Babcock is a fraud. Congrats for winning gold with Team Canada and riding the two best 200 foot centres of their decade in Datsyuk and Zetterberg to one cup with the best defenceman of all time and one of the best wingers of that decade in Hossa.

The Red Wings should have won 4. Guy got out coached by Bylsma for frank sakes.

Keefe is 12-4 with a roster that was crashing and burning under Babcock
- Pegullaville

agreed


but throw the money to try to land a trotz or quen


I mean having housley or kruger behind the bench, is not a reason to not try to upgrade the head coach

How long till your next ban Beady?
- jdfitz77

my guess is 5 more back and forths with you should get it done

They won’t, because our schedule is really easy in Late jan/feb and the Sabres aren’t actually that bad.
- sbroads24

but we might be eliminated by then

Fitz, I said 4 times now:

Soderberg instead of Vesey and Miller.

Buyout Sobotka and use that money for Haula.

Never, ever, not even once did I say Soderberg instead of Mojo
- jcragcrumple

And I’ve fully explained that Miller was traded for bc he didn’t know he could get Jokiharju
YOU AGREED

Soderberg has an NTC and u don’t even know if he’d accept a trade here
And that’s besides the argument of whether or not him at 34yrs old and double the Cap hit was a better idea than a 26yr old Vesey who cost half as much

Haula is a decent 3rd liner who isn’t the answer to our 2C problem, and was coming off a year long injury

Your ideas just don’t cut it

Did Botts turn down a reasonable trade for Kadri?
If so... then you’ve got something
Other than that... pretty flimsy arguments at best

That link proved my point. Elite defence wins. If you want to give Brady credit fine, I guess Brees, Manning, and Rodgers’ fault they aren’t handed a top 8 defence every year.
- Pegullaville

Peyton had points defense ranks of 7, 2, 1, 7, 8, and went a combined 2-5 in the playoffs those years, both wins coming the year they lost to the Saints. The year he won in Indy he had the 23rd ranked points defense. And they had the 2nd ranked points offense. I'd imagine he profusely thanks Rex Grossman.

Babcock is a fraud. Congrats for winning gold with Team Canada and riding the two best 200 foot centres of their decade in Datsyuk and Zetterberg to one cup with the best defenceman of all time and one of the best wingers of that decade in Hossa.

The Red Wings should have won 4. Guy got out coached by Bylsma for frank sakes.

Keefe is 12-4 with a roster that was crashing and burning under Babcock
- Pegullaville

Babcock = Bylsma handed a stacked team and won the Cup. Never won again.

same guys that said risto was getting moved, right?
- homiedclown

I believe that said Risto was available,
not that he WOULD be moved

And u didn’t answer my question...

didn’t u tell us all that Botts was trying to trade for a top6 guy & a bottom6 guy?

I'm not convinced this wasn't the best course of action after we landed him... Especially at this rate.

If we miss the playoffs by a large margin this season and halfway through next are in the same position, you absolutely consider what's best for the franchise...
- U Sir Name

Players of Eichel's caliber, aside from freak injuries of course, stay very productive well into their 30's.

And I’ve fully explained that Miller was traded for bc he didn’t know he could get Jokiharju
YOU AGREED

Soderberg has an NTC and u don’t even know if he’d accept a trade here
And that’s besides the argument of whether or not him at 34yrs old and double the Cap hit was a better idea than a 26yr old Vesey who cost half as much

Haula is a decent 3rd liner who isn’t the answer to our 2C problem, and was coming off a year long injury

Your ideas just don’t cut it

Did Botts turn down a reasonable trade for Kadri?
If so... then you’ve got something
Other than that... pretty flimsy arguments at best
- jdfitz77

Even if you want to poke holes in everything else, which I dont agree with, the correct move was to get Haula which could have been accomplished easily and paid for numerous ways, and would have allowed Mittelstadt to start in the minors. JB (frank)ed up. Pretty badly and in numerous ways. Repeatedly

