Why complain about Botterill 50 times a day for months about trading a defenseman for a forward, then bits basically teades scandella for frolic.

And you wish they kept the pick now?

You just like to complain.
Or maybe you dont like to complain, but it's your personality and you cnt help it?

This isnt a Stanley cup caliber team.
It's a long term process
You cant see this?
- Boss34

Boss, this just undercut your entire argument.

Why the hell are we trading for an old bottom 6 winger NOW? Yes, if he had done it in August, maybe it would have helped.

Even then, it doesn't address the primary needs of the team. Everything he does is the opposite of common logic. The season is cooked, and we're trading picks for UFAs? Everyone said he would never, ever do that because he's thinking about the future. And then he did it.

Whatever. He's doing an excellent job, carry on. Secret tank, yada yada yada

Boss, this just undercut your entire argument.

Why the hell are we trading for an old bottom 6 winger NOW? Yes, if he had done it in August, maybe it would have helped.

Even then, it doesn't address the primary needs of the team. Everything he does is the opposite of common logic. The season is cooked, and we're trading picks for UFAs? Everyone said he would never, ever do that because he's thinking about the future. And then he did it.

Whatever. He's doing an excellent job, carry on. Secret tank, yada yada yada
- jcragcrumple

The Frolik trade was to get a body in here up front because he needed one. If even Tage Thompson were healthy, I don't think that trade is made. The only other option is Mittlestadt, and he just got sent down, so they're not going to mess with that. This are plenty of criticisms of the job Botterill has done if you want to go down that road. This isn't one of them.

Why spend the assets if you're not trying to win? Why fire the coach last year if you're not trying to win? To me, people are ret conning the season and saying "we were never supposed to be good anyway."

Botterill said the opposite. He said they had to be in the conversation for the playoffs. He thought this team would be better. As for your cap space point:

$33m -

Re-sign:

Olofsson
Montour
Reinhart

Replace or re-sign

Girgs
Larry
Erod
Bogo
Sobotka
Frolik
Sheary
Vesey


That money is gonna go real quick
- jcragcrumple

Not to mention we need to save 7-9 mil per year for Dahlin

True.

I personally hate the "loser point".

Play a 3 on 3 until someone wins.
- Powerslave

4 on 4. 10 min. No score. Call the tie, split the points. I hate the loser point. And I hate 3 on 3. It’s a gimmick like the shootout. Do you ever see 3 on 3 in regulation? It’s not part of the game....

Last season he had 16g 18a all even strength expect for two goals which were short handed. He kills penalties which we need help with. 4 wingers on IR. A 4th round pick, which we got for a UFA defenseman, is not going to make or break the future of the team.
If we traded Scandella for Frolik straight up would you be this upset?
- adambuffalo

No, but I was very happy when I heard it was a 4th.
Then pissing it away in a lost season for a rental with 5/5/10 who played 4th line minutes making $4.6m...all the while he is Cap strapped. He certainly wouldn't be expected to replace Olo or Skinner, that I am hopeful we can all agree on...Girgensons, ok...but he ain't hurt.

The PK sucks because of the system this year.
For the most part, the same players did above average last season in a different system.

Sorry, but this is putting flamboyant pink lipstick on a 2 week old rotting corpus.

I complain but I will be watching Saturday and every other day after and I will still complain.

Lots and lots of mediocre hockey gettin' played by our team. The only thing that keeps me watching and rooting as a fan is the fact that every year only One team wins....everyone else are losers. Last year we finished the same as every single team not based in St. Louis (and fuuck ROR), which is to say, we did not win. TO didn't, Tampa didn't, NYI didn't, Chicago, Pitt, San Jose, Nashville....all losers just like us. This year we will be losers again but it's still fun to watch NHL hockey.

AND, I vote Homie as the next Sabres blogger on Hockeybuzz. Step up to the plate, please, sir.

Why complain about Botterill 50 times a day for months about trading a defenseman for a forward, then botts basically trades scandella for frolic.

And you wish they kept the pick now?

You just like to complain.
Or maybe you dont like to complain, but it's your personality and you can't help it?

This isnt a Stanley cup caliber team.
It's a long term process
You cant see this?
- Boss34

Lol, how does Frolik, a 4th liner at 32 yo fit into the long term here.
Clue: it doesnt.

4 on 4. 10 min. No score. Call the tie, split the points. I hate the loser point. And I hate 3 on 3. It’s a gimmick like the shootout. Do you ever see 3 on 3 in regulation? It’s not part of the game....
- Gr8daygo

My only thing w 3 on 3 is that the games won't go on forever. More ice means more scoring opportunities.

The Frolik trade was to get a body in here up front because he needed one. If even Tage Thompson were healthy, I don't think that trade is made. The only other option is Mittlestadt, and he just got sent down, so they're not going to mess with that. This are plenty of criticisms of the job Botterill has done if you want to go down that road. This isn't one of them.
- buffalofan19

Keep the 4th
Bring up Dea for a cup of coffee of 7 or 8 games.

I complain but I will be watching Saturday and every other day after and I will still complain.
- SABRES 89

What if they win?

