliber defenseman with obvious needs at center. He preached prospect development but totally ignored this with Mitts. There’s a lot of problems with the job he has done.

To argue that he has been trying to make a trade to defend him isn’t acceptable. “Do, or do not. There is no try.”

This is a cutthroat and highly competitive business. Either make a team that can make the playoffs or get the hell out. I am so sick of excuses. I am not asking for a cup contender. I am begging for a team worth watching in the second half of the season.

At this point there is no saving the season. I hate to say it but the smart move is to be a seller at the deadline and hope for lottery luck and a high draft position, again. The question is, do you trust Botts to put together a roster that can make the playoffs next year? I don’t.
- Beethoven

Everybody says this, but he had a big hand in putting together 2 cup teams in Pittsburgh.

He did a pretty great job selling off assets
Even a horrible drafter would’ve hit on some guys
- jdfitz77

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFwgC8RcSsY

Everybody says this, but he had a big hand in putting together 2 cup teams in Pittsburgh.
- Buff36

crosby and malkin

Everybody says this, but he had a big hand in putting together 2 cup teams in Pittsburgh.
- Buff36

Look at the cores of most teams and tell me how much of them were homegrown and drafted by their respective teams ?

Botts’ method is the right method, now if he doesn’t hit on the picks then that’s on him.

Yeah pretty wild, and some of the players that were still around when those picks took place. I know not every pick would have turned into that player, but Boesner, Point, Konecky, Debricant, Cernak, White were all still there when those picks were used. If Murray would have just slowed down a little bit this team would be in a hell of alot better shape.
- Buff36

I was a big supporter of bringing in Kane and O’Reilly
The biggest problem with GMTM was that he brought in a psycho for goalie
And EVERY move he made with the defense backfired

We’re easily a playoff team right now if we still have EK9 and ROR


All that said...
If whoever the GM was just stayed the course, and drafted those picks...
Even if he did poorly he’d have hit on some
And we’d be in pretty good shape I’d think

Look at the cores of most teams and tell me how much of them were homegrown and drafted by their respective teams ?

Botts’ method is the right method, now if he doesn’t hit on the picks then that’s on him.
- Pegullaville

I disagree. You need to be flexible and work every angle available to you. Drafting and developing is important, but so is free agency and trades. If you stubbornly decide a path and don’t react to other factors you are doing it wrong.

“Forcing” anything in sports and life isn’t optimal. It may work sometimes, but it isn’t guaranteed and you might be missing out on better options.

- adambuffalo

Bogosian, Okposo & a conditional 1st should get us quite the stud

I disagree. You need to be flexible and work every angle available to you. Drafting and developing is important, but so is free agency and trades. If you stubbornly decide a path and don’t react to other factors you are doing it wrong.

“Forcing” anything in sports and life isn’t optimal. It may work sometimes, but it isn’t guaranteed and you might be missing out on better options.
- Beethoven

You can’t overspend assets either though to acquire players (cap space in the case of free agents)

Wonder where the team would be if Regier got to use the assets he compiled with an owner willing to spend.
- adambuffalo

Darcy was a terrible drafter, I'd hate to see how he would have missed on so many of those picks. He was done, finished after all those years. If he had anything to offer as a GM he would have got offered another job as a GM. Obviously, he wasn't that highly thought of around the league.

I was a big supporter of bringing in Kane and O’Reilly
The biggest problem with GMTM was that he brought in a psycho for goalie
And EVERY move he made with the defense backfired

We’re easily a playoff team right now if we still have EK9 and ROR


All that said...
If whoever the GM was just stayed the course, and drafted those picks...
Even if he did poorly he’d have hit on some
And we’d be in pretty good shape I’d think
- jdfitz77

👌 GMTM didn’t trade a Conn Smythe Selke winner for Super Sniper Tage Thompson. Way to blow Botts! You created this disaster. Hey thanks for turning down two 1sts for Kane so you could get absolutely nothing for him instead. What a moron. Goes out and gets a goon to get even with Tampa and wasn’t smart enough to think Tampa would too. Running scared! Lol! 👌 again. What an idiot. You can’t make this poop up. Good thing he likes the toughness of his team.

You can’t overspend assets either though to acquire players (cap space in the case of free agents)
- Pegullaville

Agreed. But there may be a time to do exactly that. When you have a team with a solid core that is close to contending I would argue it is a good time to cash in some futures for another piece that might get you over the top.

The problem with TM was that he shot his load way too early. He never waited for the high draft picks to develop. He just cashed in most of our assets to see what he could make immediately. It was arrogant and unnecessarily risky. And we will be paying the price for years more.

I disagree. You need to be flexible and work every angle available to you. Drafting and developing is important, but so is free agency and trades. If you stubbornly decide a path and don’t react to other factors you are doing it wrong.

“Forcing” anything in sports and life isn’t optimal. It may work sometimes, but it isn’t guaranteed and you might be missing out on better options.
- Beethoven

True in some aspects, FA should be used to fill a hole here and there, and maybe get that big piece missing depending on Cap restraints, drafting should be used to build a team and for depth.

👌 GMTM didn’t trade a Conn Smythe Selke winner for Super Sniper Tage Thompson.
- Hatboro_Swords

Neither did Botts.