Players of Eichel's caliber, aside from freak injuries of course, stay very productive well into their 30's.
- Wetbandit1

This is literally year one of Eichel’s dominance on the league. We wasted this year, and most likely last year. However, if Cozens and this years pick become fixtures on the big club then how bad could it really be ?

if money is no object


and the highest paid coach gets 5 mil a year


you offer him 10 mil a year


double what the leafs give him



if money is no object
- homiedclown

Sabres made the best offer
Babcock was going to accept
Wife said no, she wanted to live in Toronto

Had nothing to do with $$$
It was a done deal till the wife had her say

Come on man

Soderberg is on pace for 22+24 at the center position

Haula is on pace for 30+15

Your blind enthusiasm for the GM is clouding your judgement. He (frank)ed up. That's it
- jcragcrumple

It’s been well explained why it’s more than reasonable that Botts passed on those guys

Captain Hindsight strikes again though

The Bills have the 2nd ranked defence in the league this year and averaged 18 points per game. That equals 10-6 and playoffs. Craziness.

Brady is a top 10 QB all time, but to say he’s the best because he rode Belicheck is just wrong. They were a match made in heaven.
- Pegullaville

You think Joe Montana and Bill Walsh weren't? And let's be honest '89 was still Walsh's team.

we have been the joke of hockey for 13 years


whats 13 more
- homiedclown

If bringing in guys with experience is what matters,
Why didn’t Scottie Bowman win a Cup here?

You’re over generalizing Homie

It’s been well explained why it’s more than reasonable that Botts passed on those guys

Captain Hindsight strikes again though
- jdfitz77

I'm captain hindsight? I called all this bullpoop in June, and then July, and then August and then September. I knew this would happen

my guess is 5 more back and forths with you should get it done
- homiedclown

The funniest thing to me is that I’m not even the guy who blows him in most of the time

Even if you want to poke holes in everything else, which I dont agree with, the correct move was to get Haula which could have been accomplished easily and paid for numerous ways, and would have allowed Mittelstadt to start in the minors. JB (frank)ed up. Pretty badly and in numerous ways. Repeatedly
- jcragcrumple

Botts had his sites set on a better top6 guy
Not a career 3rd liner coming off major injury

Again... easy to see why he passed

I'm captain hindsight? I called all this bullpoop in June, and then July, and then August and then September. I knew this would happen
- jcragcrumple

If only you'd listen to reason!

https://wgr550.radio.com/...ll-paying-sins-tim-murray
A little refresher of why we have no depth and stopgaps had to be brought in.

I'm captain hindsight? I called all this bullpoop in June, and then July, and then August and then September. I knew this would happen
- jcragcrumple

True... you’ve been b!tching since well before July1

It’s hindsight that u say we should’ve got players who are doing decent now,
but it was easy to see why they were passed on this past summer

Babcock = Bylsma handed a stacked team and won the Cup. Never won again.
- adambuffalo

only one coach has won cups with different teams in the last 60 years



give you a clue, he coached for us

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/opinion/sabres-still-paying-sins-tim-murray
A little refresher of why we have no depth and stopgaps had to be brought in.
- Buff36

^this guy gets it

Sabres made the best offer
Babcock was going to accept
Wife said no, she wanted to live in Toronto

Had nothing to do with $$$
It was a done deal till the wife had her say

Come on man
- jdfitz77

if money is no object

instead of offering 5.2 mil per


offer 10 mil


shake the f@cking tree and drill another well

didn’t u tell us all that Botts was trying to trade for a top6 guy & a bottom6 guy?
- jdfitz77

carter

he said no


we got our bottom 6 guy

True... you’ve been b!tching since well before July1

It’s hindsight that u say we should’ve got players who are doing decent now,
but it was easy to see why they were passed on this past summer
- jdfitz77

No, it's really not. If I, an idiot on the internet, saw it, then surely the guy paid handsomely to know these things should have done something- anything- about it