Lots and lots of mediocre hockey gettin' played by our team. The only thing that keeps me watching and rooting as a fan is the fact that every year only One team wins....everyone else are losers. Last year we finished the same as every single team not based in St. Louis (and fuuck ROR), which is to say, we did not win. TO didn't, Tampa didn't, NYI didn't, Chicago, Pitt, San Jose, Nashville....all losers just like us. This year we will be losers again but it's still fun to watch NHL hockey.

AND, I vote Homie as the next Sabres blogger on Hockeybuzz. Step up to the plate, please, sir.
- LandlordTom

My vote is something along the lines of blogger of the month.
Let trade guy blog when that is in the forefront
let prospect guy do the prospect stuff when its draft time
Amerk guy and so on

Keep the 4th
Bring up Dea for a cup of coffee of 7 or 8 games.
- IonSabres

People would b!tch about that, too.

This GM can't win with the fans no matter what he does (and yes, he deserves criticism)

At the same time, though, you have to have signs that the process is working. They have Jack Eichel finally living up to his billing as a Hart Trophy caliber player. After that, there isn't much. There are a few individual players having good years (i.e. Olofsson), but nothing that moves the needle.

His criticisms of Botterill are over the top, but it's getting harder and harder to defend the job he is doing by the day.
- buffalofan19

Skinner- via botts trade
Olloffson- handled properly by jbotts
Johannson? - should be better
Asplund- handled properly
Ullmark - protected in expansion draft
Dahlin- slam dunk pick
Joker - top 4 defenseman
Pilut - botts guy, looks good
Miller - looked like a steal early on

If his goal was to win next year, what's the problem?

He was stuck with bogo
Stuck with moulson for 2 years
Stuck with okposo.

Its not that hard to see the future.
Cap space
Mitts
Thompson
Cozens
Borgen

We need a 2c and an upgrade at 1rw. So sam can help skins and Johansson

Keep the 4th
Bring up Dea for a cup of coffee of 7 or 8 games.
- IonSabres

This team is no better or worse either way. It's a non-issue.

I complain but I will be watching Saturday and every other day after and I will still complain.
- SABRES 89

I turned the game on late...somewhere in the 2nd period, watched for 10 minutes, was boring as hell, turned it off.
Heard on GR they mustered 2 shots in the 2nd.

But, Good news, advanced stats say they increased their shooting percentage significantly by Jack scoring on one of them!

What if they win?
- Powerslave

I'm a going to quick for you, i'll be watching regardless I said.

Boss, this just undercut your entire argument.

Why the hell are we trading for an old bottom 6 winger NOW? Yes, if he had done it in August, maybe it would have helped.

Even then, it doesn't address the primary needs of the team. Everything he does is the opposite of common logic. The season is cooked, and we're trading picks for UFAs? Everyone said he would never, ever do that because he's thinking about the future. And then he did it.

Whatever. He's doing an excellent job, carry on. Secret tank, yada yada yada
- jcragcrumple

Frolic is proven to be a better player than scott wilson or your favorite player - goalless erod

That's not a Stanley cup move, but it's what you wanted.
Trade 1 of the zillion defenseman for a forward.

Sabres are trying to win, not tank in my opinion.

Could we possibly use frolic until our forwards are healthy (3 -5 ) weeks. Then trade frolic at the deadline?

That makes alot of sense. Not trading futures tonwin a few more games this season

I turned the game on late...somewhere in the 2nd period, watched for 10 minutes, was boring as hell, turned it off.
Heard on GR they mustered 2 shots in the 2nd.

But, Good news, advanced stats say they increased their shooting percentage significantly by Jack scoring on one of them!
- IonSabres

So ? someone else is suppose to score besides Jack ? the hell you say,

EK says we are in on Hoffman..............i'll just leave it at that.

I'm a going to quick for you, i'll be watching regardless I said.
- SABRES 89

No, you said "and I'll be watching every day after and I'll still complain".

Skinner- via botts trade
Olloffson- handled properly by jbotts
Johannson? - should be better
Asplund- handled properly
Ullmark - protected in expansion draft
Dahlin- slam dunk pick
Joker - top 4 defenseman
Pilut - botts guy, looks good
Miller - looked like a steal early on

If his goal was to win next year, what's the problem?

He was stuck with bogo
Stuck with moulson for 2 years
Stuck with okposo.

Its not that hard to see the future.
Cap space
Mitts
Thompson
Cozens
Borgen

We need a 2c and an upgrade at 1rw. So sam can help skins and Johansson
- Boss34

They've needed that for two years, though. If he had addressed one of those, and I was as optimistic as anyone up until training camp that he would, it would be a different story. However, filling both those holes in one offseason is difficult, no matter how much cap space you have.

I complain but I will be watching Saturday and every other day after and I will still complain.
- SABRES 89

This is a really solid post

You're a true fan.

It's the guys that come in here and post things like:

"I didnt even watch the game "
"I turned it off when...."

People would b!tch about that, too.

This GM can't win with the fans no matter what he does (and yes, he deserves criticism)
- Powerslave

He absolutely put himself in that position.

This is a really solid post

You're a true fan.

It's the guys that come in here and post things like:

"I didnt even watch the game "
"I turned it off when...."
- Boss34

I will say that I have been thinking of cutting cable for a while now. I was going to push it off until the summer, but the Sabres are making me think "why not now?"